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    Post by Yesuurd Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:53 pm

    My char is 170SL Darkwraith,

    Been ganged up 3 times by these full armored guys, wearing my
    shadow armor and crest shield with a lightning estoc.

    I got int there right now and all of them were up on me , I threw some chaos fireballs
    at a sunbro who stood there as if they owned the place them being 3 and me 1.

    Their strategy is to stand there while some other prick comes over and backstabs you,
    so I kept at it and this time I almost got a backstab on the prick guy, started rolling about
    no wood grain just plain rolls, at the end I died but I took with me the sun bro!

    Hahaha suck on that bitches!!!
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:55 pm

    the sunbro's have become a band of treacherous mercenarys of late, is kindof sad, i really like their spokesperson/npc
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    Post by Yesuurd Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:57 pm

    I usually play rpgs and like being honorable and helpfull, been playing rpgs since final fantasy 1 back in the 80's, but I gotta say Darkwraith for life on DKS!!!
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    Post by aceluby Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:58 pm

    sparkly-twinkly-lizard wrote:the sunbro's have become a band of treacherous mercenarys of late, is kindof sad, i really like their spokesperson/npc

    Agreed, they are taking over darkmoons as the cheapest players. I think it's because of the anonymity. I invaded a guy w/ a sunbro, went to send the sunbro a message, but he wasn't available on my players met list.
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:01 pm

    yay ff1, btw i've been having the weirdest luck with invaders of late, the first was a guy who dueled me on the hellkite bridge and used unupgraded weapons though he clearly had superior armor, the next was a #%$#%$ who cast crystal soul spear at me in sens, (shot arrows at him to make him dodge, he fell down a pit:D ) the last was two handing havels shield with a sanctus on his back, all of these were dark wraiths and rather original, first and last guy were my favorites
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    Post by Yesuurd Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:22 pm

    Another thing for you more experienced players, indictment...wtf

    Been indicted 3 times since I started and have never done anything to deserve it,
    also indictment would do what? add me to the book of guilty? cuz I actually live kicking
    darkmoon ass so bring it!
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    Post by The_Tao Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:25 pm

    Yesuurd wrote:
    also indictment would do what? add me to the book of guilty? cuz I actually live kicking
    darkmoon ass so bring it!

    Your wish is our command.
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    Post by Yesuurd Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:33 pm

    gangsta!
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    Post by jjshowal Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:48 pm

    go darkmoon wooo!
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    Post by strangejoy Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:08 pm

    Yup, it's a sad state of affairs with the sunbros. Almost all of the phantom campers are sunbros these days. The kiln and forest sunbros are particularly terrible, because there is virtually no chance that they're actually there to help with a boss; they're there strictly to gangbang other players. They have no humanity on the line, they probably aren't even in human form, and therefore they stand to lose nothing.

    The only way to defeat a sunbro camper is to repeatedly kill hosts. If you just kill the sunbro, he's going to lay down his sign again. He loses maybe two minutes in the process.
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    Post by justwant2play Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:10 pm

    Maybe the Sunbros and Darkmoons can form an alliance and call it: The Cheap-Noob Alliance.
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    Post by Yesuurd Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:19 pm

    I would get bored of it pretty fast, wonder how they manage to keep playing...
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    Post by User Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:23 pm

    Easily the same reason why all Grievers of Online games play

    Its how they like to play. everyone is different in that sense, variety is large (although grievers seem to show no physical variety, but they are part of it nonetheless). Still, this game accepts and homes Grievers. The game wants to make you suffer, no? What better way to do so than to use Humanity itself.
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    Post by Yesuurd Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:33 pm

    Well I accept it and even enjoy it since I wouldn't be having fun without them right now, so I do understand that there is a variety of players as there is a variety of people in the world with different outlooks on life, but I am just saying myself personally would get tired really fast of it.

    Think about it, it's like someone learning to ride a bike but instead 2 guys come and carry you on your bike and you are parading through your neighborhood high fiving them and doing gestures at everyone like you are doing this amazing thing on your own, just to state a metaphor.

    P.S-I actually want to thank the guys at the forest, I not only have learnt a bunch of new stuff and have given my character new direction but I just made 2million off some shmuck
    which gave me some good leveling, thanks!
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    Post by Teh_hapy_octopus Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:52 pm

    they can just resummon...
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:00 pm

    at least dark wraith seem to have a sense of humor when they invade, for me anyway...
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    Post by bending_sinister Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:52 pm

    aceluby wrote:
    sparkly-twinkly-lizard wrote:the sunbro's have become a band of treacherous mercenarys of late, is kindof sad, i really like their spokesperson/npc

    Agreed, they are taking over darkmoons as the cheapest players. I think it's because of the anonymity. I invaded a guy w/ a sunbro, went to send the sunbro a message, but he wasn't available on my players met list.

    Sunbros are by far my most hated covenant. DM's may not bow all the time etc, but at least they come in and try to take you down 1v1 - I can respect that. Sunbros, on the other hand, only PvP if they've been summoned into a camping group where they can get wins in 3v1's. They're absolutely hopeless and outclassed by themselves. Every time I see a 3v1 gang there are two sunbros in the mix...
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    Post by bending_sinister Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:54 pm

    Yesuurd wrote:Another thing for you more experienced players, indictment...wtf

    Been indicted 3 times since I started and have never done anything to deserve it,
    also indictment would do what? add me to the book of guilty? cuz I actually live kicking
    darkmoon *** so bring it!

    Dude I'm a Darkwraith and I indict any invader who I think did a good job and beat me fair and square. It's a compliment from some of us. I want indictments, don't you?
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    Post by Yesuurd Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:01 pm

    bending_sinister wrote:
    Yesuurd wrote:Another thing for you more experienced players, indictment...wtf

    Been indicted 3 times since I started and have never done anything to deserve it,
    also indictment would do what? add me to the book of guilty? cuz I actually live kicking
    darkmoon *** so bring it!

    Dude I'm a Darkwraith and I indict any invader who I think did a good job and beat me fair and square. It's a compliment from some of us. I want indictments, don't you?

    Yes indeed! Indict away!
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    Post by belkaizer Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:08 am

    thats a different way to see indictment. forest most of the time is 2 on 1. sadly theres a sunbro involved. havel armor mask of the mother backfliping dude with a bkga. mind you i do like the bkga and the ring. but seriously all the stuff together needs maybe 50 or more endurance?? im a darkmoon on my lv173 i guess more to use the miracle than for invading and i see those 2 on 1 on anor londo to. but seriously you killed me 2 on 1 and you boast on my face( i dont know if boast is the right word. english is not my first language)
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    Post by Maneater_Mildred Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:15 am

    Not all sunbro's are bad just because some people are lame. same as every other covanant, lame people will be lame.
    Over half my toons are sunbro and they pvp in these ways:
    1. When helping a noob thru a lvl i help vs mobs abit, but kill any invader with no mercy.
    2. As host 1v1 (me in body vs invader)
    3. As host with a phantom 1v1(i watch and cheer, then heal my guy after or fight invader myself or 2v2(not enuff of this sadly)

    TL;DR all covanats have bad apples.
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    Post by Whknight Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:26 am

    I feel Mildred has it on the spot. I myself am Sunbro and right now I'm just enjoying beating down griefers in the Burg/Parish who are unlucky enough to invade. Honest to god, never invaded someone, I just perfer to be kind to people.

    It sucks but there are ways to deal with it.
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    Post by Yesuurd Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:55 am

    good to know there are sunbros like you, thanks for pointing it out.I actually have always thought that to be true, I have seen some sunbros with honor, the bad thing is how the majority of the ones I have had the opportunity to pvp against are doing bad stuff.

    It must be sad for you guys also being in that covenant.
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    Post by Whknight Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:02 am

    If I could use sunlight spear without being in it, I'd possible bail out, but when you imagine the look on someones face when they take it to the chest, go flying back, and eat 700 damage? It's just priceless ><
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    Post by Robotech Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:22 am

    Maneater_Mildred wrote:Not all sunbro's are bad just because some people are lame. same as every other covanant, lame people will be lame.
    Over half my toons are sunbro and they pvp in these ways:
    1. When helping a noob thru a lvl i help vs mobs abit, but kill any invader with no mercy.
    2. As host 1v1 (me in body vs invader)
    3. As host with a phantom 1v1(i watch and cheer, then heal my guy after or fight invader myself or 2v2(not enuff of this sadly)

    TL;DR all covanats have bad apples.

    I could not agree with you more. Most of the sunbro hate posts in this thread are completely random not to say plain childish, because they are only based on isolated random cases.

    You can not judge a covenent only by its bad representatives. I have a ton of **** to say about darkwraiths as well, this does not mean that all darkraiths are not playing fair or doing something bad.

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