A discussion about TWoP

TWoP abuse 1
TWoP abuse 2
TWoP abuse 3

A very rarely discussed move that was overpower before then, according to people, nerfed to obsolete-ism. Not much more to say. Want to hear your opinions about it. What do you think?

Like TWoP + Pursuers??? It would be fun at first but damn so OP I would feel bad for being so cheap.

I think TWoP is acceptable in every situation except for ganking. I don't care if I invade a 3v1 and they only try to chain BS me. But when they whip out TWoP when it's a 2/3v1 it really really gets to me.

Its lucky it only lasts a few seconds but those combinations... IDK seem almost like exploiting.... When will Dark Magic be nerfed.........

Are you asking which one would be better? #1 definitely. Except I wouldn't use a cat which halves my castings and I wouldn't bother with CMW, I would just attune another Dark Bead.

No, I'm asking what you think about TWoP in PVP. The builds are merely showing the abusive variety it has.

I think I don't see it enough to be a problem, and when I do see it I can usually avoid it. Sometimes I don't and that can get me in trouble but other times it really doesn't so I guess it's sort of a wash.

It certainly has the potential to be a problem but in the grand scheme of things I think it's a fairly benign threat. Of course, I'm just speaking from my experience.

Is it?? With dark bead attatched?? We are talking about a mage with poise, 1 hit ko ability that you can not outrun.....



Seems like a great build. Obviously VOS would save you but do a lot of players carry this spell??

TWOP is perfectly fine evne in 3v1s. the only exception imo is if you are casting it as the invader is spawning so they have no chance to avoid it.

Glutebrah wrote:TWOP is perfectly fine evne in 3v1s. the only exception imo is if you are casting it as the invader is spawning so they have no chance to avoid it.

That's what I meant. If I'm already fighting them and they cast it then whatever, but at least give me some kind of chance.

Spawn Camping is when it is truly only unavoidable. Other than that while it is really powerful, there are ways to deal with it. It requires a lot more skill to defeat it though than to use it I'll say.

TWoP + dead angling with WotG is the most broken tactic in dark souls. I don't think it's even avoidble (at least not in small places like the undead burg or oolacile township).

Truth be told, you can block it by counter deadangling, but yeah, the fact you can't poise through WotG is t he important part.