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    Do you use the Effigy Shield?

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    Post by Rifter7 Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:15 pm

    i was trying to find a shield that could just patch sunlight blade and magic.. and i stumbled upon this in my box of legitimately gotten means. its magic is pretty poor, but its got 70 fire.

    http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Effigy+Shield

    holy c***.

    i don't have the faith on any of my builds to use it, but is that thing awesome? has anyone here used it?
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    Post by RANT Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:20 pm

    i use it all the time and its pretty awesome, make sure you make it fire, it get i think 88 fire res, maybe more. it looks awesome and has awesome res, what more do you want? the only thing that really pisses me off is that its a small shield but has a reg parry, poo.
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    Post by Rifter7 Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:25 pm

    says 84 on the wiki.. that's lethal.

    damn the faith requirement tho. I DON'T BELIEVE IN YOU UMBASA! lol.
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    Post by RANT Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:48 pm

    i think its worth it if youre going for a little faith(18) which gets you some really useful spells for both pve and pvp. its specially good if youre going for a coop build.
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    Post by Ghadis_God Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:53 am

    I don't use it because I never have a reason to block pure lightning damage. Most lighting attacks you can either see coming from a mile away, or in the case of Lightning weapons and SLB, aren't the kind of thing you want to block with 90 Physical resistance and poor stability anyway. For looks it's awesome though, and if you're only going to parry, why the heck not?
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    Post by n0rain Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:20 am

    Yes I do, but I did not realize it was this boss Hurrah
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    Post by Rifter7 Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:25 am

    the stability isn't that bad... and you get 90-90, a slb buffed weapon is going to hit a lot less harder if you do end up blocking their attack.

    not to mention you're left with your defenses, which would probably be stacked towards lightning/magic resist in the arenas after your first loss/win/whatever.
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    Post by WyrmHero Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:45 am

    I love the lore behind the shield, and it's great for Faith builds, BUT. I rarely use it because I don't use shields unless my weapons relies on its one handed attacks. For example, the shield is useless if I'm using a scythe, but it can be useful if I'm using a Server. For weapons that use the shield + R1 such as the Hand Axe and katanas it would be useful too.
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    Post by ICEFANG Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:48 am

    I think the Dark Hand is overall better, but this one is pretty cool overall.
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    Post by WyrmHero Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:55 am

    Dark Hand sucks for blocking melee attacks though, it's better if you use it for parrying.
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    Post by n0rain Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:56 am

    So effigy/Leo/poker= op?
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    Post by ICEFANG Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:05 am

    Yeah but when you're looking at resistances, I think the 40 magic is major enough to 80 to justify the other percents. Plus Dark Hand requires no upgrades and it weighs much less.

    Ironically, I hate both shields.
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    Post by kramage Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:54 pm

    effigy is mediocre at best, probably From's way of nerfing divine weapons since DS but the only time i found it of use was when I invaded a game with a host who summoned solaire npc. He kept spamming his lightning bolts and it only did 20-25 dmg on block lol.

    On a separate note is there a thread showing block cancel framerates? I saw your data rifter and its really good, thanks for doing that. I just feel that since mid-rolls are going to be a major influence in post-dlc canceling the few frames at the end of your rolls may be a game changer.
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    Post by Rifter7 Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:47 pm

    the only animation cancels i know of are toggling weapons out of a stun. the rest of the animations automatically cancel with any input... even walking.

    with few exceptions to things toggling weapons, then theres frames in an animation that are uninterpretable but after that its the same, simply moving around or whatever cancels it.

    am i misunderstanding something?
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    Post by kramage Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:05 pm

    yeah I know of "toggling" but I meant raising your shield after a roll. Ewgf's youtube vids seems to shed some light on that during his block tutorials but all his rolls were fast. I play mid-roll toons to get a feel for playing when the dlc comes out and I've noticed that raising my shield cuts off some frames at the end. Its more noticeable when fat rolling. I was just wondering if there was some numbers floating around since google seems to hate me atm.
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    Post by Rifter7 Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:43 am

    are u sure hes not doing that to use regular r1's out of rolls? any animation should cancel it when it's able too.

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