Glyphblade's All Secret's Revealed (Major Spoilers)

glyphblade glyphblade Nov 10, 2011 2:43 pm
k - in the interests of all the different explorations I have done, all the different playthroughs.. and after wading through rumours and heresay..

I say we compile a list of all known, supposed, found and or disproved Rumours, Secrets and Myths...

I am convinced there is something unique or special in the game that we haven't discovered yet.. either due to the Patch 1.04 / 1.05 fixing Solaires behavior in new game +, the mystery of the pendant also likely tied to new game +, and that the game designer himself has said there are secrets that will not likely be revealed until numerous plathroughs..

So -

1: The Pendant. I did numerous tests, no covenant run, Priscilla with high humanity, no covenant with pendants.. all the various combinations.. and no change within the game.

Rhea has the pendant and if she lives, no corpse in the parish, and she is gone , you fight her in one fo the cells in the dukes archives.. which seems odd.. unless she is bringing the pendant to the duke...?

2: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarkSouls

Mentions in this link 2 different characters, Patches and Guyra being reappearing characters... and possibly that Guyra is a secret boss, or a secret area in the Duke's Archives...

3 - the area where the first armoured boar is... in the undead parish, take the underground route with the first hollowed undead who is down a hallway... the one that runs from you while two other wait in the corners to ambush you..

In that hallway is a long line of what seems to be a black scratch / blood smear or something.. it runs the length of the hallway it is raised off the ground.. and I swear it appeared in my game on new game +++.. wasn't there before hand..

4 - secrets I have found personally.. If you drop either the ring of Astorias or the Charred orange ring in the bird's nest, the drops will be accepted as if to trade, upon reloading.. there will be nothing in the nest but they can both be found in the opened chest in firelink shrine. Whis is now closed and lootable.

5 - back to Guyra again -

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/606312-/60453895
on the soundtrack, there is a track listed as Guyra or ancient dragon..

5 - a japanese player says a fully upgraded weapon can break down a specific wall.. here is all the area's I have found..

There is in the bottom of the undead burg, with the hollow thieves a boarded up doorway, with a path behind it.. that you can't get into..

where you fight the centipede demon is a huge doorway, just like the lordvessel area, stone, sealed, same kinda crack running up the middle.. you cannot interact with it.. like the chaos covenant shortcut.. but it has no way of opening it..

In blightown, in the middle level where the fire spitting dogs are, and the fire keeper soul is.. in the back and left of the ladder up is a door / barricade of some sorts with a shaft going down... it stands out and looks out of place.. but also cannot be interacted with..

In the depths, there is a walkway above the giant rat but no forseeable way to get into it..

Still working out more secrets, if not to debunk any myths or confirm them.. if anyone has any please contribute here and we can combine everything we know to get to the bottom of this.. once and for all..

Hidden doors would aslo be nice to get a list of..
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joecamel71 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
joecamel71 Nov 10, 2011 5:28 pm
The walkway above the gaint rat is acessed via a chute behind the undead butchers earlier in the level
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SlakeMoth re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
SlakeMoth Nov 10, 2011 5:41 pm
Agreed glyphstone. I found that walkway too. Can't remember what was on the body though.
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HakePT re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
HakePT Nov 10, 2011 5:51 pm
The body has the spider shield.

Also in blightown near the bonfire there is a chest in a area with a chest holding a dragon scale. The area looks like some kind of arena, i was actually expecting a trap/invasion at that point. Maybe there is some secret there too?

Also in Sens Fortress on the bride that connects to the merchant there is a walkway with a balder undead knight and a wall at the end. It looks like a illusory wall but i've never found a way to open it.

The ancient dragon music is played in the stone dragon area, where you join the dragon covenant.
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Versagen re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Versagen Nov 10, 2011 6:03 pm
Yeah the blighttown area is weird. I've seen messages that said "be wary of trap" in the room too, but nothing ever happens.
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Kaiseric re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Kaiseric Nov 10, 2011 6:13 pm
glyphstone, for those "secret" doors you've mentioned, are you saying that those can be broken down with a fully upgraded weapon? or you're just listing some possibilities?
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ublug re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
ublug Nov 10, 2011 6:46 pm
More theories:

The Covenant of Artorias and the Orange Charred Ring appear in the chest after dropping them anywhere, and has nothing to do with snuggly. They can both break the game if they are lost, so they reappear in the chest.

But can you drop them before killing Gwyn, so they'll reappear in the chest in NG+?
Petrus's armor is not found in-game, but could there be any way to get it?
The two Pisacas, in Duke's Archives, who drop the Princess Guard miracles acts like npcs. They will not attack you, but if you attack them they'll stop crying and move away from you, even after visiting a bonfire.

Is there any way to get the miracles without killing them?
Hollow Big Hat in Duke's Archives. The first time I fought him I'm pretty sure he was proper hollow (I remember I said 'a twig with a hat' to myself), but in NG+ he was human. Why?
One of the chests in Gwyndolin's chamber is empty, this is the only empty chest in the game? Could there be any way to unlock something to appear in the chest?
Alternate playthrough/Possible third ending:

Playing through the entire game without lighting any of the bonfires, then kill the three fire-keepers before killing gwyn. This will leave the whole of Lordran unkindled, and choosing the dark lord ending should extinguish every trace of fire (apart from the lordvessel).

It would at least make it a more challenging playthrough
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Scudman_Slayer re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Scudman_Slayer Nov 10, 2011 6:47 pm
i found a hidden wall on new londo ruins on the darkwraiths section its right before the bulding you have to go through to get to the fog gate to the 4 kings
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 10, 2011 6:51 pm
I was on many many sites, preparetodie.com, froms sites, and the other wiki.. caught a post, which I can't find of someone saying a japanese player recently said a fully upgraded weapon can break down certain walls..

The pathway I am talking about in the giant rats lair is not the one with the spider shield.. the landing dropped in from the butcher...

it is the pathway that runs across it.. above the higher landing ...

It is a walled and gated pathway that I have not been able to find how to reach in the depths..

yea, the Balder knight guarding the dead end bridge to the tower base.. going to revisit that area again.. There is a whole lot more to Sen's you can see from that bridge.. a huge set of stairs behind the iron golem and his big pile of balls..

The message be wary of trap was likely put there by a player.. offline there are no message using seek guidance as of yet...?

All the secret door area's I listed about smashing with a weapon.... meaning not secret, but sealed.. perhaps a better way to say it.. Sealed doors, I have not been able to break down yet.. as in they still remain possible, yet to be opened..

List of hidden doors, illusionary walls:

1 - Quelaggs domain to the Daughter of Chaos Covenant (kellogs Domain)

2a- blightown, large tree ramp by the 3 leaches, at the dead end inside, leads to a chest

2b - blightown, behinds the chest above, leads to the great hollow

3 - In the catacombs, 2nd bonfire stairs with the trapped Statue

4 - Tomb of Giants, between the second and third slide, the wall can be hit revealing an alcove with a ladder, takes you to the area patches kicks you in.. without being kicked..

5 - Darkroot Garden, raised wall beside the Sealed door - reveales the bonfire.

6 - Sen's Fortress, from the stairs up from the titanite demon party, hitting the wall at the top of that landing

7 - Anor Londo - bonfire level after the archers, room with the fireplace leads to Havels Armoury

8 - New Londo Ruins, after draining, in the area with the darkwraiths, an archway with drop off cliffs / water on either side, you can the walkway from the side... leads to a darkwraith and a chest


9 - Lost Izalith - building surrounded by lava dino's / flaming dragon asses.. need the charred orange ring to reach.. in that building on the left wall as you approach, hitting the wall reveals a Bonfire.

It seems every boss area / unique area has a hidden/ illusionary wall within it somewhere..

so has anyone found a hidden door in:

9 - Duke's Archives - ?

10 - Depths ?

can someone who is in an earlier game or possible first playthrough check this area

the area where the first armoured boar is... in the undead parish, take the underground route with the first hollowed undead who is down a hallway... the one that runs from you while two other wait in the corners to ambush you..

In that hallway is a long line of what seems to be a black scratch / blood smear or something.. it runs the length of the hallway it is raised off the ground..

and I swear it appeared in my game on new game +++.. wasn't there before hand, can anyone see if it's there in a standard game? I might have seen it but forgot..
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somebody_else re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
somebody_else Nov 10, 2011 6:58 pm
@Scudman
the one with chest and chunk inside? or is there another one
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 10, 2011 7:03 pm
on my last playthrough I dropped the charred orange ring, noticed the firelink chest was closed and could be looted.. jumped in the hole..killed Gwynn, started new game +++ and the chest was empty on my return

I am trying it with Artorias ring tonight..


Big hat was hollow and blue on standard... new game ++++ he was human and looked weird..

possibly a glitch or maybe he gets to become seath..

The 2 crying Pisaca, they've always struck me as strange, and NPC like, are they crying because they know the truth.. or because we likely killed everyone in Anor Londo by that point..

The eggheaded Hollow in the sewers of the painted world, killing him nets you a Pyro Spell.. but he is not aggro to you..

( I have gone to him full egg head and not been able to interact with im either )


The fire keeper in firelink can be revived by the player, but not killed by us.. I did everything to her.. and she still lived..

I have not tried to kill her before Lautrec does though...


I like the idea of the bonfires.. might have to try that.. if nothing else

now thats a challenge.. a no bonfire run...

u have firelink til the keeper dies, anor londo til you kill that keeper and chaos covenant til you kill her..

anyways.. more yet to come I am sure
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ublug re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
ublug Nov 10, 2011 7:04 pm
Isn't the walled pathway above the big rat just the slime hallway outside the bonfire?
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somebody_else re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
somebody_else Nov 10, 2011 7:06 pm
@glyphstone
that bloody line shows just nicely in my NG. went to check since my char was at blacksmith anyway
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ublug re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
ublug Nov 10, 2011 7:11 pm
The pisacas are also former maidens turned pisacas from seath's experiments, by the description of the giant cell key.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 10, 2011 7:17 pm
was the bloody line there in the first playthrough.. and also.. it seems like it's not fully part of the enviornment.. maybe it's a graphic glitch.. it seems raised, or oddly out of place..

I'm check the slime hallway again..

soo many things too do.. lol
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SirTimbo re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
SirTimbo Nov 10, 2011 7:19 pm
about the blight town arena area, I was invaded by a dragon covenant there without touching a dragon invasion symbol (it was not mandred) after looting the chest for the dragon scale (invader also dropped one). Have no idea if server glitched or what not.

Also discovered that the Dark hand grab does not work on the blacksmiths and 2 attempts make them hostile.

Also in the undead burg right before the tower on the steps with the rolling barrel, you can gently fall off the side onto a large ledge area with no way out, don't know what the purpose of that area is, but can see it exploiting the mobs early on and then use a homeward bone for an easy knight kill.

Discovered that the first hydra has a drop off point in front but the ground actually curves around, making it possible to kill the hydra without a range weapon or rusted ring early on as long as you have a reach weapon like a halberd or scythe.

A little known path, once you kill havel and the hydra you can get to sif without fighting anything or passing through the forest cov area if you want to avoid getting invaded by taking the ladder from the lake area.

Some trees in the game are attackable and give XP. Have seen no use for them or seen them ever attack anyone, anyone knows what they're their for?

Mixing ring of fog and slumbering dragoncrest ring, or hidden body and hush spells allow you to sneak up on everything. Mixing hidden body and ring of fog makes you undetectable by mobs unless you're right in front of them in swing range. Have not attempted that combo on bosses making stealth classes a bit more possible.
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SirTimbo re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
SirTimbo Nov 10, 2011 7:20 pm
Also eye of death drops increase dramatically if you farm them while hollowed. My rate in the sewers was 5 humanities for every 3 eyes of deaths while hollowed. While Human I only ever found 1 eye in 3 playthroughs.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 10, 2011 7:31 pm
The undead burg area - where the flaming barrel is, that drop down landing , you can drop to another ledge leading the hallway the first black knight is, so it can be escaped without boning / homward spell


The giant trees that can be attacked block pathways that lead to some treasure, the wolfs ring is one, they do no respawn once killed.. I don't think anyways..


The blightown arena area is more like a sewer basin, and it seems like it could have been filled with water.. as for being invaded.. hmm.. we're you in the dragon covenant at the time? Did you kill the guy, get any loot?

that would be epic cool.. that you get invaded by npc's near the dragon scales..


the eyes of death dropping whilst holow makes sence, but you can go to Nito through the coffin whilst human,

the access is only blocked to nito only after you get the lordvessel, before or after placing it.. so long as you have it.. no Nito for you..
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 10, 2011 7:33 pm
Petrus armor is cleric armor.. just equip it and stand beside him.. compare the differences..

On the coins, and Lloyds talismans..

Lloyd is the founder of the way of the white covenant and uncle to Lord Gwyn
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SirTimbo re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
SirTimbo Nov 10, 2011 7:39 pm
I thought the same about the trees until I found an attackable one in the middle of nowhere... Might be an oversight spawn location.

Was not in the dragon covenant at the time since it was my first playthrough and was surprised since I just had the mandred invasion right before the dragon guy. It was a dragon and not a darkwraith because he dropped a scale and dodged wayyyy too many soul arrows for an NPC. I only killed him because he took the ladder down and I got an easy shot off...

Was never able to replicate it tho so I'm putting it down for now as a server issue sending me someone else's invasion. Not complaining as I enjoy non RoF pvp (not locking on hurts a mage).
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ublug Nov 10, 2011 7:52 pm
The trees wil sometimes move around, there should still just be two of them.

Petrus's armor, at least the chest piece, is slightly different from the other cleric armor.

I have tried to drop coins into the well in firelink and in the basement, but no luck with either
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Scudman_Slayer re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Scudman_Slayer Nov 10, 2011 7:55 pm
drop coins in the wells? what is that suposed to do?
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ublug re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
ublug Nov 10, 2011 7:59 pm
You know, make a wish? lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wishing_well
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Scudman_Slayer re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Scudman_Slayer Nov 10, 2011 8:00 pm
make what wish?
"oh please aloow me to get a fvcking titanite slab so i can upgrade my fvcking weapon finnaly >:|" thats hwat i would say
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wruscle re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
wruscle Nov 10, 2011 8:37 pm
What about the ladder at the bottom of the zig zag run in sen's fortress, right before you go into the room with the mimic and the elevator? I climbed down and there was nowhere to go because of the ball stack. I suspect that a first time speed run to get down there before the balls start going that way would open a secret area. Maybe that huge rooftop area you can see from where you fight the npc with the rapier. Anybody know anything about this?
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somebody_else re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
somebody_else Nov 10, 2011 8:45 pm
@SirTimbo
there are two attackable trees, they are covering the two hidden paths and when you attack them (or kill butterfly) they start escaping with speed of snail. next time you come in the level they are simply at the end of their escape route. they never dropped anything for me.

you can kill hydra without rusted iron ring no problem, i had to do that to access ember asap. you need shield and longer sword like claymore or you will be too slow. you only need to waste 2 heads, the rest will simply miss until the end (second hydra is more accurate) and continue with bow.
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ublug re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
ublug Nov 10, 2011 8:48 pm
I was going to try it on my last run, but I ran straight into the mimic room. When I ran back out again the boulders had started to pile up. I'll try to remember it on the next playthrough, but I'm guessing it leads nowhere, or death (as usual).
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 10, 2011 9:31 pm
I dropped down the boulder hole with only one boulder in it, the first one that you come to..and died... the death was due to a fall greater then fall damage, I didn't hit the ground, died falling..

I will try it again on my next playthrough though for sure..
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JohnnyHarpoon re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
JohnnyHarpoon Nov 10, 2011 11:20 pm
My guess is it's like Lost and they just made **** up with no answers.
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vedasisme re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
vedasisme Nov 11, 2011 9:19 am
Living trees spawn blocking a small passage in Darkroot. If you run by them, they will chase you on their wiggling roots, so when you come back they might be standing in the middle of nowhere, but no matter what they can't actually hurt you...I think. As far as I know they do not respawn.
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Starmonger re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Starmonger Nov 11, 2011 9:40 am
he means the hallway ABOVE the platform with the spider shield above the rat, you cannot get there
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tri-edge666 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
tri-edge666 Nov 11, 2011 11:52 am
In the Lower Undead Burg just after you enter the area and going to the way that leads to some hollows with torches are a closed door and someone calls you and say that he is locked... I have the master key and the only thing left to do in this playthrough [my first] is kill Gwyn and i havent found any key for that door yet... Am I crazy or i missed the key?
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Versagen re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Versagen Nov 11, 2011 11:55 am
You can get it from the undead merchant, it's the "residence key".
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tri-edge666 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
tri-edge666 Nov 11, 2011 1:26 pm
/\ i said LOWER Undead Burg, and i already opened that door using the master key.... the one i mean is on the opposite side to capra demon
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Drethan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Drethan Nov 11, 2011 1:34 pm
Yeah that bugged me for a while too. You are talking about the door near the twin humanities which is guarded by seven hollows with torches right?
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Versagen re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Versagen Nov 11, 2011 2:08 pm
That's the one I mean, the master key doesn't open the door but it does. pretty sure
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Deathwing re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Deathwing Nov 11, 2011 2:08 pm
and sth about the tail of the bridge dragon : I did a one shot for getting the drake sword today ! I couldnt believe but it might happen for you too ( I used dragon slayer bow ) and with 4 shots at its neck dragon was dead .
and sth else I found out that when you you have ornstein armor the dragon slayer spear out put higher dmg than when you are using that with any other gear ( Im not 100% sure but 99% sure )
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JohnnyHarpoon re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
JohnnyHarpoon Nov 11, 2011 8:05 pm
@tri-edge Versagen is absolutely correct, the Residence Key opens the door and it's a low-level Sorcery trainer inside. Master Key doesn't work.

I also one-shotted the Wyvern with a cast of Wrath of God to the head.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 15, 2011 2:18 pm
Yo, i have a question. In Sen's fortress. there appears to be dead end behind an undead knight. It's around the area where the giants are moving boulders and throwing giant fire bombs at you. Is there an item that appears later or is it just a dead end.
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dlw1964 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
dlw1964 Nov 15, 2011 2:46 pm
You can't do a no lighting campfire run.
You must light the 1st bonfire in the undead asylum to get the door to open.
You even have to light that campfire on NG+ & so on.

glyphblade Nov 15, 2011 7:38 pm
So far the sen's fortress hallway with the balder knight guard leads to a dead end, it does give you a better view of the scale of sen's fortress.. but as of now I have found nothing special about it..

I did do a run right to the hole where the boulders go in Sens' fortress.. ran ahead of the first one to come down the hall after walking through the fog.. jumped in the big hole and promptly died.. nothing at the bottom... execpt for the giant boulder that also landed on my corpse..

I have to correct something here.. I had earlier posted you cannot revisit Nito if you have the lord vessel.. you can go see Nito, you just need an eye of death in your inventory.. and obviosuly before killing him.. killing him does not kick you out the the convent btw..

For all new games + the campfire in the asylum remains lit


Farming eyes of death hollowed or human makes no difference to drop rate, your item find is what effects it..

I had the same approximate drop rate while hollow and in human form..


All bonfires also retain their kindling for all future game playthroughs... the idea of a no bonfire run is you start the game with the Estus you have.. and your save point is the

asylum / firelink / painted world / anor londo painted world entrance / Dukes Archive Prison /

These are areas that regardless if you have visited the bonfires.. this is where you will respawn when you die... even if you have not rested at that bonfire..

Someone was talking keys earlier

There are 3 doors in the lower undead burg.. one is the residence key - undead merchant sells it, have you met his girlfriend Yulia?

This key opens the door to free the Sorcerer.. you can hear him ask for help through the door.

The other 2, one is the Depths Door, you obtain for kill the capra demon, opening the door to the depths.

I believe the basement key opens the last doorway, up on the stair platform, leading the shortcut back to firelink and female moss merchant..
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Rikah22 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Rikah22 Nov 15, 2011 10:35 pm
How many play throughs have you done
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 16, 2011 12:39 am
I am on playthrough 5 currently

and my latest theory is a bust.. took all the lord souls to Seath, killed everyone else except him, saved him for last.

tried the pendant in the first seath room, and in the boss fight with him... My theory was that since Seath is well Seath the betrayer, that maybe he would offer some kind deal for the other lord souls..

Rescued Logan, talked to logan, allowed logan to go lose his memory, used the pendant and nothing... that was my last idea regarding the pendant...

If the pendant has memories locked away.. that maybe it could restore Logans memory,

afraid to log off / leave the area cause then he'll go hollow....

back to the drawing board as they say...
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Rikah22 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Rikah22 Nov 16, 2011 12:58 am
You will find the answer don't give up
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JakeTheRattleSnake re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
JakeTheRattleSnake Nov 16, 2011 1:24 am
im new to this and if i started two or three more games i would pick master key just cuz shear size of and im in a rush always...its your how many games you played and u pick pendant? the only one u know does nothing? other then the creator wants u to?


like i said im to scared to start game without some help... but u didnt why? sounds like creator made a challenge and u accepted it, sounds like youve look at every crack in game.

your first mistake is looking for something that dont exist, your second one is asking wiki forum for help cuz we didnt choose pendant u did u had questions needed answered and u went for it. dont lower yourself to ask peaple if they caught a glitch or a guy was standing in wrong place second game..

you need to accept that the creator called you out, u accepted the challenge your failing by turning back asking other peaple, like your lost! the creator is laughing at u and ur worthless skills youve played what 3-5 games and all youve came up with is a couple doors, couple cracks in walls, and salesman being heroes!!!

i think what your looking for is yourself. and you wont find it until you lose everything.i belive in ya take it the next level and leave all us losers on wiki if u get lonely look at the pendant it will give u warmfeeling and remind of a time not so distance or whatever it says


items/ make u cool and populiar we live off levels stat points and victorys

pendant makes you a god of DS set apart from all the others, whatever u find using pendant and all these hours u spent making it happen instead of thinking to much and asking us. look at your doll and figure it out..... i heard you looked everywere have u studied the picture close?? if so keep it to yourself dont quit now, and remember you never want to gwet to bottom of anything always stride for the top
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JakeTheRattleSnake re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
JakeTheRattleSnake Nov 16, 2011 1:27 am
sorry when peaple get weak and ready to quit and just plain sound like a girl...i start preaching and write weird stuff like i just did sorry guys ive always been like that.....im just looking for some more hummanity
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Rikah22 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Rikah22 Nov 16, 2011 1:38 am
We all get tired
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 16, 2011 2:35 am
Jake, I think you're misunderstanding him. He's just exhausting all of the possibilities. He isn't this weak and desperate person turning to everyone and anyone for answers.

Besides, From Software has been known to hide small little things in their games. It isnt weird to think Dark Souls is any different.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 16, 2011 3:17 am
I noticed something.. after hearing rumors about Guyra (boss from the King's Field series) possibly being in the game, I looked up some videos of King's Field on youtube to see what he looked like because I was curious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N3XNcfCS9E
Take a look.

Doesnt he somewhat look similar to the Drakes?

Just my two cents..
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Rikah22 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Rikah22 Nov 16, 2011 11:48 am
Is it still as much fun after 5 times I was just wondering because I didn't get to ng+ yet
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 16, 2011 4:00 pm
Jake.. I'm confused by your post.. I didn't say anything about quiting... I've been exploring all the intersting theories and idea's and putting all my findings on this thread.

But I am confused about your post, and what your trying to say.. are you angry, or sad, or confused? is it a language thing.. is english your primary language?, is something being lost in translation here?

I mean no offense, just very confused at your comments...

Rikah, the game is still as challenging at new game +++++, in fact a little more so...

Bosses in new game + and so forth are actually easier with Crystal Homing Soul Mass, buffed with rings, and dusk crown does 1,200 + damage.. Wrath of God with miracle boost does 700.., Crystal Ring Shield + Greatsword of Atorias.. will hit for 2,000 damage on some bosses.. so they become more of a quick run and less a head ache..

But regular mobs.. they become near boss like.. for example in the dukes.. the archers hit for almost 50 % health.. the channelers can 1 hit you with their trident attack..

one slip up with a darkwraith and he can chain combo you for 4 hits and you're dead..

as the new game + difficulty increases.. your stats, weapons and damage output does not increase..,. it wil reach a max, even at max level.. which you cannot go beyond..

in new game +, your second playthrough.. baddies get harder by almost 3 times and xp is tripled.. a blue drake in regular game is 500 x, in new game + it is 1,500 xp

by new game +++++ the blue drake is 1,620 xp give or take, it's damage and resistance is that mugh higher.. while your damage output is still the same..

Long post.. but the idea is that the game does get harder and retain it's challenges..

Lastly.. the idea of this thread, this wiki and the whole thing about this game is sharing experiences and idea's... I was lost starting out on the covenants, on the spells, on the finer details of the game...

looking at the kick animation for one... when npc's go hollow, what each boss soul weapon does, the info that you don't have in the game.. and really should be built in.. but it's not..

I don't have a guide, or strategy book, I have the game.. I play the game.. and I figured out a ton of stuff on my own, and or with some help from the boards..

Now I come to the forums for the same reason we all do.. but not to look for help because I'm lost, but to offer help.. to those who might need it...

and in the proccess maybe someone else found something I didn't know, and can learn from them...
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zxcr1m50n re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
zxcr1m50n Nov 16, 2011 4:17 pm
Theres a walkway next to the white witch, with a big archway, but its covered by stone, seems like it would be a pathway, whats that all about?
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ublug re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
ublug Nov 16, 2011 4:34 pm
It may just be to confuse players, at least that's what it does
It's actually the place where Kirk's corpse will appear, leaning against the "door", after you kill him in all 3 areas.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 17, 2011 3:14 pm
Not sure what happened in this thread, but the text is all no wrapped and all over the place.. so any way to fix it?

some new idea's..


the natural order of the game after leaving the asylum, is going to the gargoyles, free Lautrec and ringing the first bell..

after the depths, but before blightown, Rhea and party show up and depart to the catacombs, after defeating Pinwheel, and saving Rhea, and returning to firelink..

During this time Lautrec will dissappear as well, upon rest / re load / he is back...

In that conversation he will offer you a secret for souls 5% or 10% of your current soul level I think, he tells you about Rhea in the catacombs and petrus intentions..

when further pushed he tells you he got the information from a priest. In the catacombs, in the area where you drop down on the wheel skeletons, where Leeroy summon sign is.. is a corpse with Priest robes on it..

Has anyone run into a priest npc yet? My theory is Lautrec killed that priest

also if you talk to Petrus then, he will confirm you spoke to Lautrec and reveal his intention to kill Rhea..

near the end of the game, Oswald will say you and Petrus have something in common regarding sin..

Not really a secret, but adding more information here for further thought / analysis..


Has anyone tried a blightown basement Quelagg bell first, then gargoyle bell run?

anyone with a high ranking in the Sunlight brothers covenant, like rank 2, or possibly 3 with a working non bugged Solaire equip the ring of the firstborn and possible white sceance ring and talk to him, use the pendant near him? Visit the statue of the sitting maiden with the baby in firelink behind Frampts?

As always I am thinking of different idea's which might unfold this mystery...

Memory is the key..
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Solrak_Selarom re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Solrak_Selarom Nov 17, 2011 3:26 pm
Hey glyphstone... Excelent post, i love when people try to get more from the game... Its dark souls... there most be more!!

By the way, there are actually 3 giants at the Sens fortress, 2 of them are at the top in the normal path (The one with the bombs that doesnt respawn and the one that put in the big iron balls that respawns)... then i first though that the iron golem opened the gate but that isnt true... when you drop to the bottom, to farm the demon titanite, and then go up... just before dropping down to the start again there is a illusionary wall that leds you to the 3rd giant that has chains in the floor (Drops nothing anyway)and there is a path behind him that seens to lead to somewhere... but i couldnt get there...

Another though that has been killing me is that when you start the game and see the INTRO... they mention 4 big characters that came from the flame and participated in the war to the dragons... didnt pay attention the first time i played but after watching the video on youtube i saw it (love the intro btw), they mention gwyn, the witches of izalith, Nito, and then appers a golum type mob(from lord of the rings) and then they say: and the furtive pygmy "So easily forgotten"... WTH was that, who is that pygmy... didnt saw him on the entire playtrough. Im on NG+ rigth now.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 17, 2011 3:29 pm
hey solrak..

The current theory is the pygmy and the pendant are somehow tied..

in either that you, the player is the descendant of the pygmy and the pendant will somehow explain that,

or using the pendant in a specific part / area will unlock / open / reveal access to the pygmy
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Solrak_Selarom re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Solrak_Selarom Nov 17, 2011 3:49 pm
Yeah... but i think that those that came from the flame are kind of "immortals" no!? The witch doesnt exist anymore because she was trapped by that bed of chaos but then gwyn, nito and seath are still there... so where is that PYGMY!!! Hahaha

What lvl are you now!? Im almost 100 and NG+ is easy... i have full DEX+INT char for katana/pyromancy BUILD and the bossess are very easy... maybe you are rigth... the true challenge come when the normal mobs are like mini bossess
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StriksBH re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
StriksBH Nov 17, 2011 8:55 pm
I'm sorry to say that I don't have anything to contribute to this amazing thread but can anyone tell me everything they know about the furtile pygmy?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 18, 2011 2:39 pm
Yo, Glyphstone. If you don't mind can you tell me all the theories that've been tried with the pendant? I'm curious and want to do a run myself. By the way, I can possibly try the high ranked covenant theory of yours. I just need to end the my current playthrough (currently at firesage demon on ng++) and do the snuggly trade glitch. At the same time it'll give me an achievement so it's a win win.
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ublug re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
ublug Nov 19, 2011 4:35 pm
My 'not lighting bonfires' run looks like it has failed. I have killed most of the accessible bosses without ringing any of the bells, Sif and Four Kings are still alive.
I went down to The Great Hollow to pick up some Dragonstones and the Cloranth Ring, and found out that the bonfire in front of the Everlasting Dragon is lit by default Afaik there is no way to extinguish that one.

TacoTrooper Nov 20, 2011 12:39 am
I've noticed there's an area ya'll haven't talked about yet. in the Painted World, after you defeat the Undead Dragon, if you walk directly where he was, there's this Thing that seems to be blocking your path. it moves a little, so i think its very much alive. i tried attacking it, but it only makes a squishy sound. does anyone know the point in that?
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 20, 2011 12:46 am
Those are its back legs, if Im not mistaken. I believe if you hit it hard enough (with a powerful enough weapon) you can make it stand up and you can see/walk underneath it...But I think the bridge ends with a drop, and that's that.
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TacoTrooper re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
TacoTrooper Nov 20, 2011 12:48 am
..... Back legs of WHAT O___O
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Wf2011 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Wf2011 Nov 20, 2011 4:21 am
Of the dragon. He doesn't need them, he has 2 perfectly good forelimbs.

As far as the Pygmy location goes, it stands to reason that he MUST be in one of the lower locations, be the blight town or Izalith. The reasoning is that in the cinematic his is in a fiery cavern.
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Nov 20, 2011 5:27 am
Lower undead burg confirmed that there is no vlood in the floor in first playtrough. Hope that helps
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Nov 20, 2011 5:31 am
Vlood=blood, but you understood
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Nov 20, 2011 6:10 am
Also.. I've heard a lot about the pygme thing.
And it is comonly believed that the player is the pygme, or at least a decendant of him. When i asked hoe they knew they said Kaathe tells you..
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dominoboy re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
dominoboy Nov 20, 2011 7:17 am
I'm out of ideas to contribute. ALl the weirdest things were mentioned. But I do want to know what the pendant stands for. I also think it may have some connection with the witch's ring and New Londo ruins, but haven't checked no thing yet.
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Wf2011 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Wf2011 Nov 20, 2011 7:32 am
The ruins were flooded to stop the dark wraiths from messing the entirety of creation up. I don't see the connection between the witch, pendant and New Londo?
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DemonKid re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
DemonKid Nov 20, 2011 8:57 am
Only found 1 hidden wall that sound like you need some special wepon. after defeating seath i saw a message that was behinde the bonfire next to a icey wall saying: attack. It looked weak but i could not distory it with pyro or moonlight sword.
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DemonKid re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
DemonKid Nov 20, 2011 8:59 am
Oh, that and the chest that is already open in firelink near the sepant, i've seen alota thoerys about chests so
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Po1ymorph re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Po1ymorph Nov 20, 2011 10:10 am
On the subject of breakable wall's.

The room above the bonfire(above blacksmith Andrei) at the Undead Parish.

This room always looked like it should have some significance, there is a alter of sorts, and the wall has cracked/missing bricks, looks weak like it could be broken, and also looks similar to the wall Blacksmith Vamos breaks down in the Catacombs.
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Shadowpyre re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Shadowpyre Nov 20, 2011 10:31 am
any check out the dead end in the catacombs close to the black knight with the great axe there is a dead end with a necromancer and skellys there maybe they are guarding sumthing?
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Deathwing re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Deathwing Nov 20, 2011 11:22 am
I said in one of my posts that worked on the fake walls in many of my playthroughs . This was what I found : I think you all noticed that when you hit a fake wall there isnt the sound of your weapon hitting sth ( ofc if you hit directly on the fake part ) but if you try this on other walls they isn souns like metal on metal or metal on wood
I tried it on nearly all walls and I found out that there are a few walls that if you hit them there is no sound exactly like fake walls . But I was never lucky enough to go through them maybe a fully upgraded weapon isn't all you want maybe it should be a special weapon
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TrundleKing re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
TrundleKing Nov 20, 2011 6:38 pm
@TacoTrooper
It's not the back legs, it's actually one of the monsters from the lava area of Lost Izalith, and I dont think it's supposed to be there. if you do the jumping attack and then go through it's legs onto the lower bridge, it causes a glitch in the game. I don't know why that enemy is there, but you can't kill it, and as far as I know none of the patches have fixed this, so maybe it is intentional
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DoktorJay re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
DoktorJay Nov 20, 2011 7:27 pm
maybe the monsters from the lava in lost izalith are all bottom halves of an undead dragon.. think about that
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 20, 2011 7:38 pm
They're just the back legs of previously-living Dragons. Why they're in Lost Izalith I have no idea, but they're there, and there's one in the Painting as well.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 20, 2011 10:33 pm
Those are the back legs of the dragon. If you watch you'll see them break off. First his wing falls off and then he breaks apart from his legs as he crawls towards you. Next game you play approach from the right side without going down the walkway towards him. Also, those are zombie dragon legs in Izalith. Why they're there, I have no idea but they are exactly the same as the zombie dragon legs in Ariasmas. As for the chest behind Frampt it's a restore chest just in case you lose a story breaking item like the charred ring or crest of artorias. Stuff like that. However, the chest behind Gwyndolin I am completely stumped on.
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Wf2011 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Wf2011 Nov 20, 2011 11:04 pm
Maybe you have to do something to get invited into Gwyndolins private chamber?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 20, 2011 11:12 pm
That's an interesting idea. Probably involves ranking up a lot in the covenant. Damn, I hate that Covenant.

Noctes Nov 21, 2011 1:59 am
The empty chest in Gwyndolin's chamber is supposed to contain the Maiden set. But you can obtain it from a cell within the Duke's Archives as well. If you do, the chest will appear empty when you reach it.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 21, 2011 2:02 am
Really? Well, that clears that up. Thanks. So there are no secret chests then. As far as we know.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 21, 2011 3:13 am
So, I took a look around the japanese wiki for anything on the pendant. What turned up were bad translations and a tad bit of confusion but i got something. i found a page and it mentioned Petrus, rhea, and 7 pendant but because its badly translated I wouldn't use it. For all I know it could of been telling me that rhea drops 7 humanity and a pendant.

As for the japanese translation of the pendant: "water off a duck's back."
It's a saying that basically means insults don't affect you. all that makes it sound like is 'the game is hard get over it'.

The other part is this:
"Where there is a parish fire-proof immortal soul of the woman up and down (rare relics)
Remuneration of the woods hunting"

The first part sounds like the fire keepers or their souls. Up and down? I dunno. This is just speculation.
Remuneration means act of rewarding or paying. Basically it says you can get the Pendant from Forest invaders.

So, I am really stumped of the Pendant. i was hoping for some info from the japanese wiki but got nothing. Their may be a connection though to Petrus. Also, I wonder about that Astora knight, Tarkus, and anastacia as they were all together in the one trailer. Maybe a history between them or something. Also seemed liked mr. Astora Knight left and did a hand gesture like "wish me luck" he ends up meeting you but dies.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 21, 2011 3:20 am
"Where there is a parish fire-proof immortal soul of the woman up and down..."

To me that sounds like that area in the Undead Parish where the elevator is leading to Firelink Shrine ("up and down"?). At the altar, thats where Reah's remains are when/if she's killed by Petrus. That's also where you ifnd the first Firekeeper Soul.

As for Oscar (the Knight of Astora in the beginning) and Anastacia and Tarkus, I know the first two are from, well, Astora. I dont know about Tarkus. What does the full description of his armor say?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 21, 2011 3:21 am
Okay, So the first part: "Where there is a parish fire-proof immortal soul of the woman up and down", is when Rhea dies. i should of done a better look at what are it was under.

*Sigh* So the english and japanese descriptions differ greatly. I just don't get it.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 21, 2011 3:26 am
The Pendant that is. Um Tarkus Armour doesn't say anything about where he's from. Just about his strength.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 21, 2011 3:30 am
Yeah, as far as I've seen, the Japanese and English differences in names, places, items, descriptions, etc etc are slightly different.

For example, the Drake Sword in Japanese, when translated to English, translates roughly to "Flying Dragon Sword". Maybe they just dont have a word for Drake? Drakku Suwadu??
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 21, 2011 3:34 am
heh yeah. I did notice one thing going through the list of NPCs on the site. They lacked one but also had another. They apparently don't have Onion heads daughter but they also had a third NPC for the forest. It was a ninja looking character. From what the translation said it's hard to find him because he has the transparent body spell on. Thought it was odd. I might go take a look. But I have to kill the hydra again and them cats.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 21, 2011 3:48 am
Yeah, Shiva of the East has a Ninja bodyguard guy.. cant remember his name (if he even has one. When you kill him, he drops the Dark Wood Grain Ring, or the "Ninja Flip Ring".
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 21, 2011 3:55 am
Ah, ok. Well, now I know who I get to kill next
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JohnnyHarpoon re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
JohnnyHarpoon Nov 21, 2011 3:56 am
Just watched the prologue again...noticed something stupid but that may be poignant lore-wise.

Watch the Prologue, and the shots of the "Furtive Pygmy's" hands looks pretty similar to the shot of Anastacia of Astora's hands.

Granted they are both shots of humanoid hands...but they are simply depicted similarly, and other potential humanoids (Gwyn, for instance) are not depicted such.

Just sayin'.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 21, 2011 4:01 am
I am currently trying to get a hold of a pendant. On NG+++ and just beat Quelaag. Rhea, by now, should be in the catacombs. So, I need to beat Nito in order for her to move, correct?
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Nov 21, 2011 4:04 am
Can someone tell me what THE hell that Black phantom npc lobster thing in anor lando is?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 21, 2011 4:05 am
Lobster? What? Are you talking about those rare vagrant bug like things?
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 21, 2011 4:08 am
I suggest killing the Ninja when Shiva moves to Blighttown. That way he wont fall off the cliffside accidentally.

There should be a way to get his ring when you leave and come back if he does, but I cant remember how.

@JohnnyHarpoon: I noticed that too, just earlier today.

Also, take note that we (the players) and most of the NPC's we meet are slightly shorter than average compared to the likes of Gwyn, Gwyndolin, (especially Gwynevere...but thats a story for another day) etc etc. I think we ARE descendants of the Pygmy.

Pygmy is another word used to say something is small, or short. Maybe we all inherited his short gene.
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Nov 21, 2011 4:56 am
@ Digital-Ashes

Dunno what to call it, seems to spawn random in anor londo.
Its small, weak and had the red aura of an invading phantom. Wa nust wondering because there must be something logic about it being there.
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JohnnyHarpoon re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
JohnnyHarpoon Nov 21, 2011 7:00 am
@Digital-Ashes & Siahallatua:

It's a vagrant, supposedly cause by a) A dropped, unrecovered item from another player's world b) An unrecovered bloodstain from another player's world or c) a Gravelord Servant.

Any combination could be true, as far as I know. But that is what it is...
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dominoboy re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
dominoboy Nov 21, 2011 7:04 am
All above is possible. I'd also add that it may be an invader with RoF that has the recent patch. I was invaded in Anor Londo too once and couldn't see his face but could lock on normally.
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TibetSandFox re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
TibetSandFox Nov 21, 2011 10:38 am
Has anyone tried to do to everlasting dragon what is said in the intro? That is, attacking with gwyn sunlight spear, chaos storm, and some disaese miasma?
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DemonKid re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
DemonKid Nov 21, 2011 12:10 pm
Wow good thread, I bet som1 here wil work it out wait and see

The_Bearded_Man Nov 21, 2011 2:31 pm
Anyone kindled absolutely all the bonfires to max? Maybe something happens with the pendant then.

Also did you know the titanite demon in lost izalith can respawn? I think he's the only one that does so.

A possible clue to the possibility of there being more to the game are some of the pics in the art book. For example there is a fat official (like from demon's souls) riding a boar, a faceless female humanoid gargoyle, a dude with a huge crossbow, a guy with what looks like he's wearing the sunlight maggot on his head (not wearing solaire armor), a black/dark grey heavily armoured knight with 4 red eyes wielding a huge blunt sword and a white chimera.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 21, 2011 2:49 pm
Armoured four eyed knight is Tarkus. You can get his armour and summon him to help fight the Iron Golem. i pretty mucg said the exact same thing about the art book. Bonfire theory is interesting though.
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Drethan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Drethan Nov 21, 2011 2:53 pm
By the way, I noticed my post here and that I haven't said anything although I did drop the pendant in front of Solaire.
So here is the confirmation: No **** is happening.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 21, 2011 3:05 pm
lol, I'm thinking of trying it in front of the Sunlight Altar once I get one
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Drethan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Drethan Nov 21, 2011 3:31 pm
^ Good luck but my hopes aren't that high.
By the way, what's up with the bell ringing I'm hearing nowadays? Out of nowhere I hear a bell ringing.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 21, 2011 3:35 pm
Oh, that's other players ringing the bells of awakening in the same server as you.
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Drethan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Drethan Nov 21, 2011 3:37 pm
Really? That's cool. Thanks for the quick reply.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 21, 2011 3:38 pm
So, I just had an epic 1v1 fight against Sif. Broke my armour lol. Anyway, as I was fighting him my friend was watching and suggested I fight him with the Greatsword of Artorias and see if the resonant with each other. Personally, I don't believe anything will happen but it's worth a shot. (Killed him already though)
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 21, 2011 3:39 pm
@Drethan: No prob.

Also, might want to try his shield too.
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Drethan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Drethan Nov 21, 2011 3:41 pm
Sif seems to be in most of the theories. I, too, might give it a shot.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 21, 2011 3:50 pm
Okay, I have a question. After you save Rhea and she dies at the church, if you don't visit her soon enough, is the pendant a sure drop? Or are my odds of getting it better if i straight up kill her?
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Drethan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Drethan Nov 21, 2011 3:53 pm
Don't kill her. I killed Petrus first so he was not able to kill her later on and I decided to do it myself but she did not drop pendant. You are better off by letting Petrus kill her. Wiki says it's found where she was praying after she is gone so, it's probably going to be there if Petrus kills her.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 21, 2011 3:56 pm
Alright, thanks. I read that you had to go to two different areas after she appeared at the church. This includes killing the area's boss. I've done that but she's still there. I was getting a bit impatient but thanks for letting me know. So, I'm off to kill the Stray Demon and see if she's gone or not after that.
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Nov 21, 2011 4:39 pm
I quote:

This is a COMPLETE guess based on Sunlight Medallions and Solaire's crazy sun fetish. He's supposedly the Lord's firstborn, but when he lost his status as deity, he lost his memories. The body lying outside Gwyndolin's tomb is Solaire's original body, which is why it has the ring of the sun's firstborn. What the sunlight medallion suggests is that Solaire is a god of war who lost his divine powers, but continues to watch over his warriors (the Sunlight Warriors, aka Sunbros). I'm making a huge guess that if you can find Solaire's final appearance (I don't think the one outside Lost Izalith is it) with him not getting consumed by a sunlight maggot, you unlock some of the story.


Maybe this is something?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 21, 2011 11:07 pm
Finally got a pendant. I want to obtain the Lordvessel first and move from there.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 21, 2011 11:09 pm
So, and this was supposed to be part of my last post, can you guys and gals of this wiki give me some info, theories, and tried attempts on the pendant? I'll also be going around finding out all I can. Much appreciated.
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JohnnyHarpoon re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
JohnnyHarpoon Nov 22, 2011 6:35 am
First post-patch post and...

...the description of the Pendant is still the same as the Sunlight Medal.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
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Wf2011 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Wf2011 Nov 22, 2011 7:54 am
That it must be given to who who shoe...
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 22, 2011 11:32 am
Speaking of Sunlight medal, I can no longer get solaire's story to progress in NG+ and up. I summoned him at the Gargoyle's and the Gaping dragon but when i get to Anor Londo he doesn't appear in the bonfire room. I can, however, still summon him to fight Ornstein and Smough. After that he never appears again. Did i miss an area for him?
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Drethan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Drethan Nov 22, 2011 12:16 pm
^ Nope, he is bugged in NG+. Or so I've heard.

Digital-Ashes Nov 22, 2011 12:19 pm
Dang. That's lame.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 22, 2011 12:30 pm
solaire is supposed to be fixed with the new patch.. which people are saying came out today?

Lots of theories and idea's all hang on to this patch update..
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Scudman_Slayer re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Scudman_Slayer Nov 22, 2011 12:32 pm
stange he didn't apear to help me against the centipede demon and i was human too
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 22, 2011 12:33 pm
Well, it's kind of too late now as I'm past Anor Londo. By the way, I am trying for Kaathe and i realized the Crestfallen warrior hasn't gone hollow yet. I'm at the four kings already so I don't know what to make of it.
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TibetSandFox re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
TibetSandFox Nov 23, 2011 2:54 pm
That pathway where the big rat is in the depths... a bridge above the rat, higher level than spider shield, is just the bridge where slimes drop from the roof.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 23, 2011 10:17 pm
So, I got a Pendant off of Reah, talked to kaathe and had nothing new happen. No new different dialogue and no reaction from the Pendant. Anything else to try?
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 23, 2011 11:15 pm
k.. if you go back to the beginning of this post.. you'll see that Kaathe and Pendant have 0 or nothing, or no effect, or like water off a ducks back..

kaathe and the pendant have nothing to do with each other.. it is only a rumour which has been disproven..

that said.. try anything and everything you can think of

Some things to consider....

The no covenant pendant things has been thoroughly debunked..

damn mythbusters should do a show about this freakin game

anyways - No covenant is some rumour, which infact simply makes it easier for darkwraiths to invade ... if you join a good covenant - princess guard / way of the white / sun bros ... online you are not as easy to locate ..

the pendant 3rd ending unless there is a entire secret area (leading theory anyways) which has an alternate method of defeating gwyn, linking the fire, or removing / curing the darksign..

There are only 2 endings.. 2 choices..

Now.. how does the pendant and the story and everything tie together..

I have two theories.. and the game shows you both of them.. one involves a ring and a secret path revealing itself... darkmoon sceance ring

the other is at rank 2 of a covenant access to a door opens up.. which might have been fixed to any rank 2 in any covenant btw.. so far confirmed gravelord rank 2 and chaos covenant rank 2 open the lost izalith shortcut...

Now here are the clues the game gave us..

Reah has the pendant, is way of the white,

Pendant has hidden memories, comforts travellers, Solaire is in definate need of comfort when he gets to lost izalith

The White Sceance ring is a high ranking way of the white ring...

When you get to faith 50, now 25 a dialogue options opens up at the sunlight alter

When you assist players in any good covenant or possibly non you gain ranks / benifits with the sunlight brothers lowering the required faith to join.

the way of the white and the princess guard both have no seemingly way to rank up, all of the benifits are upfront...

I am thinking that if you join way of the white, do a bunch of assists / summons on boss fights you will semi rank up and an area will become accessable / or rank up to level 3 in sunlight bros...

get solaire to the lost izalith shortcut alive... use the pendant with at least a level 2 rank in sunbros, possibly level 3...

and some areas will open up

either - the statue in firelink with have a dialogue option / intearction.. the one sitting on a tree stump with the baby..

more thoughts just to throw down..

rank 3 in specific covenant might unlock area's...

Darkmoon - a secret area in anor londo .. go to the right of the 2 guards outside the doors .. as if you had to go to the silver archer path.. go the pathway leading to the to demons on the landing..

look on that wall which adjoins the landing... you'll see a really out of place archway..

The centipede demon room.. a huge doorway... possibly connected to the gravelord / chaos covenant..

anyways.. sorry for the text dump.. just again.. getting some idea's out..
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 23, 2011 11:45 pm
I just kept Reah alive for the first time (shes in Undead Parish, I bought all of her Miracles), and when talking to her, I have the option to join her covenant. It's Way of White I'm assuming.

This may seem like im just grasping at straws here, but what if.. you never join a covenant, until up to that point? Then join the Way of White via Reah??

I dont know, its something. Until now, I never knew she offered to bring you into the covenant.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 24, 2011 12:07 am
...Has anyone actually tried EVERYTHING to kill the Everlasting Dragon?

Gwyn and them were able to kill them all (except one). He tore off their scales with his lightning bolts.

What happens if you try to attack him? What about using the Sunlight Spear miracle? Or What about using Crystal magic? It is Seath's, after all, and he did betray them.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 24, 2011 12:27 am
The dragon is immortal. However, I really do want to put the Sunlight Spear to the test.

@glyphstone: Thanks for the info. I completely forgot about looking at the first post heh. My bad. But yes, I will try those out except Solaire seems to be glitched. Is he still glitch or has it been fixed with the patch?
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 24, 2011 12:41 am
Haha, I kept shooting him until his health bar drained completely.. hes not dead. D:

But still, he has no health bar anymore.

I really want to see the Sunlight Spear tested as well.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 24, 2011 12:48 am
I need 15 more Faith before I do that, though T-T. I'll get on it as soon as I can but i just 1000G the game and want to move onto something else for a bit. Next time i get on I'll go kill Nito and farm the baby skeletons with Silver Serpent Ring. By the way, I killed the Four Kings and managed to keep the Crestfallen Warrior at Firelink. I talked to him after getting rid of Frampt but he doesn't say anything new, just complains about Frampt and doesn't move. I killed Seath and he's still there. Did I glitch him or something? Also, i heard rumour of a good ending for Onion Head's story. Is this true or just a rumour.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 24, 2011 1:43 am
onion knight story happy ending is hard to get.. or he only has 2 endings and the happy him and his daughter live ending is a rumour..

Not sure whats goin on with your cresstfallen warrior.. he might be scripted to leave after darkroot garden / astorias / sen's fortress ..sif possibly..

if you've jumped ahead of the game time line.. by all acounts he should leave when he can't stand the stench and is gonna do something about it..

btw - new game +++++ ( or ng 5) with the new nerfs.. Gwyn is almost impossible to solo...

all of his hits go through your shield, even at 100% block.. not for full amount, but enuff...

still gotta try a couple more tricks.. but damn did he get hard..

if you wanna farm humanity -

the crying maiden medusa at the bottom of seaths prisons will drop between 2 to 5 humanity on average now..

the skelly kids in the bottom of nito's do drop, but they're corpse also dissappear really fast.. or at least they did before patch.. a real pain in the ***..

Humanity farming with rats is much more tolerable now.. I think I made 15 humanity in about 20 mins off them.. whilst farming for eyes of death which I got like 30 of.. I didn';t kill all the rats in the depths only the ones on the way to the basilisks..

lastly - the crazy half snake half hollow guys in the upper blightown drop humanity at a decent drop rate, as well as small and large lost souls..
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SirTimbo re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
SirTimbo Nov 24, 2011 1:59 am
I tried all magic on immortal dragon at 99 int on NG+ Even did a 3 shot combo (HCM +CSM+ a +5 enchanted great scythe hit) all at once for an over 5k at once hit and dragon did not die. This was pre patch so magic will not kill the dragon, then tried dumping all my magic into him and still nothing.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 24, 2011 2:13 am
Dang. That's. . . insane.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 24, 2011 2:17 am
Wait, Glyphstone, I did a re-read of your post. What archway in Anor Londo are you talking about?
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 24, 2011 3:13 am
the area in anor londo past the winding movable spiral walkway, up the stairs to the big guards on the left is the blacksmith, on the right is a 2nd big set of doors that you cannot open

go around the 2nd big doors.. basically following the run you'd do if you were going to the silver knight sniper, first visit to anor londo..

there are 2 pathways that go down.. one goes to the 2 demons and then up to the snipers..

but futher back is a ledge / landing / ramp that leads to a dead end wall on the bottom of the ramp.. and at the top..

a mysterious archway, with hieroglyphic markings and symbols.. which could relate to a code, or order or hint..

or just be nonsence.. but I figure if you rank up enough in the covenant.. it might open up..

Theres no way that level 3 ranks do nothing..
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 24, 2011 6:58 am
If the archway you're talking about is the one i'm looking at, then there's actually another one exactly like it on the opposite side, going left through the small gate doorway towards the giant blacksmith.

Go up the huge stairs, then go left instead of right (towards the blacksmith), make another left down the stairs, then head around to the right side of them. That archway, with the three "protrusions"?
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mindragon73 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
mindragon73 Nov 24, 2011 7:24 am
I love the idea of even more secrets in this great game!
Could it be possible that using certain gestures in the "right" places could reveal/unlock something? Or are the gestures purely for online communication?
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 24, 2011 11:10 am
I have a feeling that gestures are also triggers for something ingame as well..

though I haven't found a use for them yet...

Dustofsaturn Nov 24, 2011 12:40 pm
I'll try some things out when I get home on my person on NG+++ (or was it NG++++) either way I'll contribute in finding out what I can and see if anything else looks odd. (Read through all 7 pages)
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 24, 2011 1:16 pm
best way to track your game playthroughs.. get the copper coin from Petrus each plathrough and don't sell em to frampt... each coin is how many plays..

or track spells, or rings.. cause after so many it does get hard to keep track..

I'm starting playthrough 6 today.. will finally see what happens to solaire hopefully..
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TibetSandFox re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
TibetSandFox Nov 25, 2011 2:28 am
Is it possible to get to the door located behind a broken bridge just before the tower to taurus demon. Just opposite to the black knight guarding a ring.
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JohnnyHarpoon re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
JohnnyHarpoon Nov 25, 2011 2:47 am
@Tibet Was looking at that the other day, too.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 25, 2011 3:37 am
I haven't found a way to get over to it yet...

it's either there for flavour.. or if there is ever future download content..

or if there is some way to break down doors and walls... which no one has found yet..
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 25, 2011 11:43 am
I think the little archway near the first black night is just for flavour and design. Also, I really don't believe there will be any DLC for this game. Doesn't seem like the type of game to have any. So, I was hoping to find Solaire in Lost Izalith but he wasn't there. I guess i was too far in the game before the patch. By the way, Lost Izalith is waaaaaaayyyyyy too easy now. The zombie dragon legs will only attack if your literally right next to them. I made it through with only killing two. Also, what's with the help hints now like from the beginning? I was in The Catacombs and their was an NPC message on the ground like the ones in the beginning that said, 'treasure' near a breakable wall.
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JohnnyHarpoon re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
JohnnyHarpoon Nov 25, 2011 5:05 pm
Recently just had a thought...

Isn't Gwyn pretty much acting as the current 'Dark Lord'? I mean, he isn't lighting the Bonfire...granted he would be killed if he did, so perhaps he wants it lit but is fearing death. But he pretty much just chills there, bein' the King and fighting off people from getting to the Bonfire...so like, just wondering what the deal is with that.

Granted any answer would be mere conjecture, but just curious as to people's thoughts. Also, I believe this makes for an interesting twist in terms of the game's cyclic nature (You choose the Dark Lord ending, and essentially restart the game in order to fight yourself...)
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 25, 2011 6:30 pm
From the great lord set: Armor of Gwyn, Lord of Cinder, who linked the First Flame.
Lord Gwyn, bearer of the ultimate soul, divided that power among his clan before linking the flame. When he departed, he left only with his greatsword, his garb, and the crown, now bereft of power. He kept his crown perhaps to preserve a symbol of the monarch, for its actual power had fully subsided.

He did link the flame and instead of burning he went hollow.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 25, 2011 10:02 pm
Something I want to add: That hallway just above the room with the giant rat (in the depths) is the hallway near the bonfire, with all of the slimes on the roof.

Just in case you were still wondering about that glyphstone.
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Solrak_Selarom re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Solrak_Selarom Nov 25, 2011 10:15 pm
Another thing that i noticed is that when you speak with the mage guarding the 4 Kings ( the one in crimson robe) he says that Artorias went lost in the abyss... Maybe thats a clue. Maybe he went lost and you have to search... I tried to run to one way for a couple of mins once lost myself... Got scared and used a homeward bone hahaha
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 25, 2011 11:15 pm
the abyss is a big square / circle room.. you can only run so far from the bonfire until you hit invisible walls and run on the spot... though it's hard to tell what with all the blackness..

though to mark it out with prism stones.. because in all that blackness might be a hole / pathway.. never know

look around Solrak and tell us what you find.
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 25, 2011 11:18 pm
If only you could use the dragon headstone glitch still. You could spew out prism stones endlessly to make a colourful laggy barrier around the Abyss.
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 25, 2011 11:20 pm
Oh and about Guyra some people online have said he/it is represented as the Everlasting dragon for the path of the dragon covenant.
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TibetSandFox re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
TibetSandFox Nov 26, 2011 7:04 am
I thought artorias is buried to darkroot forest. Where the wolf is guarding. That is why you get artorias stuff from its soul. Or did i not pay enough attention?
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TibetSandFox re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
TibetSandFox Nov 26, 2011 7:10 am
And the ring of course.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 26, 2011 10:43 am
I don't ever remember Ingward saying Artorias got lost in the Abyss. I even got Ingward to Firelink and he had nothing new to say. Never went hollow either even though it seemed liked he was as he was always saying stuff, "I no longer have a purpose now that the four kings are dead' or "it's so bright here, i can't stand it' something like that. is it possibly to make him go hollow? Oh, btw Crestfallen finally went hollow after the defeat of Seath. I guess the game finally recognized its mistake.
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Nov 26, 2011 12:10 pm
Guys i'm maybe on to something, or might kust be a glitch but i found à teleport circle in the catacombs. I just cant do anything with it.. Area with the necromancer and the two skeletons close to the wheelskeletons
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 26, 2011 12:12 pm
explain teleport circle?
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 26, 2011 12:18 pm
if it's a white circle / ring on the ground it is a resonance cirlce.. likely for wrath of god..

If it is yellowy gold like on top of Sen's Fortress after killing the iron golem.. then that would be a teleport circle..

So is it white.. or yellow?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 26, 2011 1:00 pm
I want to try something with warrior of sunlight but I need more Sunlight Medals. Is it possible to be summoned to fight a boss that you've already beaten? Example, if I beat Smough and Ornstein can i still go back and help others to beat them as well?
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Dustofsaturn Nov 26, 2011 1:33 pm
@Digital Yes, yes it is. I've done it a few times with Ornstein and Smough, and Lord Gwyn.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 26, 2011 1:36 pm
Sweet. wait, you can only beat Gwyn once though in your own world. After that you either light the bonfire or leave to get the endings.
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 26, 2011 1:44 pm
Oh no, I mean I beat Ornstein and Smough and helped there. Don't know why I said Gwyn, sorry.
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sentry65 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
sentry65 Nov 26, 2011 2:06 pm
isn't the pendant used to decipher the spider firekeeper's "...?" language?
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 26, 2011 2:34 pm
That's the witch's ring. The pendant as of now seems only to release some extra dialogue from some NPC's and to make Petrus confess to killing Reah.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 26, 2011 3:06 pm
has anyone tried to go the sealed door by the centipede dragon after lord vessle is filled? they look the same and it would make sense..
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 26, 2011 3:13 pm
I can. . . actually try that right now. To Lost Izalith!
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 26, 2011 3:15 pm
I've tried it and nothing has happened :/
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 26, 2011 3:15 pm
also, thanks for the info, Dustofsaturn.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 26, 2011 3:15 pm
Oh, nevermind then. Fast reply btw
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 26, 2011 3:20 pm
Haha, I don't have much of a life outside of school. Just homework, staying fit, and video games + forums.

I've smacked it with an Enchanted Demons Great Hammer +5 after placing the Lord Vessel and I've gotten nothing from that wall either... (or did I place the lord vessel or have all the souls...)

There's so many doors and alleyways that are inaccessible it's insane. Like at the Lordvessel placing area if you turn around you can see what looks a like a giant door and stairs on the side leading up to it but it's impossible to get to the sides of it because the jump is too far.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 26, 2011 3:22 pm
Yeah, I know what you mean. The one that annoys me the most is the Lower undead Burg. There are stairs behind plus the boards are different colour than all of the other boarded up places around it. I think it has to go somewhere.
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Razor2202 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Razor2202 Nov 26, 2011 3:28 pm
Has anyone ever had Solaire invite them into the sunbros personally? I went to join The sun bros right after the Smough Ornstein fight and Solaire was standing by the sunlight shrine. I decided to chat with him before I prayed at the shrine and he began what was, for me, a new dialogue. He invited me to the sunbros and i joined the covenant through his dialogue, not through the shrine.

After wards he makes a statement along the lines of it will be a pleasure to fight along side me in the coming battles.

Anyone else had this happen? Wonder if its like the Onion Knight, where if you miss just one dialog it will end his story arc then and there or have an impact on how he carries on for the rest of the game. Maybe now that I have had this dialogue for him it might change his fate?
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 26, 2011 3:31 pm
I've gotten that Dialogue before but he just seems to show up normally for me... and die normally to my sword. I tend to only get him up to the Anor Londo point though and get pissed when he doesn't follow me into the boss room so I murder him.

I don't think this will change his standpoint on turning into a chaos bug hybrid. If it does though it would be a major breakthrough.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 26, 2011 3:32 pm
From what I understand it's only if you get summoned a certain amount of times. It will not affect his story but what will is what happens in Lost Izalith.
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Nov 26, 2011 7:57 pm
@ Glyph

Cant remember sorry, but it disappeared and then appeared again. Bit eert time in the same place. Guess its WotG then never mind sorry...thought i had something there
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 26, 2011 9:03 pm
some new info.. and some old..

Pendant just cause it was brought up.. there is no extra dialogue with kaathe if you have the pendnant.. or not.. he tells the same story

Petrus - looting the pendant from Rhea's corpse switches him from oh where could she be to oh the grief.. but I don't think that is to do with the pendant.. just in game script cause you discovered her dead... go and talk to lautrec and he will ask for souls.. tell you a story, and petrus will confess to killing Rhea..

But likely not the big pendant secret.. I hope

2nd.. Catacombs, patches.. answer no I am not a cleric.. go down the hole.. come back and asnwer NO to forgive him.. as in no you don't lying scum bag.. and he gives you a twin humanities as an I'm sorry.. and continues story line as normal..

3rd - killing both Shiva and his ninja guard if you are a member of the cat covenant... and you kill them in blightown.. kill them.. absolve, rejoin cat covenant.. and the game goes on as normal..

4th - you can be summoned to cat covenant forest hunters if you are undead , hollow, no humanity... I suspect the same for the dark moons too..

more as I find out more of couse.. playthrough 6... is freakin hard as hell..
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 26, 2011 9:06 pm
I can clarify some of this. The parts with Rjea, Petrus, and Lautrec have nothing to with the pendant and is normal story between those three.
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JohnnyHarpoon re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
JohnnyHarpoon Nov 26, 2011 9:17 pm
I got dialogue where Petrus admits to having abandoned Rhea and tells me that if I find her in the Catacombs I could do anything I want with her...never heard him confess, though.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 26, 2011 11:48 pm
well he more so validates Luetrecs story..

Ole Lue will tell you him and Petrus hatched a nefarious plan in the catacombs or some such.. and Reah was left for dead..

Petrus will then say oh you talked to Luetrec.. and go on to say Reah is a prissy defensless maiden and he doesn't really like her...

fast forward.. Reah is saved, at the parish praying.. and then is dead.. 7 humanity and a pendant later...

Go talk to Pete.. he'll feign grief.. attack and kill him and loot the ivory talismon.. (option, but the ivory talismon is a female maiden way of the white talisman..)

Go visit oswald.. and he will ask if you know petrus, cause he's all drenched with sin..

so yah..

glyphblade Nov 27, 2011 1:39 am
all the pendant stuff is covered on the first page or two of the thread.. or at least whats been found out so far..
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Drethan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Drethan Nov 27, 2011 11:51 am
@Digital-Ashes
You got Ingward to Firelink? Wat? He goes to Firelink?
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Drethan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Drethan Nov 27, 2011 11:57 am
Just read he moves to Firelink if you talk to him after you defeat Four Kings. I was not aware of this.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 27, 2011 12:05 pm
Yeah. Just talk to him after you beat the Four Kings. he'll say something like "You beat the Four Kings? Marvelous. I guess I have no reason to be here." and he leaves. He'll appear in the little hallway behind Big Hat and his Apprentice at Firelink
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 27, 2011 12:06 pm
Whhops, didn't see your second post.
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The-Ringmaster re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
The-Ringmaster Nov 27, 2011 12:21 pm
You know what I always found weird was that underneath the Iron Golem their is a long hallway that has a balder knight guarding it. At the end of the hallway is a a open bridge with a wall covered in bricks. I have a feeling the developers don't make things for no reason and they definitely don't make dead ends unless their is an item to be picked up.

I am going to try attacking the wall with a fully upgraded dragon bone fist and see what happens.

I also get the impression that there is more to Sen's fortress than we are able to see. I stumbled across the secret passage to the giant that opens the gates and you are able to get a closer look at these areas that you can only see and I noticed some suspicious looking archways that had been covered in bricks.
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G.Fischer re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
G.Fischer Nov 27, 2011 2:57 pm
My friend and were off to go fight arttorias when we were invaded ( by cat covenant ) when we spotted the enemy he was far a way so we figured we would he tord the boss when we saw this BP like crab (it was small ) that shot some kind of arrows, what was this, is it a secret monster, if u have seen this monster PM me please.
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 27, 2011 3:00 pm
Some people on here have experienced it. It's called a vagrant. Most say it looks like a crab. I for one don't exactly know what it is.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 27, 2011 3:01 pm
It's crab like. I havent encountered one personally but I've seen pictures. It has something to do with people who haven't reclaimed a bloodstain.
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Digital-Ashes Nov 27, 2011 3:15 pm
I have an idea, more of a question. We all know those two crying squids in dukes Archives correct and the miracles they drop? Has anyone tried the miracles in their vicinity to see if it has an affect on them?
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Nov 27, 2011 11:15 pm
Wow thats a really good idea, because thats something that is already visuable and auditif strange. Unlike all the walls and stuff which i think are just there to drive us nuts and nothing more
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 27, 2011 11:38 pm
Vagrants appear in other worlds when someone in that area in THEIR world drops an item or a large amount of souls.

There's two types: good and bad. The bad ones look like crabs. The good ones look more like eggs. The bad ones look like a hatched version of the good.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 27, 2011 11:47 pm
And as for testing out those miracles, I would, I was planning to, but I dont have enough Faith to use them. They require 35 and 45 faith. Mine's only 30. D:

You also need to be in the Princess' Guard covenant to use them if im not mistaken, which i'm not.
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Firemann28 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Firemann28 Nov 28, 2011 12:02 am
Hwy guys read your entire convo and i think you guys are on to something. exactly what that is yet to be announced. I came across a blog a fews days ago from a guy who wrote that he had found a secret in the duke's archives that lead him to a guyrus boss fight. He layed out step by step what he had done to get it. However i dont know if its true or not. what really intrigued me was that the blog was taken off the internet hours after i had read it. I wish i had saved the steps mentioned, but i do rmember a handfull of them if you'd care to hear them. and your suggestions are very similar to what this guy had wrote. on a side note, has any one lured the centipede demon to that giant crack in the wall and let him attack it himself? just a thought.
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 12:11 am
I say lay them them down. I am curious about this.
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 28, 2011 12:14 am
The centipede demon thing would be interesting to do... If I ever want to try a 6th play through I might try to get him to do that.

But yes please list the steps you can remember, it may benefit us all
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 12:17 am
if the dukes archives secret boss Guyra was on the preparetodie forum.. it was a joke/troll/ idea.

the loop hole in it was to get to the dukes by not dropping / placing the lord vessel.. the whole steps are were not possible if you picked it apart through the game progress..

in my current run I plan on being princess guild when I go to the dukes.. and using those two miracles in the area..

some other idea's failed and tried..

Punched them/ used fore so no damage so they scurried to the exit by the wheels.. it's a ***** to get them there.. but they don't change it they go outside the pen / cell..

punch them into the cell that logan was in... also no change and they won't go through the door into the prison..

I have cast every spell at the gears, the walls and the cell.. every pyro spell and nothing..

I have cast the pyro spell that makes enemies your friend on the two cry pusses.. see what I did there cry and octopus..

anyway.. spell has no change..

only thing I didn't do.. princess guild and cast the miracles..

so thats the last one to try..

the centipede into the wall.. I will also be trying that this play through..

though again, cast every spell.. hit it with every weapon fully upgraded..

I have also fully upgraded to +15 the pick axe.. and hit and smashed all the weird doors / blocked paths.. and nothing happened...

using the pickaxe cause the skelleton blacksmith used one to smash open the wall in his forge ... he also sells homeward bones now..

SO.. the area's eitehr have hit points.. as in do enough damage to them...

or they don't break at all..
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 12:28 am
oh, I know what theory you're talking about. Yeah, it was full of holes and way too long winded for it to be actual.

I could easily do the princess guard now but I don't want to abandon the sunbros yet.
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Firemann28 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Firemann28 Nov 28, 2011 12:32 am
ok besides the fact that its even real it went something like this:

1. have the pendant as a starting gift (no brainer)
2. kill petrus right off the bat so that he cant kill rhea afterward.
3. do what u need to do to ring both bells and obtain the lordvessel
4. do NOT talk to framps
5. do NOT join any convenants
6. kill the 4 kings and join the darkwraiths by talking with kaathe.
7. go into tomb of the giants and find rhea with her 2 hollow buddies. kill them.
8. when she returns to the altar in the church, purchase all her miracles.
9. eventually she will go hollow and u will have to kill her at some (which i have never done maybe one of you can shead some light on that)
by doing these steps and others that i cant remember apparently the ability to "use itme" for the pendant will be available and by using it in the dukes archives in the room with the giant gears a wall will open and lead you to a boss fight with Guyrus.

I have my doubts but i hope this helps in some way because i would love to find some hidden **** that makes this awesome game even more awesome.

*side notes* maybe the secret breakable walls that no one has found may be only broken with a fully upgraded weapon from that specific place. ex. +5 crystal weapon breaks walls in dukes archives. +5 chaos weapon breaks walls in lost izalith. just a thought. AND has anyone ever summoned solaire for the gwyn boss fight? apparently you can if you summoned him for all his boss fights and if u saved him in lost izalith by taking the shortcut through the giant door.
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Firemann28 Nov 28, 2011 12:35 am
AND you have to kill princess gwynevere and make anor londo go dark.
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 12:39 am
Okay, that's different from what I thought it was. I'm gonna try it.
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 28, 2011 12:42 am
Alright so we have the Pendant and the Centipede Demon thing. I might try smacking some walls with a fully upgraded chaos weapon once a find a red titanite slab.

This game is so frustrating when it comes to secrets. How did people even find the great hollow?!
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 12:47 am
About the Duke's Archives, I've read theories online that say the way to get to the supposed secret boss is via an elevator, aka the platform with all of the gears in the middle of the prison room.

I have no idea how one is supposed to "activate it", and glyphstone himself seemed to have done everything possible to the gears resulting in nothing..
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 12:50 am
wow one of the best threads ive read but hard to keep up on lol. i agree with fireman i want to find some epic dank **** in this game.

has anyone ever tried to have the great sword and sheild of artorias with the cov of artorias for the 4 kings fight..cause didnt he fight them? dont know were im going with that but im curious what you brains can do with it...ima keep cheacking on this tread for sure..hope you guys find some ****!!
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 12:53 am
Ima go exploring in the Duke's hopefully those damn archers dont get me..
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 12:56 am
my first playthrough, by accident if you will I saved Solaire and had in in the Gwynn fight..

I say by accident because I wanted him to hollow to get all his gear.. was on an npc killing get everything cause well ya..

I did not have the pendant however..

snd.. you don't have to kill petrus for reah to go hollow..

do all the steps in the game.. bell towers, sen's, anor londo.. either kill O + S and get the lord vessel.. or don't..

then go and save reah... go to the Parish.. but everything she has..

then go back to kill O+S, get the lord vessel.. go back to the parish.. Reah will be gone.. no corpse.. that means she be hollow in a cell at the dukes..

Side notes.. on my current play.. I still have Big Hat in the cage in Sen's Fortress..

I have the lord vessel.. and just pissing around until someone can give me their Abyss covenant of artorias ring so I can do 4 kings whilst leaving Sif alive... SL 120, xbox 360.. sign name glyphblade...

I am currently forest hunter, trying to rank up to lvl 3... and I already killed Shiva and Ninja, cause the cat don't like em... thats whay she said anyways.. got kicked out and rejoined...

lastly I still have the black eye orb.. I plan on keeping it until I get to Gwyn.. to see if anything different happens...

This is the trying to break the game pattern and see if anything different will happen..

as to the no covenant thing.. I believe it is not important.. the covenants are part of the game.. more importantly however..

not being any of the 3 good covenant.. makes it easier for darkwraiths to invade..

and likely not beng in any covenant makes being invaded even easier..

damn darkwraiths.. starting rumours to find easy humanity..
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 1:01 am
Sidenote to my exploring: I got a goddamned trident!! Now I can trade for VIRTUALLY ANYTHING, HAHAHA.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 1:03 am
Nice! I got one as well. Should probably trade it for some Sunlight medals.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 1:04 am
i got an idea, how about having both artorias sword and sheild and fighting four kings before killing siff then going to the grave and seeing what happens
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 1:05 am
Sif will be all like "Intruder! Stop right there criminal scu- ...daddy..?"
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 1:12 am
haha that would be awesome, i just feel like he should have an actuall cov or siff gives you armor or somin crazy

maybe i just have to high of hopes?
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 1:18 am
Hotdamn, a SECOND trident.

I feel like by me getting all of these, I decrease everyone else's chances of getting them, lol.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 1:19 am
The fuuuu-!!!!! Are you serious!?!?
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 1:22 am
Yes, I am completely serious. Im not even wearing the gold serpent ring or symbol of avarice, and I only have 2 humanity.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 1:22 am
lol pvp and dual weild them
ppl will be scared ****!
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 1:28 am
I can give one away if someone needs one. I'll keep the other for when I decide to getting around to completing the Knight's Honor trophy, lol.
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Firemann28 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Firemann28 Nov 28, 2011 1:39 am
does anyone know a a dark sun gwyndolin statue in the game? just thinking that if the dark seance ring made a gwyn statue disapear the white seance ring might make a statue of her disapear..or a simliar statue?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 1:41 am
I don't think there is one. I'll look around though.
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Monopolus re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Monopolus Nov 28, 2011 1:44 am
I'm sorry that I don't have anything to contribute here, but holy hell is this thread making me interested. I hate how little lore they tell you in this game, and finding all the little secrets is going to be great.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 1:49 am
Being interested is the first step. Try out some of the rumours here and see if you can bust them or confirm them.

Noctes Nov 28, 2011 1:52 am
Well I dont see anything in the prison room.. I've even tried dancing on top of the gears fully geared as a Channeler, lol.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 1:57 am
Now that's funny XD. Did you try the miracles?
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 2:00 am
I want to bring this up again.

A few weeks ago, just out of curiosity, I watched a video on youtube of someone fighting Guyra in King's Field.

When I saw what he looked like, I thought to myself: "...wait a minute.. he looks like that giant Drake head in the Anor Londo trophy room.."

Here's the said video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsweMTIJfN4
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 2:01 am
And no, I dont have a high enough faith on this character to use them. My faith is only 30, whereas I need it to be 45 to use them both.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:02 am
35 for bountiful. but yes he does look like the drakes.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:03 am
They killed him. And stuffed his body! And mounted his head! The bastards!
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 2:07 am
And all of his babies too!

Also, the Moonlight Greatsword is a sword that has appeared in supposedly almost all of From Software's games in some form or another.

At the end of the video I just posted (technically at the beginning of part 38 of the series) he goes behind where Guyra was standing, and grabs the Moonlight Sword, beating the game.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:14 am
Oh, yeah. My friend said a similar sword was in Demon's Souls. He also said it was better than its Dark Souls counterpart.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 2:21 am
Its just the fact that it drops off of Seath, who is also from King's Field, is interesting. It would make sense to include Guyra somewhere in this game.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:24 am
Some people seem to believe that the Everlasting Dragon is Gurya. Actually, I remember hearing someone say that he had song on the soundtrack. It was cakked Gurya-Everlasting Dragon and ut was the same song as the one at Ash Lake.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:25 am
I have a question about the covenants. If I switch to another will I lose my rank in it?
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Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:26 am
In the previous one i mean.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 2:33 am
so ive got both of artorias weps now im waiting for next play though to try my theory
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 2:35 am
and yeah you will lose ur rank
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 2:37 am
Nah, it's just called "Everlasting Dragon".

And I believe if you leave your covenant and then come back, you'll be just a rank lower.

To be more specific, I think its.. say your a sunbro, and you turned in 30 sun medallions. If you leave and come back, your status in the covenant would only be half of that. It'd be as if you only turned in 15. Or if you turned in 40, then it'd be like you only turned in 20, and so on.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 2:41 am
i just realized how little informed i am...i never played kings field or demon souls....
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:43 am
lol you're not alone
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 2:45 am
I've played through Demon's Souls a few times, but I too have never played King's Field.

That isnt too surprising though. They're really rare outside of Japan, and even there they're rare. It's an old and difficult RPG for the PlayStation 1 that has 10-15 FPS, lol.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 2:48 am
dam...SO THATS WHY THE JAPANESE KNOW SO MUCH MORE!!

i should just move to japan to be a real gamer lol
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 2:55 am
Unrelated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh53Jn7L4iE&feature=related

LOL at the comments.

Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:00 am
So, i can confirm that Bountiful Sunlight does nothing. Maybe I need to use the other as well.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 3:01 am
haha i allways put amazing chest when i walk in lol
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 3:13 am
..Does anyone in the game ever at some point mention the Duke's Archives and Reah in the same breath? Is it ever explained why she goes there?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:16 am
actually its not
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 3:17 am
she is on somesort of mission...maybe its to free the pisacas
try droping the pendent by them and seeing if they pick it up or somin?
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 3:22 am
I actually dont have the Pendant.. Reah didnt drop it.

And the mission she was on that was talked about was to obtain the Rite of Kindling from Pinwheel.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 3:27 am
oh for sure

and ive tried lots of crazy **** with them pisicas ive put on the maiden set and ring and used both miracles by them...still nottin
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reaperfan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
reaperfan Nov 28, 2011 3:36 am
The deal with the Picasas is that Seath was kidnapping maidens and experimenting on them. The two Picasas that aren't hostile and drop the miracles are speculated to have been just recently experimented on as they're crying in anguish and/or pain as to what's happened to them. If Reah is allowed to live long enough with Petrus not killing her, then it's probably Seath finding out about her and taking her to the Archives, where she then hollows before anything is done to her. Now how she gets there if you've already killed Seath is a hole to that theory, but given that her hollowed form is in a locked cell (one that needs a special prison key even), I doubt she went there of her own accord.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 3:40 am
Hmm.. that would make sense..

But I wonder how Seath got a hold of Reah all the way from Anor Londo to the Undead Parish?
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 3:44 am
....he can fly
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 3:50 am
the lore or info on the channellers armors says they were also called snatchers..

as in they go out and kidnap helpless maidens who pray to a giant statues unawares of who might be behind them...

Stands to reason in game terms the channeller that was in the Parish which we all killed when we went to kill the gargoyles / first bell..

well he came back and took Reah to the dukes.. Snatched her right out parish..

and it's all your fault for placing the lordvessel and opening up the golden sealed doors.. cause while you were in some archaic grand basement looking at 11 lanterns and a second empty lordvessel in an unreachable area..

the channellers were dragging poor reah to Seaths hidden lab..

and Petrus didn't do nothin to help either.. he just ran away.. oh the grief..

I have played all the King's field games except the japanese ones that were not released in america... and all the original armored core games.. basically if From put it out back in 1994 to almost the present.. I played it..

whats funny is.. I did not play demon souls... no ps3..

thread related so non of the princess guild miracles had any effect on the maidens...

did you already kill seath.. ?
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 3:56 am
seath was alive when i did them
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reaperfan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
reaperfan Nov 28, 2011 3:59 am
I'd guess that Seath has connections and an information network outside the Archives. My guess is that Seath either created or just currently controls the Man-serpents, seeing as how they are the acting guards for the prison cells. Somehow word of Reah's presence, all by herself and removed from the group at Firelink, reached the Man-serpents at Sen's Fortress and Seath decided it was a good time as any to get another experiment subject. Now to fill the holes of:
1: How exactly is Seath related to the Man-serpents?
2: How does Reah show up in the Archives if you've already killed Seath?
3: As far as we know the only characters to ever know of Reah's escape are you, Petrus, the Crestfallen Warrior, and Reah herself, so how would someone in Seath's circle find out? (I suppose Patches may know of her escape, but I can't remember any dialogue of his saying he had knowledge of it, but knowing Patches, it seems characteristic of him to do something like this if he actually found out)
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reaperfan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
reaperfan Nov 28, 2011 4:02 am
@Glyphstone: I was writing mine as you were posting so I didn't read yours til afterwards, but that makes alot of sense.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 4:03 am
read up reaperfan.. it was all you're fault..

darkmerk .. go kill Seath.. and try the crying maidens again..the miracles I presume... being in the princess guild..
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 4:09 am
i killed seath last night and im in sunbros now
*** it ill rejoin i guess
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 4:14 am
no worries.. if you've ranked up in sunbros... you'll lose your rank.. so no huge need to...

the chaos bugs in lost izalith shortcut drop sunlight medals too btw

This is of course just for putting all the questions to rest..

this mystery has drivin me almost insane..
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 4:16 am
Maybe they took them from Solaire??
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 4:24 am
ive allready got the great lightning spear so im fine with it..

results equal natta
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 4:25 am
the miracles after seeth i mean

JohnnyHarpoon Nov 28, 2011 6:15 am
In terms of Rhea and Seath...Rhea also could have made it to Anor Londo herself, seeking the Dieties that remain there. Then, she was kidnapped by a Channeler and taken to the Archives. Or, she simply thought a God might be there and went herself.

Hell, she coulda gone Hollow in the Parish and made it all the way to Anor Londo...
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 28, 2011 6:31 am
lol just bumbling all through Sen's Fortress, making her way to the gargoyles, convincing them through grunts to lift her up and into Anor Londo, making her way past the guards and up into the archives, past all the crystal hollows and into the prison...
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The_Bearded_Man re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
The_Bearded_Man Nov 28, 2011 6:55 am
What about turning off the music that drives the pisacas out of the cell area before killing the two crying pisacas that drop miracles? Maybe something will happen then? Perhaps a talk option?
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TibetSandFox re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
TibetSandFox Nov 28, 2011 7:16 am
Where is the dark soul found by the furtive pygmy. It must be somewhere.
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reaperfan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
reaperfan Nov 28, 2011 7:35 am
@The_Bearded_Man: This is what I usually do actually, because sometimes when you fight them down there you attract the attention of the man-serpents above them before you're really ready. Unfortunately it does nothing special with them :\
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Firemann28 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Firemann28 Nov 28, 2011 10:04 am
can anyone tell me where the key is that opens the cell where all the pisacas are standing? i think there is a fire keepers soul in there but i just cant remember where the key is..
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Nov 28, 2011 10:35 am
Yo guys,

I'm made Seek Guidance part of my standart Miracles and starter to use it anywhere interesting. Actually runnig everywhere with THE miracle active and reading every message. Perhaps there will be a From message somewhere that will help. I'll keep you guys pistes of anything ANYTHING put of the ordinary happens.

Or has it already been tried? Then please tell me
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Nov 28, 2011 10:37 am
Pistes = posted... Dang autocorrect
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 12:21 pm
What!? The bugs drop Sunlight Medals!? I'm off to farm for hours now. Imma rank up as far as I can in the Sunbros.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 12:24 pm
@Firemann28: I'm doing that as well. I started yesterday and got nothing from the prisons in Duke's.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 12:37 pm
true were is the darksoul?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 12:45 pm
With the Pygmy. So if the rumours are true it's within you because you are a descendant of the pygmy or the pygmy is somewhere within the game and adding the Dark Soul to the Lordevessel will change the ending.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 12:51 pm
the easily forgotten pygmy has the black souls and humans are its descendent...humanity is a black soul?
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Aicos re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Aicos Nov 28, 2011 12:53 pm
the dark soul is the name of the final achievment, the one you get for all the other ones =D
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 12:56 pm
It'd be crazy if you had to get all achievements/trophies before unlocking an area.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 12:57 pm
quick unrelated

were can i get some fan art of darksouls...(hentai)
DONT JUDGE ME!!
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Aicos re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Aicos Nov 28, 2011 1:01 pm
well, some games unlock stuff by having certain achievment/trophies, maybe this is the case?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 1:04 pm
Maybe. I got all achievements though and nothings happened. There are some areas i want to check still though. I haven't been back to the lower burg yet to try the blocked path.

@Darkmerk: judge judge judge judge honestly, I don't know. I've seen fan art fan art but nothing to your, uh, tastes.
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Aicos re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Aicos Nov 28, 2011 1:10 pm
by the way, can the covenant of artorias be traded? wouldn't thet break the game?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 1:14 pm
Only if you haven't beat the four kings. you beat them and it's no longer needed.

Aicos Nov 28, 2011 1:18 pm
can someone try this theory? i would myself but i'm currently in final exams (shouldn't be here either)

NG+, don't kill any boss, not even the taurus demon, try to summon someone who is willing to trade the covenant of artorias, go straight for the 4 kings killing ingward, DON'T ring any of the bells of awakening.

has anyone tried this?
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Aicos re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Aicos Nov 28, 2011 1:20 pm
side note: getting the master key so you can skip the taurus demon and go straight to darkroot basin, where i guess are more chances of summoning someone with the covenant of artorias
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halfbeast re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
halfbeast Nov 28, 2011 1:53 pm
I'm loving this thread!

I will try things too now, that I have platinum'd the game and can concentrate on the story/secrets in this game. haven't interacted much with the NPCs to be honest, feel like I missed out on a lot of stuff.

reading through all(!) of your posts, here's a crazy idea:

know how you create your character, well of course you do. but ever wondered why those pre-customized face options have fancy names like "Astora Noble"? - and here's where the crazy idea comes from, what if even this has an impact on your playthrough? remember how rhea's dudes (and rhea herself) talk about your looks when you first meet them in firelink? at first, I thought it's because I'm hollow, they said the same thing when I was in human form too. so, what if you go as a pure Astora Noble and talk to them?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 1:56 pm
I never looked at that. Mainly because I have an old 90s television so its hard to read lol
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:02 pm
Dammit, I can't concentrate in school work. I guess I'll be pulling an all-nighter lol. I'm gonna go draw a bit or farm Sunlight Medals. i'll let you guys know if i find anything in a high rank in the Sunbros.
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Klayde re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Klayde Nov 28, 2011 2:30 pm
Has anyone tried to break down a wall with Vamos's Hammer/Pick?

I mean I read a lot about a fully upgraded weapon being able to break a wall but, from what I can remember. He broke a wall with that weapon to open a shortcut.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 2:54 pm
Klayde.. Vamos used the pick axe to smach down the wall in his forge..

I have a fully +15 pick axe, and a fully +5 Vamos Hammer.. been smashing all the walls and no change...

on right now, sl 120, xbox360 Glyphblade... looking for a covenant of artorias ring.. if anyone has one they don't need... meaning already used , did 4 kings.. and wanna drop on me before they new game.. because you don't keep the ring for new game +.

same with the charred orange ring.

I'm at ceasless right now.. dying... a whole lot...

Homing soul mass and ring shield, iron flesh etc... all before 1.05... easy as cake.. but now he's all lucky one shotting me.. damn
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:58 pm
Um, i would but can't. SL164 and on NG+++. I can tell you how to beat Ceasless. Stay in the little tunnels preferably where they meet. And face towards the lava area opposite of where ceaseless was laying. When he's about to attack roll backwards then run up and mash at his arm once it lands. Rinse and repeat.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 3:01 pm
if someone helps me with the four kings ill give them my artoris ring im sl125 psn..i really wanna try that theory out

also my theory of killing four kings with both artorias wep and sheild before going to siff while wereing them all and cov ring of course see if he accepts you then?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:01 pm
So, I just got rank 3 in Chaos servant. The whole time I had the old witches ring on. Once I gained rank 3 she sounded well happy. she said the same thing over and over when i ranked up but on the third rank up she sounded better, I'm gonna look for some areas that may have been unlocked now, Dunno if I'll find anything but it's worth a shot.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 3:02 pm
oh I know how to kill him.. like the gaping dragon.. you think you're far enuff away.. but your not.. and he one shots..

basically not giving him enuff distance.. hell I just found out about the bottomless pit kill so.. yeah.. he'll die..

where are you at in the game digital.. and are you on xbox?

I might be able to invade you.. lower levels can invade higher levels..

My ingame xbox sign is glyphblade..

anything you need?
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 3:04 pm
heya darkmerk..

I was using the true great sword of Artorias, and popped Artorias shield and went to visit sif..

Of course.. you need the ring and the only way to get it is to kill him...

so hence the can I purty please have someones ole ring..
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:04 pm
and holy cow, thank you Glyphstone for letting me know that the bugs drop sunlight medals
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Drethan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Drethan Nov 28, 2011 3:05 pm
I'm convinced that Rhea is getting kidnapped by a Channaller. Anyone tried going to her dressed as a Channaler? Or better yet, letting her go there before killing the channeler who has been looking towards where she is praying? Maybe Petrus himself is a channeler? lol, probably not but anyways.. Besides, she also ends up in the Archives after he is killed if you buy all her miracles. So, stratch that idea.

Those theories aside, what frightens me most is that most of the events in the game requires you to wait a lot of time. Like "curling up like a ball" and lying in the coffin for like a minute to get transported to Nito's area. I didn't wait at all when I was trying to find a secret. And I probably would not wait now too. If that's the case, well,.. I'll be pissed a lot.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:06 pm
Don't forget Wolf ring. THat was also one of his.

Um I am currently at Demon's Ruins but I beat the game all the way to the Kiln. Now I'm just running around.
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Drethan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Drethan Nov 28, 2011 3:10 pm
Also, I've read that if you drop the abyss ring online, other players will not be able to see it. I'm not sure how correct that info was but I'm pretty sure I read it somewhere. Also, if that was the case, would it reappear in the chest in Firelink? Another thing: what happens when you drop it after you kill Gywn and quit from the game? Does it go to Firelink and does it stay there on NG+?
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 3:11 pm
I found out like 5 minutes after 1.05 update.. I was in the area.. going the back route to the shortcut from the other side.. looking for solaire.. I had not opened the shortcut ..

got a sunlight medal.. thought it was cause solaire died..

also.. I was gravelord rank 2.. touched the door and it opened..

I made a post about it too..

Thats why I wanna be forest hunter rank 2.. and see if any covenant rank 2 will open the short cut now...

being rank 3 in chaos.. did you get a message pop up.. good job.. you can give her 99 humanity.. it will max out and you won't be able to offer any more

I did it with kaathe .. Darkwraith rank 3.. then kept dumping humanity into him... he or an ingame message screen popped up top right hand corner.. and said well done, good job.. humanity full..

so if you have 19 more humanity.. dump it too the spider.. and see what she says..

also good job man
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:13 pm
Unfortunately I don't. I need more but I can always farm the baby skeletons in the Tomb of the Giants. Once i'm done with my research in the Chaos I'm moving onto Warrior of Sunlight.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 3:13 pm
I dropped both the rings.. charred and abyss .. killed gwyn, started new game.. and the firelink chest was empty..

so somewhere.. the in game janitor must have taken the rings back and all that...

likely that crestfallen warrior guy..
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 3:21 pm
@drethan
if the other player cant see the ring that would punch a big hole in my theory

Aicos Nov 28, 2011 1:18 pm
can someone try this theory? i would myself but i'm currently in final exams (shouldn't be here either)

NG+, don't kill any boss, not even the taurus demon, try to summon someone who is willing to trade the covenant of artorias, go straight for the 4 kings killing ingward, DON'T ring any of the bells of awakening.

has anyone tried this?
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Aicos re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Aicos Nov 28, 2011 1:20 pm
side note: getting the master key so you can skip the taurus demon and go straight to darkroot basin, where i guess are more chances of summoning someone with the covenant of artorias
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halfbeast re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
halfbeast Nov 28, 2011 1:53 pm
I'm loving this thread!

I will try things too now, that I have platinum'd the game and can concentrate on the story/secrets in this game. haven't interacted much with the NPCs to be honest, feel like I missed out on a lot of stuff.

reading through all(!) of your posts, here's a crazy idea:

know how you create your character, well of course you do. but ever wondered why those pre-customized face options have fancy names like "Astora Noble"? - and here's where the crazy idea comes from, what if even this has an impact on your playthrough? remember how rhea's dudes (and rhea herself) talk about your looks when you first meet them in firelink? at first, I thought it's because I'm hollow, they said the same thing when I was in human form too. so, what if you go as a pure Astora Noble and talk to them?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 1:56 pm
I never looked at that. Mainly because I have an old 90s television so its hard to read lol
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:02 pm
Dammit, I can't concentrate in school work. I guess I'll be pulling an all-nighter lol. I'm gonna go draw a bit or farm Sunlight Medals. i'll let you guys know if i find anything in a high rank in the Sunbros.
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Klayde re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Klayde Nov 28, 2011 2:30 pm
Has anyone tried to break down a wall with Vamos's Hammer/Pick?

I mean I read a lot about a fully upgraded weapon being able to break a wall but, from what I can remember. He broke a wall with that weapon to open a shortcut.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 2:54 pm
Klayde.. Vamos used the pick axe to smach down the wall in his forge..

I have a fully +15 pick axe, and a fully +5 Vamos Hammer.. been smashing all the walls and no change...

on right now, sl 120, xbox360 Glyphblade... looking for a covenant of artorias ring.. if anyone has one they don't need... meaning already used , did 4 kings.. and wanna drop on me before they new game.. because you don't keep the ring for new game +.

same with the charred orange ring.

I'm at ceasless right now.. dying... a whole lot...

Homing soul mass and ring shield, iron flesh etc... all before 1.05... easy as cake.. but now he's all lucky one shotting me.. damn
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 2:58 pm
Um, i would but can't. SL164 and on NG+++. I can tell you how to beat Ceasless. Stay in the little tunnels preferably where they meet. And face towards the lava area opposite of where ceaseless was laying. When he's about to attack roll backwards then run up and mash at his arm once it lands. Rinse and repeat.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 3:01 pm
if someone helps me with the four kings ill give them my artoris ring im sl125 psn..i really wanna try that theory out

also my theory of killing four kings with both artorias wep and sheild before going to siff while wereing them all and cov ring of course see if he accepts you then?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:01 pm
So, I just got rank 3 in Chaos servant. The whole time I had the old witches ring on. Once I gained rank 3 she sounded well happy. she said the same thing over and over when i ranked up but on the third rank up she sounded better, I'm gonna look for some areas that may have been unlocked now, Dunno if I'll find anything but it's worth a shot.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 3:02 pm
oh I know how to kill him.. like the gaping dragon.. you think you're far enuff away.. but your not.. and he one shots..

basically not giving him enuff distance.. hell I just found out about the bottomless pit kill so.. yeah.. he'll die..

where are you at in the game digital.. and are you on xbox?

I might be able to invade you.. lower levels can invade higher levels..

My ingame xbox sign is glyphblade..

anything you need?
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 3:04 pm
heya darkmerk..

I was using the true great sword of Artorias, and popped Artorias shield and went to visit sif..

Of course.. you need the ring and the only way to get it is to kill him...

so hence the can I purty please have someones ole ring..
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:04 pm
and holy cow, thank you Glyphstone for letting me know that the bugs drop sunlight medals
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Drethan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Drethan Nov 28, 2011 3:05 pm
I'm convinced that Rhea is getting kidnapped by a Channaller. Anyone tried going to her dressed as a Channaler? Or better yet, letting her go there before killing the channeler who has been looking towards where she is praying? Maybe Petrus himself is a channeler? lol, probably not but anyways.. Besides, she also ends up in the Archives after he is killed if you buy all her miracles. So, stratch that idea.

Those theories aside, what frightens me most is that most of the events in the game requires you to wait a lot of time. Like "curling up like a ball" and lying in the coffin for like a minute to get transported to Nito's area. I didn't wait at all when I was trying to find a secret. And I probably would not wait now too. If that's the case, well,.. I'll be pissed a lot.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:06 pm
Don't forget Wolf ring. THat was also one of his.

Um I am currently at Demon's Ruins but I beat the game all the way to the Kiln. Now I'm just running around.
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Drethan re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Drethan Nov 28, 2011 3:10 pm
Also, I've read that if you drop the abyss ring online, other players will not be able to see it. I'm not sure how correct that info was but I'm pretty sure I read it somewhere. Also, if that was the case, would it reappear in the chest in Firelink? Another thing: what happens when you drop it after you kill Gywn and quit from the game? Does it go to Firelink and does it stay there on NG+?
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 3:11 pm
I found out like 5 minutes after 1.05 update.. I was in the area.. going the back route to the shortcut from the other side.. looking for solaire.. I had not opened the shortcut ..

got a sunlight medal.. thought it was cause solaire died..

also.. I was gravelord rank 2.. touched the door and it opened..

I made a post about it too..

Thats why I wanna be forest hunter rank 2.. and see if any covenant rank 2 will open the short cut now...

being rank 3 in chaos.. did you get a message pop up.. good job.. you can give her 99 humanity.. it will max out and you won't be able to offer any more

I did it with kaathe .. Darkwraith rank 3.. then kept dumping humanity into him... he or an ingame message screen popped up top right hand corner.. and said well done, good job.. humanity full..

so if you have 19 more humanity.. dump it too the spider.. and see what she says..

also good job man
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 3:13 pm
Unfortunately I don't. I need more but I can always farm the baby skeletons in the Tomb of the Giants. Once i'm done with my research in the Chaos I'm moving onto Warrior of Sunlight.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 3:13 pm
I dropped both the rings.. charred and abyss .. killed gwyn, started new game.. and the firelink chest was empty..

so somewhere.. the in game janitor must have taken the rings back and all that...

likely that crestfallen warrior guy..
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 3:21 pm
@drethan
if the other player cant see the ring that would punch a big hole in my theory

Firemann28 Nov 28, 2011 5:14 pm
just another thought, kill all npcs in the game. EVERYONE U CAN THINK OF. blacksmiths, logan, rhea, oscar, catarina + daughter, etc. see what happens. even convenant hosts. i'm going buck wild
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 5:29 pm
when reah go to the dukes.. she is hollow.. and petrus won't kill her.. he kills her before she goes hollow.. If you don't buy all of her miracles.. like leave homeward un bought from her.. she will stay there the whole game.. unless petey does her in..

the grief... indeed..

I have an extra pendant if your on 360.. sl 120 range..

I am in the kiln now.. 5:30 pm est.. looking for a summon to see if I can get anyones abyss ring / orange charred ring combo..

glyphblade, xbox 360, lvl 120
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The_Bearded_Man re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
The_Bearded_Man Nov 28, 2011 5:52 pm
I'm on ps3, but thanks for the offer. If anyone else wants to trade the pendant with me I'm soul level 146. Otherwise in my next playthrough I just rescue reah but don't buy all her miracles and petrus should eventually try to kill her, is that correct?
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 6:08 pm
yes bearded man.. so long as reah still has miracles to sell.. and Petrus is still alive..
he'll kill reah.. and you a pendant.. and 7 humanity

of course you could join forest hunters.. and chance getting a pendant as a looted item for your kill..
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anson1986 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
anson1986 Nov 28, 2011 6:35 pm
So here's an idea. I agree that the pendant should be linked to Solaire given that it's description has been left the same as the sunlight medallions even with the patches. Obviously if the creators wanted to change the description, they could have. It would seem that the time to give the medallion to Solaire is in Izalith when he is talking about his efforts to find something having been in vain. I have seen that people have talked about trying to use the pendant but has anyone tried dropping it in front of him and reloading the game allowing him to "find" his pendant? If that doesn't work, since you start th game in the covenant that you ended in, has anyone tried playing a runthrough where they started in the SunBros, stayed in the SunBros, ranked all the way up in the SunBros (may be a requirement and the reason they added the ability to farm medallions) and then tried dropping the pendant? I am in college and it's getting to exam time so I don't have time to check (I also killed Solaire on my current playthrough) so it would take some time before I could ever try this. Someone had mentioned using seek guidance...have they tried using this near Solaire in Izalith when he is feeling lost? This is the last time he appears as an NPC that you can interact with. I used him all through my first play through even in the fight with Gwen. This particular encounter stuck out like a sore thumb and I really think that if Solaire is tied to the great pendant mystery that this is the point where the key action needs to take place. Also, thank you Glyphstone, this is the most exciting thread...ever. Even if none of it is true, this has been a fun read.
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anson1986 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
anson1986 Nov 28, 2011 6:42 pm
Gwynn..sorry
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 6:43 pm
i will be testing all the solaire pendant idea's in my current playthrough...

I just need to get summoned into someones world to see if I can pick up their artorias ring / charred ring..

I glitched into the kiln early.. hoping it would be the best bet to test this.. and et summoned cause by that point no one needs either item anymore..

don't wanna leave cause I really don't wanna do it again and risk corupting my save..

sl 120, 360, glyphblade
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freakgib re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
freakgib Nov 28, 2011 6:49 pm
Hi there Guys not sure if the idee i have has been mentiont.
the Pendant has to do something about Memory right.
could it not be that she want's to save her own soul and when she is killed by Petrus u get the Pendant with here memory's and the next round give it back to her in the duke Archives where she get insane and when she see's u carring the pendant everything becomes clear again ?
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Scudman_Slayer re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Scudman_Slayer Nov 28, 2011 6:52 pm
@freakgib

that doesn't work because if petrus kill her well its over oyu won't see her for the rest of the plythrough
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anson1986 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
anson1986 Nov 28, 2011 6:57 pm
also has anyone tried giving the ring of the sun's first born to solaire or wearing it while talking to him...something along those lines. If he is looking for something, and we speculate that he is indeed the firstborn...maybe he's looking for his ring
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Firemann28 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Firemann28 Nov 28, 2011 7:35 pm
all great ideas guys, keep em coming. will definitely try a few.
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Solrak_Selarom re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Solrak_Selarom Nov 28, 2011 7:44 pm
@fireman28

In my actual playthrough i follow all those steps, just need to be with hollowed rhea... I shall try ir and say to you guys.

I already Bougth 99 prism, so i Will see if i find something at the abyss
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anson1986 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
anson1986 Nov 28, 2011 7:48 pm
Doing a little searching on them thar interwebs and I came across this https://youtu.be/auggNRdDCZI it's Kaathe telling the story of the pygmy and the age of dark yada yada. I chose the pendant as my gift and therefore have always had it. Kaathe also told me that story...does he not tell that story if you don't have the pendant and is this the great mystery of the pendant? Can someone confirm that he tells this story without the pendant?
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 28, 2011 7:51 pm
I've heard it without having a pendant.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 7:52 pm
same
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 8:32 pm
So, I finally gave her the last bit of humanity. Nothing special but she sounded relieved or something. Can't figure any area that'd be open after that.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 8:34 pm
On a side note a funny glitch. While talking to an npc use the binoculars. then try to walk.
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Solrak_Selarom re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Solrak_Selarom Nov 28, 2011 8:50 pm
Nothing... Rhea attacked me and i tried to use the pendant in the re and Nothing... Then went down and tried to use the pendant in every place and Nothing... Hmmmm... This is sad
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Solrak_Selarom re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Solrak_Selarom Nov 28, 2011 8:50 pm
Nothing... Rhea attacked me and i tried to use the pendant in the re and Nothing... Then went down and tried to use the pendant in every place and Nothing... Hmmmm... This is sad
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 8:55 pm
So I can still offer her humanity beyond the 99?

darkmerk Nov 28, 2011 9:22 pm
quick side note you can also steal humanity from npcs without them getting hostile like 4 times...just saying
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 9:35 pm
I think I'm done with the Chaos Servant. Guess I'm moving onto the Sunbros. Got 11 sunlight medals off those bugs in Izalith
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 28, 2011 9:37 pm
Maybe you'll get lucky and that giant door in the Centipede demons lair will open :3
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 9:39 pm
Tried it. Hopefully it works with the sunbros because Solaire was down there. By the way, I hear he's still glitched. Is it true?
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 28, 2011 9:41 pm
I have absolutely no clue if he's glitched still because every time I use him I eventually get pissed off at how terrible of a job he does at helping and kill him.

This run I have right now is the only one time where I haven't killed him every time I see him.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 9:45 pm
How far are you? As long as I know that he appears in Anor Londo then he's fixed.
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 28, 2011 9:49 pm
I'm only in NG on my main character for now (which is the only one I've been playing with after the patch)

I've seen him at all his locations in NG if that helps by any chance.

Oh and for Sens Fortress right underneath the Iron Golem the stairs, rooftop, walls, and everything below it are completely solid. I used my Bow and Arrow character and went up to the hidden golem (the one that opens the gates to sens fortress) and shot arrows all around there, it is all solid. Too bad arrows can't break open hidden passages.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 9:56 pm
oh. He's fine on Ng but NG+ and up is when he's glitched
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 28, 2011 10:01 pm
Digital.. I had solaire in the O+S fight before the lordvessel..

he was at the bon fire in anor londo and was quite taken by my interest in him.. why I might even have a crush on him... is what he said..

(he says that all the time though )

so for new game +'s.. solaire appears to be working as intended..

so in the centipede room.. the big ole doorway..with fully maxed chaos servant rank.. and you didn't see any change eh?

hmm..

I have collected all the lord souls.. and went back there.. before opening the kiln..so ran all the other tests, aside from no chaos rank

hmm..
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 28, 2011 10:02 pm
Yeah, no change in chaos rank. I'll try it with Sunbros now.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 29, 2011 2:32 am
So, I got +2 rank in Sunbros. Nothing so far.
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freakgib re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
freakgib Nov 29, 2011 6:54 am
what wil happen if u let rhea Kill u in the Dukes while u have the Pendant
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Nov 29, 2011 9:41 am
Just want to let you guys know there are no Seek Guidance revelations in new londo ruins, asylum, depths and burgh. Covered it all with SG and nothing, so no one has to try it again. I'm off to blight town to cover it with SG. Updates pending
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Solrak_Selarom re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Solrak_Selarom Nov 29, 2011 10:34 am

About Rhea in the Dukes... I noticed that she didnt drop the pendant... so maybe someone steal it from her and thats the why she went hollow... i think that you have to buy all the miracles from her in the burg and then drop or gave her the pendant... maybe that way she doesnt go hollow in the dukes no!?

Any opinions!?
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The_Bearded_Man re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
The_Bearded_Man Nov 29, 2011 10:39 am
You don't get the pendant if you just kill her when she's in human form, right? Maybe the pendant is somehow tied to Petrus..
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 29, 2011 11:12 am
Hear rumour that Petrus killed her in the church and leaves the pendant as an offering for the gods or something. I also heard that he collected 'trinkets'
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Firemann28 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Firemann28 Nov 29, 2011 12:18 pm
has anyone tried dropping the pendant for solaire in lost izalith when he is all depressed at the bonfire right after the centipede demon boss fight?
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DemonKid re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
DemonKid Nov 29, 2011 12:59 pm
Nope lol i'll try that though
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Razor2202 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Razor2202 Nov 29, 2011 1:05 pm
Update on the strange potential secret walls:

I went down to the suspect wall in the back of the Centipede's chamber. The large one with the crack that looks very similar to the Lord Vessel door.

I have filled the lord vessel and opened the door to the kiln, the door is still closed.

I attacked the wall several times with a maxed out Divine Claymore, Fire Greatsword, and Lightning Winged Spear. Also took a maxed out Golem Axe, Astora's Straight Sword, and Dragon Slayer's Spear. None of them had any effect on it.

Tried casting a few spells on it as well. Fire Tempest, Fire orb, Fire Whip, Chaos Fire Whip, Emit Force, Lightning Spear, Great Fireball. No dice.

I am on my first play through, no pendant.

Keep on testing guys!
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Razor2202 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Razor2202 Nov 29, 2011 1:19 pm
CONFIRMED: Short cut in Lost Izalith that leads you out behind the Sunlight Maggots and the respawning titanite Demon WILL open for you if you are Rank 2 with the Warriors of Sunlight (will read Warrior of Sunlight +1 in your status.)

Time for me to start a NG+ and try to save Solaire this time through...

Firemann28 Nov 29, 2011 1:25 pm
good find! try letting the centipide demon hit the wall for you. maybe that will break it? i think i mentioned this earlier.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 29, 2011 1:25 pm
*sigh* I thought as much. I'm going to go ahead and assume that every Covenant that has rank will eventually open up this passage.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 29, 2011 1:27 pm
Still, I'm gonna rank up to 3+ and see if I can do anything.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 29, 2011 1:58 pm
already stated in earleir posts that the short cut door should open if you are rank 2 in any covenant..

I was gravelord rank 2 and got it to open..

So if a sun bro rank 2 can also open it.. then any rank 2 should..

I think this was changed for patch 1.05..

or it had always been that way and we went chaos cov rank 2 cause thats we were told..

though dark wraith rank 2 did not seem to open the door.. so 1.05..

I am forest hunter currently.. when I get rank 2 I am trying the door..

The short cut door.. not the centipede door..

also will be letting the centipede attack the door and see what happens there.

Thanks for the update and confirm Orrin510.. good find..
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 29, 2011 2:03 pm
If that's the case, I'm moving on in my theory. I'm going to full rank in Sunbros and beat Gwyn to move on to NG++++ and get Solaire to move. I want him in Izalith.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Nov 29, 2011 3:26 pm
really...you can open it in sunbros...

i was rank 3 last playthrough and didnt try to lol
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 29, 2011 4:46 pm
I am working out the if any covenant rank 2 will open.. using forest hunters because they are neutral..

if it works with them.. it will likely work with them all

But so far confirmed - Chaos rank 2, Sun Bro rank 2, and Gravelord Rank 2.

Easy enuff - any other covenant rank 2 wanna go see if they can open the door..

The only other covenants are Forest Hunter, Dark Moon, Dragon and Dark Wraith that have rank..

Princess and Way of the White .. maybe faith level based.. or wear the rings while in the covenant.. Way of the Princess Guard ring to boost resonance..while being in princess cov.. and White Sceance Ring while being in way of the white..

Still need a summon into someones world on Xbox 360, to see if the Artorias ring and the charred ring can be dropped and looted..

Changed my wiki name to my xbox account name - glyphblade..

we need game sigs here... on the wiki ...
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Razor2202 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Razor2202 Nov 29, 2011 5:48 pm
Well... ****. I might have been a little over zealous with my post about sun bros opening izalith shortcut. Before hen I opened it was wih my knight character and i opened it from the titanite demon side. I had cleared all the way up to the kiln.

I just tried it from the firesage demon side with my mage character who just recently hit sun bros +1 ( same as my knight I thought) and it DID NOT open for me. I have not yet cleared the firesage demon.

I will do some more research on this and get back to ya all. Maybe I was mistaken and my knight was sun bros +2? Possibly post parch it opens for any one from the titanite demon side regardless of covenant or level? Anyone care to test that?

This frustrates me as I'm trying to save solaire this play through :/

More info to chew on...
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Mr.Saxobeat re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Mr.Saxobeat Nov 29, 2011 6:18 pm
I will try the doors at Anor Londo since im Level 3 in darkmoon convenant
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inksoldier re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
inksoldier Nov 29, 2011 8:22 pm
I read all 19 pages of this very interesting discussion, very entertaining keep up the good work guys, I will try to figure some of the myths too because I really want to discover all the hidden things in this game Will update!
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 29, 2011 8:30 pm
Alright I've finished leveling up my Giant's armour to +5 and everything and got the symbol of avarice in just 10 Lloyds talismans with full 410 Item finding. I'm going to move onto the Dukes Archives for a Trident and also attempt to use the seek guidance miracle in certain places such as in the Crystal Cave because that place is just humongous and seems a lot larger than it actually is with these limited paths.
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halfbeast re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
halfbeast Nov 29, 2011 9:52 pm
started a new character, chose knight (he is way of white from beginning, plus has the prayer gesture at start as well), took the Priest of Thorolund Face option and went with the Pendant as gift.

Rhea and her buddies said the same thing, so my crazy idea was just a crazy idea. v_v

what do I have to do to get solaire making me join the sunbros?
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 29, 2011 10:00 pm
Have a Faith of 25, Or have assisted (via co-op) other players with the area boss enough times to equal the difference between your current faith rating and 25, with each assist equaling 5.

As for Solaire appearing there himself, I cant remember when that happens, but its at a specific point in the game.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 29, 2011 11:30 pm
so razor.. I did the door from behind at rank 2 gravelord.. and it opened.. obviosuly couldn't try it from the front.

But in patch 1.03 it would not open from the back either.. it was still locked by some contraption unless we had the rank 2.. wether it is chaos cov.. or any..


I am rank 2 forest hunter now.. I just need a summon into someone who has the abyss ring and wants to drop it.. see if I can loot it..

and then I can get on to the rest..
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 29, 2011 11:37 pm
Damn, your calls for assistance are breaking my heart glyph, lol. Most of us are on PS3, yet you're on 360..

I really hope for the next wave of consoles, theres some way to connect the servers cross-platform.

But I see it as very unlikely.. after all, Xbox Live from the start has always been a closed network run by Microsoft alone, and I dont see them realistically changing their entire format.
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Razor2202 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Razor2202 Nov 30, 2011 12:06 am
Ok, couple of things I tried tonight:

I encountered solaire at the bonfire just after the centipede demon. He was his usual down self, asking why can't he find "it". Couple of things I tried:
-dropping the pendant in front of him.
-dropping the pendant in front of him and waiting for over a minute.
-dropping the pendant in front of him and reloading (ala snuggles.) Pendant disappeared but seemed to have no effect on him. His speach was the same. (had a spare pendant. )

I was sunbro rank 1 for all tests.

So there is that. I had already opened the short cut (had to quickly join the chaos cov. Then switched back) and killed all 9 sun maggots. I traded the helm to snuggly as I wanted the ring to see what the white witch said. Had I still had the sunlight maggot helm in my possession I would have tried talking to solaire with it on. Can anyone try this?

More to come...


I love this game. Even if we never figure this out or there ends up being no secret this will still have all been a bladt and truly unique game experience.

Course, there better be a secret in all this, lol...
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 30, 2011 12:21 am
Im almost certain there is something in this game not one player has discovered yet.

The Pendant has a purpose. It has a use. I can feel it in my heart of hearts.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 30, 2011 12:27 am
So I got frustrated playing Revelations and decided to switch back to Dark Souls. I have a Sunlight Helm that I can try. Won't be until next game though.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 30, 2011 2:08 am
good tests though razor2202.

we all wanted to know what would happen to solaire and the pendant at that point..

so kudo's.. even if it was an epic fail..
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 30, 2011 2:19 am
You know, I heard it's possible to keep Siegmeier alive at the end of his story on Ash Lake. I've tried and failed even though i followed the guideline exact. I'm just wondering if anyone here has gotten him to Ash Lake alive.

glyphblade Nov 30, 2011 2:58 am
hey Noctes..

you can lead the charge on the ps3.. get someone to summon you into their world.. and get them to drop the covenant of artorias ring and the charred orange ring..

First thing to this theory is if it will work..

so a cookie to who ever finds out first..
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 30, 2011 3:11 am
I could do this, but first I need to find time to get on.
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mindragon73 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
mindragon73 Nov 30, 2011 6:16 am
I was rereading an old (march) interview with Miyazaki on the article page: http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Articles+%26+Interviews

It says the following:
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Secret routes and locations have also been discussed. From Software inadvertently reveals one to us in a place aptly named Trap Road
"Player death does not have him transform into a ghost, but instead he finds himself in an alternate part of the area and discovers a tunnel to a secret location".
Miyazaki is keen to point out the tunnel leads to an even harsher environment as punishment for slipping off the rail and dying.
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What is he talking about here? Something that never got implemented in the game? Or is he refering to Sen´s Fortress and the secret ladder leading up to the chain-pulling giant?
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Razor2202 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Razor2202 Nov 30, 2011 11:32 am
Small update:

Ran into Solaire in the hall of the Sunlight Maggots (the short cut.) As I had opened the hall before and killed the 9th maggot, Solaire was sitting there depressed but un-hollowed.

-I spoke to him with the Pendant in my inventory. No dice. Pendant was not useable either.
-I dropped the pendant in front of him. Waited for over two minutes. No dice.
-Tried a few gestures too: Praise the sun, prayer, prostration. No effect.

I did not drop pendant and reload game as I only have one left. Maybe someone else can give this a shot

Tried dropping a sunlight medal in front of him as well. No effect.

I wonder if you were to cast SUNLIGHT SWORD (the miracle) in front of him, or speak to him dressed in the dark sun's armor if it would have any effect?

Another thing I noticed that I think could have a big impact on our research: Has anyone else noticed that the pendant cannot be equipped in a quick use slot? I was thinking I'd run the entire game with it in my quick use slot and see if it lit up anywhere such as the Cracked Blue Eye Orb does when you are near the magic spot in Anor Londo. It dosen't let you do it. Very curious. Still, I'm thinking that it has a use. The Old Witch's Ring says "seemingly useless" but will still give you a bit of story when used with the chaos witch. I imagine that the pendant has a similar effect. Maybe we just have to use it in the proper place. I will start checking my inventory to see if the USE ITEM option for the pendant is no longer crossed out. Maybe we can start a list of places we need to / have tried?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 30, 2011 11:38 am
Here's something I noticed about the pendant: when you are creating your character and you select it, it appears in the quick slot on the character creation screen but once the game begins it cannot be equipped. Was there a point when it was meant to be a quick slot item and it was changed or is this an oversight of the creators?

@Glyphblade: O have a new character that I will use to help ya. Currently level 22.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 30, 2011 11:41 am
*I
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old__red re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
old__red Nov 30, 2011 12:41 pm
i've been following the solaire route this playthrough and i've just spoken to him at the sunlight alter. he mentions the tomb of giants as a possible location after lost izalith, could this be something? is it confirmed that he does not appear there? i will try going through izalith before killing nito to check.

keep up the good work guys.
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old__red re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
old__red Nov 30, 2011 1:08 pm
also, something else i've noticed this playthrough is that you can only hold one of each fire keepers soul at a time. this maybe connected to finding out the pendants use after ng+ due to players not needing to pick them up on subsequent playthroughs.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 30, 2011 1:25 pm
I have three or had three at one time. They just didn't stack like arrows or the estus flask.
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balmungmp5 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
balmungmp5 Nov 30, 2011 1:33 pm
the official guide says the pendant is just for trading with snuggly...
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 30, 2011 1:42 pm
Official guides don't tell you everything. example, I looked an official guide for Halo Reach. it only told you about a quarter of all the armour in the game. About 75% was absent in the guide.
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anson1986 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
anson1986 Nov 30, 2011 2:26 pm
@minidraon73 I think Trap Road is an area in Sen's Fortress. A little internet hunting revealed descriptions and still shots that were most definitely in Sen's. I think Trap Road was the working name for Sen's Fortress. This page's description of trap road pretty much proves that
http://www.princeofpersia3d.com/overview-dark-souls-on-the-xbox-360.html The one thing that does stick out is that the creator mentions a place where you roll off a rail and don't die. Considering that at the time of production Sen's was (presumably) being referred to as Trap Road, it is also possible that this magical rail place doesn't exist in the final product. Though it is also possible that the secret to the pendant doesn't exist either. But that would suck. I prefer to keep looking. I'll see if I find anything else
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Acid_Rabbitz re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Acid_Rabbitz Nov 30, 2011 3:49 pm
Ever tried trading pendants with another player..


Maybe something could happen..if not already tried
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 30, 2011 5:09 pm
I remember someone saying they were going to traverse the abyss and see if it holds any secrets. I can safely say there is nothing there but the bonfire and Kaathe. I used the Sunlight Maggot helm and walked the perimeter. With it on you can see the walls and floor just barely but only through the light. It doesn't illuminate the area. The floor is brick and the walls are poor graphics stretched across. Probably the brick design. Also the actual floor is a ways below you because I went near Kaathe, I could see his body going down lower into the floor, and the bonfire, which appeared to be floating.
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 30, 2011 6:35 pm
Also the Lost Izalith shortcut can be opened by anything if you go from the way you kill solaire.

Opened it from the back at +0 rank in Sunbros.
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Nov 30, 2011 7:06 pm
Update:

Done covering Great hollow, Ash lake, Abys and Valley of drakes with Seek Guidence. No special messages from...well...From
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anson1986 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
anson1986 Nov 30, 2011 7:30 pm
@Siahailatua from From. Lol. Don't no why but amidst the frustration that is trying to discover the secret of the pendant, that cracked me up.
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 30, 2011 9:07 pm
I just beat the Taurus Demon and without ringing any bells defeated Sif, and The Four kings. Interesting fact: The bonfire that you rest at at the four kings allows you to warp to places that can be warped too (Firelink shrine, sunlight shrine (the one below the hellkite dragon)) so as you can get out of there without even having the lord vessel.

Anyways NG+ four kings were a pain even with full giant armour set maxed. Oh Kaathe also says that your journey starts with the lord vessel and getting it. To speak more would be speaking prematurely.

Now Darkwraith +1 so I can invade for fun.
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anson1986 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
anson1986 Nov 30, 2011 9:45 pm
what if you never take the firekeeper soul where reah pops up later?
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 30, 2011 10:06 pm
Hmm.. what if that "Trap Road" part of the interview mentioned above was that area in Sen's Fortress, after you get to the area where the giant is throwing the giant firebombs at you, where you can run and jump across to the caged-floor area (just before the bridge you run across to get to the boss fog).

Does going down that area lead to anywhere specifically that cant be reached any other way?

Dustofsaturn Nov 30, 2011 10:20 pm
I haven't picked up that fire keepers soul nor have I killed the channeler there. I've also been jumping down to my death in sens fortress to possibly unlock something but so far... nothing

Oh and that grate area just lets you fall onto a metal pole thing which leads no where

Anyways just defeated the Iron Golem so tomorrow I should be just about done NG+
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 30, 2011 10:28 pm
Really?? There's absolutely nowhere else to fall down there? :c
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anson1986 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
anson1986 Nov 30, 2011 10:30 pm
and of the places that were boarded up that people have tried wit upgraded weapons, the boards in the lower undead burg were already tried right? (sorry, at 21 pages it's getting hard to remember some things)
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 30, 2011 10:36 pm
Thanks to Frostfr0g for summming me and dropping the abyss ring.. which does not show up..

So both summon and be summoned the covenant ring of artorias cannot be traded...

I left the fire keeper soul on the alter where reah prays.. I bought everything from her... and she is gone.. no change as of now..

Interesting and cool find Dustofsaturn.. so if you get to 4 kings without the lord vessel.. that bonefire acts as if you have the lord vessel...

Someone mentioned the official strategy guide saying the pendant is for trading..

Did the official Strategy guide also say if you drop the abyss ring / charred orange ring it would show up in the firelink chest...?

because for 2 weeks after release this board was full of questions about that chest.. til it was discovered that if you drop either rings and quit your game.. they show up there.. in the firelink chest..

I don't know if others found out before I did.. but I posted that on the first page of this thread..

I have all the fire keeper souls x 2.. 1 is inyour bottomless box.. 1 is on your personal inventory.. you can never have more than 2 of each..

This run combined with my last run I did not revive the firelink keeper.. when I did my new game.. I still had her soul.., when she was dead.. I popped her old soul and she was good as new..

I still have the black eye orb.. which I plan on carrying with me through out the game..

it may show up on new game 7.. or not.. like the abyss / orange ring..
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Nov 30, 2011 10:44 pm
Seek Guidance hints

add to these if you know of any..

Undead parish - stairs to the blacksmith - "blacksmith ahead"

Princess big boobies - on the left corner in the back of the room facing towards her..
"Try arrows" Or "Try ranged attack"

not 100% on exact message but it hints at killing her..

Sen's fortress in the stairs / boulder breaking wall area "prisoner ahead"

In the undead parish, lower undead burg area

"prisoner ahead" for both Lautrec and the Sorcerers Apprentice

I think there might also be on in the depths.. but I cannot remember for sure

These are all offline message.. hints left in the game..

I know I saw more.. but can't exacty remember..

I think in the crystal cave / dukes archives was some.. but not sure..

Each area should have a hint, a secret door or illusiary wall..

Noted for this playthrough I have not let Logan out of the cage at sen's...

A discription in game on a weapon, or item says the lizard men of sen's fortress imprison their captives, they don't kill them and take them some place for some purpose after a while..

Hmm.. Reah is gone.. and I have not opened the gold fogs.. Gonna run through sen's again and see if she's in a cage..
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Nov 30, 2011 10:51 pm
At this point and time, seeing Reah in a cage at Sen's Fortress would be like seeing a burning bush tell yo u it's God, lol.

We'll take anything, FROM, just give us something!!
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Nov 30, 2011 11:47 pm
But I had three fire's keepers souls at once. The one from the church. One from a previous game. And one from New Londo. No, wait. It wasn't the New Londo but another one. Can't remember. Had all three on me.
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Nov 30, 2011 11:52 pm
If anyone wants to start jumping off of high places in Sens Fortress that's what I'll be doing for most of my half day of school tomorrow!

Oh and possibly double checking the Dukes Archives or other fall related areas. As well as getting my person up to 30 int for the Greatsword of Artorias to actually be effective. Lv 124 here I come!
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Dec 1, 2011 12:19 am
Hm.. has anyone ever gotten Reah into the Archive prison, with Seath still alive, and left her there for a long amount of time? Maybe eventually she'll turn into another Pisaca??
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halfbeast re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
halfbeast Dec 1, 2011 1:11 am
@digital-ashes: about the pendant being in the inventory slot when creating a character - the same thing shows with the master keys, just noticed that yesterday.
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Solrak_Selarom re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Solrak_Selarom Dec 1, 2011 4:45 am
I tried my research in the abyss... Bougth 99 prisms to mark all tha place and Then... I cant throw ítems.... They go trough the floor and fall down... Hmmmm... I have a question... Can you kill kaathe?
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Dec 1, 2011 4:54 am
you can't kill kaathe.. well not like to death..

you can damage him a bunch and he'll say I thought you'd be different, you're no chosen one.. and dissappear... gone for good.. even if you absolve..

The fire keepers souls, you can cary all 7 of them x 2 for 14.. you can never have any more than 2 of the same fire keeper souls on you..

they do give 5 humanity if used like a consumeable..

so when you get 2 of the keeper soul.. and you come upon a third.. through a series of dropping your old one and trying to pick up the new one.. you can determin which one it is and use it.. and pick up the old one and have 2.. wish each soul had a mini location discription.. but alas they don't..

Ran all through sen's.. the only prisoner was Logan.. poor old logan.. locked in cage..

if he should ever get free.. I wonder what will happen.. he couldn't get captured and locked up somewheres else..

and he's legendary, ya heard of ol big hat right.. he ain't famous for not getting captured....
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Dec 1, 2011 5:28 am
@ Glyphblade

I saw those messages but they werent telling anything new.
Just gonna post of there is something odd in à message or something.

Ready.....set.......cast Seek Guidance...... Go go go
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Dec 1, 2011 6:02 am
By the way, i'm doing my SG run in ng+ so perhaps it should be in ng++ or even ng+++ for a message to appear. Making this an almost endless attempt haha
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anson1986 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
anson1986 Dec 1, 2011 12:21 pm
One day From will be exposed for trolling its fans
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Solrak_Selarom re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Solrak_Selarom Dec 1, 2011 5:49 pm
Noctes, In Sen Fortress... Did you try to fall near the Logan's cage!? There is a way where the iron ball go trough...

and another thing... did you tried those falls in HUMAN form!?
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Dec 1, 2011 7:27 pm
...I havent. o_O

When I get the chance later today I shall go attempt this.
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ublug re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
ublug Dec 1, 2011 7:31 pm
@glyphblade
Thanks for the Seek Guidance messages/locations in sen's and lower undead burg, I added them to the page I made earlier.

About the chest in Firelink. I actually figured it out myself, or more precise; I drew the conclusion after I read a comment from someone who tried to trade the Orange Charred Ring with Snuggly, and it ended up in the chest. It might even have been your comments, don't remember, but I know it was from another thread on this forum.
I added it to the wiki, and then I checked the other wiki, and the same info had been added there a few days earlier. A week after that it was common knowledge. I have no idea if it is in any of the strategy guides.
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Solrak_Selarom re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Solrak_Selarom Dec 1, 2011 8:21 pm
Im near darkwaith rank 3... im at NG+ Kiln... i already killed a lot of NPCs, ill try to kill everyone and take the dark lord final...

If i try to kill kaathe... I get expulsed from the convenant? If not, i will kill him too (well, make him disapear).

Any thoughs? Just to see what happens... anyway, its my first dark lord final... so ill not notice if there is something diferent..

Btw... im not a bad guy Hahaha this is my dark walkthrough... next one ill be the best sunbro you will have ;p
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halfbeast re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
halfbeast Dec 2, 2011 12:54 am
has someone figured out why there are 3 chests in gwyndolin's room?

Noctes Dec 2, 2011 12:57 am
The third chest normally contains the Maiden armor set I believe, but if you grab it in the Duke's Archives first, then the chest will appear empty.
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halfbeast re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
halfbeast Dec 2, 2011 12:59 am
it was empty before I grabbed the maiden set. but there's still a third empty chest for no reason...
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Dec 2, 2011 1:01 am
@ halfbeast

Four actually, you forgot the one carrying enormous titty units.
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halfbeast re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
halfbeast Dec 2, 2011 1:03 am
@siahailatua

I wish there was a huge titty armor set. v_v

it would look great on all my male characters!
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Dec 2, 2011 1:04 am
Are you sure??

Well, I myself have never defeated Gwyndolin before going into the Archives, so I cant prove it myself, but that is what others say, as well as the wiki itself.
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halfbeast re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
halfbeast Dec 2, 2011 1:07 am
yeah, i'm guessing that beating gwyndolin AFTER seath made the chest empty, because I was in the area where you could find the set already.

there's still a 3rd one!
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Dec 2, 2011 1:28 am
heya Ublug.. the post your talking about was my post.. I tried to drop the charred orange to snuggly.. and well.. you know the rest..

I'm not claiming to have found it first or anything.. but I didn't know of or notice any posts about it or the firelink chest before I posted that thread..

and well it's a big world and a big game..

yet sometimes it feels so very small..
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Dec 2, 2011 1:30 am
lol then I dont know!

Also...This guy in another thread is claiming that after he created the Chaos Blade (katana), he went and talked to Shiva, and Shiva then asked him for it. He then apparently had a yes or no option, and when he said no, Shiva then became hostile and attacked and killed him.

Has anyone ever tried this? Talking to Shiva while in the Forest Hunter's covenant and while holding the Chaos Blade?
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Dec 2, 2011 1:55 am
if you guys have time and want your heads to explode..

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/606312-dark-souls/61180304

this is the thread where the chaos blade / Shiva / black eye orb info posted came from..

I'm looking at you.. swright120... tsk tsk..
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Dec 2, 2011 2:01 am
Well maybe it actually happened to him??

I have not read the entire topic you posted, for its 14 pages long.. but I did see the beginning of the talk about it and the files within the game and whatnot.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Dec 2, 2011 3:32 am
Hey glyph, have you tried going into the catacombs/tomb of the giants right after Petrus and Reah leave firelink?
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Dec 2, 2011 3:33 am
I hope it did happen Noctes.. though I am also sad.. cause I went and killed Shiva already .. the cats said she didn't trust him..

so I took the initiative.. killed both Shiva and Ninja friend.. yet still got booted out of the forest cov..

no special dialogue.. but i did not have the chaos blade on me.. so ...

also.. no strange drops.. just the same as ussual..

what is most appealing on that thread is mention of a secret area in tomb of giant.. someone fell off the cliff near 3 dogs.. well more like got pushed off,.,.

landed in an area with 2 fog doors.. one led back to the bonfire.. the other and this is quoted text.. needed an item to open..

wether that was real or not.. but I know what I'll be doing tomorrow..
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Dec 2, 2011 3:38 am
I read that too. I watched the videos in question (posted by TheMediaCows they said).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VYisvkK63k&feature=relmfu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVJ_GknW3zU&feature=relmfu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAGGLR6in2c&feature=relmfu

And now there's this supposed secret wall in the Painted World..
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Dec 2, 2011 4:04 am
I'm not in the mood to watch all the vids. Anything interesting. I'm trying the two door deal in the tomb of the giants though.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Dec 2, 2011 6:04 am
I just tried talking to shiva both in the forest and blighttown. mentioned nothing of the blade. Even had the blade equipped but that was only in the forest. I could try and buy everything off of him then try but that'll have to wait until tomorrow.
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Dec 2, 2011 8:19 am
Alright I can also back up what Digital Ash's has said. It is fake. Also The black Eye orb disappears after fighting Lautrec so you can't use it afterwards.

No matter how shady Shiva and his bodyguard are they don't attack you whilst having or wielding the Chaos Blade.
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Adrikekz re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Adrikekz Dec 2, 2011 8:26 am
I wouldnt be THAT quick to bust this myth, Dustofsaturn.

Remember, there are two other NPCs which warn you of Shiva. Also, have you tried speaking with him whilst beeing all ranks in the covenant(Obviously using or atleast carrying the blade)?
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Dec 2, 2011 8:30 am
I'm rank one in the covenant and have gotten the Speech of Alvina distrusting him. Still there is a lacking of evidence plus how can one have a black eye orb if it disappears later on in the game?
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Adrikekz re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Adrikekz Dec 2, 2011 8:34 am
The troll said that he got yet another Black eye orb.

Lack of evidence is why its called a theory\myth. If you have tried all variables to either prove or disprove that theory, then great. If not, you have made a conclusion based on baloney.
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Dec 2, 2011 8:42 am
If he can tell us where he attained said orb I'll at least think about it. Without that than nope.

Digital-Ashes Dec 2, 2011 3:17 pm
Also, Tomb of the Giants, I have found an invisible ledge (several). Prism stones land on it but I fall through. There are others who have found this out as well. I wonder if it's a glitch.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Dec 2, 2011 4:33 pm
where in the t.o.g is the invisiable ledge Digital.

Piwheel..
1rst slide
drop down shortcut to the 2 giant skeletons
2nd slide
archer and giant skeleton
3rd slide
Patches..
First Bone fire.
First dog
Black knight Fog gate
Dog and archer
Dog and big skeleton
2nd bonfire
Ladder down
3 dogs
Ledge with silver snake ring
Pathway Leeroy spawns on?
Pathway

also in T.O.G.. has anyone figured out how to get on top of the roof of the tomb with the one giant archer... the hole in the tomb leads to the divine ember..

That archer has killed me countless times.. yes you can kill him.. but if he's up there.. I'd like to be too.. there might be a chest or something..

A soul corpse would show up and we could see it..
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Dec 2, 2011 4:41 pm
Right around the three bone dogs. I keep falling through but my prism stones don't. I got annoyed because of the dogs so I stopped.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Dec 2, 2011 9:27 pm
Alright, here's my two cents on this whole invisible door in Ariasmas. I heard an occult weapon would be best choice. I have a club, seeing as you can get one already that is occult, and had fully upgraded it for the achievement. I went around hittin the walls and noticed that the motion causes your light to dim/disappear (that faint glow we all got). The dimming light made it look like, to me at least, that a wall was disappearing when in fact it wasn't. This is a trick of the eyes in my opinion.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Dec 2, 2011 9:31 pm
ya.. I noticed the shadow effect / light change when you hit the walls.. it's not going invisible.. or revealing a secret door..

soo...
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Dec 2, 2011 9:34 pm
yep. trolled.

By the way, anyone try Shiva after Alvina states her distrust for him? I tried invading people but dammit I can't do it. I suck at PVP in this game.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Dec 2, 2011 10:12 pm
I noticed the same weird lighting effect. I tried hitting all the walls with my Occult Claymore +5. Hell I even went full on Oswald, Rapier and all.

Oh and I tested out falling down different areas in Sen's Fortress while human. Didnt find anything. I even tried opening all of the cages I could find, and I stood inside each one for at least 60 seconds (waiting for something to happen, like with the bird's nest and the coffin in the Catacombs), thinking maybe one will close and take me somewhere, but nothing.

Granted, I did test out the falling (and dying) while wearing Ring's of Sacrifice, but I dont see why it wouldnt work. It works in the Duke's Archive's when Seath kills you after all.
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Dec 2, 2011 10:41 pm
I've talked with Shiva after Alvina states her distrust. Only person whom I haven't chatted with is Patches.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Dec 2, 2011 10:45 pm
Do it. Because then I can get out of this Covenant.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Dec 2, 2011 10:45 pm
Even Patches doesnt seem to like him. He doesnt give much of a reason, he just expresses his distaste for him.

...Was he the second npc other than Alvina that everyone said doesnt trust him?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Dec 2, 2011 10:49 pm
yes. Patches actully sounds honest about it too.
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Dec 2, 2011 10:57 pm
I'll chat with patches tomorrow. I'm building my level 22-28 Princess's Guard Character that will have enough Faith to use the miracles that they give.

(Of course killing everything up to that point will be tricky)
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Razor2202 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Razor2202 Dec 2, 2011 11:03 pm
Something I noticed that might save you guys researching the "invisible pathways":

I back stabbed a blk knight in the kiln and shoved him off the edge. He appeared to fall to his death but the golden item drop icon appeared to float just off the ledge. Looked like it was floating in mid air, or sitting on an invisible ledge.

I believe the game mechanics are that you can die for
Falling either "x" height or where the game designers put a "instant fall to death" field. These "fields" hold up items, such as drops and prison stones, but cue the death fall animation if the player touches them.

I believe this is what you are seeing.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Dec 2, 2011 11:09 pm
I dont think the "fields" hold up the items. They can float in mid air.

I've killed quite a number of ghosts that were off the edge, and some of them dropped items that looked as though they were floating. I think the items is placed whee the enemy dies, despite their elevation, or if there's walkable ground beneath.
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Razor2202 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Razor2202 Dec 2, 2011 11:12 pm
@noctes

Still, I think this is what the guys are seeing.

You agree?
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Dec 2, 2011 11:13 pm
um anyone have solaire atack them before?
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Dec 2, 2011 11:14 pm
@darkmerk: Yeah, its actually what happens the majority of the time to the majority of players. Its what happens when you dont open up the Lost Izalith shortcut and take out all of the sunlight maggots before Solaire gets there.
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Dec 2, 2011 11:15 pm
When I joined the forest covenant and got the speach from Alvina not to trust Shiva..

I went and visited him in blighttown..

I did not have the chaos on me at this time..

he told me the same ole stuff.. I debated killing him.. or waiting.. decided to kill him.. I'd either get kicked out of the forest covenant.. or not.. based on what the cat said.. harming any friendlies in the forest..

which Is why I figured they as in Shiva and buddy move to blighttown..

I got kicked out of the forest covenant for killing them... absolved, rejoined and me and the cat have never talked about Shiva again..

moral here is.. nothing different game play wize.. but i didn't have the chaos blade..

I will next time... and I'm rank 3 now.. only a few more kills till I should be at 99 kills.. see if anything different happens..

then well who knows..
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Dec 2, 2011 11:21 pm
found 2 more mini finds...

In the valley of the drakes, in front of the poison / undead dragon.. there is a ramp leading up over top of it.. if almost blends into the back ground.. and would seem un noticable..

but you can climb up there and look down at the dragon.. if he is aggro on you. he will stop completely and just sit there... so an easy drop down jump / faling attack place.. or avoid the poison dragon completely..


The canvas talisman Patches sells is the best talisman in the game.. ingnore the stats and the blue highlighted A between the Canvas and the darkmoon..

The canvas adds about 50 point of damage to wrath of god.. over the dark moon..

The ring of the sun princess that boosts miracle synergy.. well.. it also boosts your healing / damage for faith based spells.. just by equiping it...

So if you wanna max faith spell damage / healing.. dusk crown, ring of the first born, ring of the sun princess and the canvas talisman...
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inksoldier re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
inksoldier Dec 3, 2011 1:27 am
I tried talking to Shiva with the Chaos blade but he didn't respond any differently. However, I hadn't received the Alvina distrust dialogue yet. So in order to debunk the myth about Shiva and the Blade, we have to rule the possibilities: Talking to Shiva with Chaos blade, as rank 1, 2 or 3 forest hunter and received dialogue about distrust of Shiva.

darkmerk Dec 3, 2011 2:11 am
so i just read the orange charred ring description and got to thinking.
what if someone wore the ring plus the old witchs ring and her clothing and wep then went up to the door?
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Dec 3, 2011 3:12 am
Im going to try something...

I am going to watch old gameplay videos from E3 and such to see if there is ever any instance where they go into the menu and perhaps they will have the pendant and hover over it..

<_<
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halfbeast re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
halfbeast Dec 3, 2011 4:31 am
lol@noctes

I always wondered why never got a direct feed video of the very first (TGS2010) video. maybe they're trying to hide something? :O
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Dec 3, 2011 4:55 am
Guys, i'm currently darkwraith lvl 3. Any suggestions for things to try?
Cuz otherwise i am leaving this cov for the moment.
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anson1986 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
anson1986 Dec 3, 2011 10:09 am
The black eye orb description says not only is it specifically for invading the world of the murderer of a fire keeper (so probably not at all the thief of/user of a chaos blade) but it says it always keeps a watchful eye over the land of the Gods, Anor Londo. So if this Shiva thing were to have any merit, which at this point I think we can agree it doesn't, the point of use for the Black Eye Orb would have to be Anor Londo
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Dec 3, 2011 11:17 am
if the game did include the Shiva quest, chaos blade.. then there would be 2 black eye orbs.. one for Lautrec and one for Shiva..
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Dec 3, 2011 11:39 am
This is the supposed area of the supposed door on Ariasmas. Found it on GameFaqs

http://www.flickr.com/photos/29665945@N03/6444611511/in/photostream
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Dec 3, 2011 11:40 am
I am calling bs on it but I will give it a try just in case.
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darkmerk re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
darkmerk Dec 3, 2011 12:18 pm
i allready proved that wrong..i hit up there to
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Dec 3, 2011 12:34 pm
Yeah, I figured. I was running around earlier too.
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anson1986 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
anson1986 Dec 3, 2011 1:05 pm
@glyphblade My point was that if it included the shiva quest, it would also include some other type of orb. Since the orb's function doesn't fit Shiva's action and I have yet to find/see anything about items with the same name and different description. Even if it was an "orange eye orb" or something there would need to be some other item. Either way I thik we can agree it either was in the game but was removed or never existed
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DeCeleRator93 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
DeCeleRator93 Dec 3, 2011 2:31 pm
Not sure if this has been posted but I found a website with the preview of duke archives as a secret area http://www.gamesradar.com/dark-souls-preview-look-size-thing/
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Dec 3, 2011 2:35 pm
That's it. I'm killing everything there and searching every inch of the place.
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Razor2202 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Razor2202 Dec 3, 2011 2:43 pm
God dammit. I wish I had not read that.

Yep. Time to head back and tear the place apart...


But oh how I love the work...
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Dec 3, 2011 2:53 pm
Ahaha, i'm in the area where Seath was originally and I was hitting walls. Suddenly I hear a sound and I was :O but it turned out that someone kindled my bonfire giving me an Estus Flask. It happened three time in row too XD
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halfbeast re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
halfbeast Dec 3, 2011 3:04 pm
guys, could we make a list of the events and how they are triggered? I'm interested in what's going on at firelink everytime I did something.

I realized after killing taurus demon and capra the maiden arrived. after killing butterfly they were gone (even petrus). I was cooping/screwing around for a while and noticed Petrus returned. so, I'm a little confused if the events are triggered after boss kills or something else.

these are all things before I ran any of the two bells.

(PS: funny how Petrus first was all "oh noes, poor maiden all alone in the catacombs!" and after talking to Lautrec he kinda admits that maiden is all helpless down there with lots of humanity for anyone to get)
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Siahailatua re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siahailatua Dec 3, 2011 3:18 pm
Ffs im heading to dukes also, is that à secret boss in the screenshot? Dont look familiar at all...
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Dec 3, 2011 3:20 pm
That would be the gaping dragon
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Phaedros re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Phaedros Dec 3, 2011 3:25 pm
At first it seemed like the article was saying that the Duke's Archives itself would not be experience till the second or third playthrough but I take it they mean a secret are within the Duke's Archives, right?
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glyphblade re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
glyphblade Dec 3, 2011 3:30 pm
Anson.. thats the whole point..

According to dump files, and all the hiddenish. edited or non implemented items in the game...

The Elite cleric set
The Elevator Lift Key
The sacrafice ring copy miracle
and the 2nd black eye orb..

The back eye orb for Lautrec has his discription... fire keeper, anor londo.. etc..

but according again to the dump file.. or what ever the term is the second black eye orb has this discription

"Invade the world of Shiva, and subdue him
to reclaim the Blade of Chaos.

But the Black Eye has lost its focus,
and its powers waver timorously.
Where could the traitor Shiva be?"

So it's not like it would be a different colour... it would be unique as it's discription differs .. so you could have both in your inventory at the same time.

and again it likely is not in the game.. was cut.. or possibly and this is the hope that we just haven't found how to do it yet..

My current theory is that both Quelaan, the daughter of chaos fire keeper and covenant does not speak unless you equip the witch ring.

The fire keeper in fire link doesn't speak until you resurect her..

This is my theory - Shiva's ninja body guard doesn't speak until you rank up and have the pendant... and possibly the east and dark grain rings.. and all that..

I won't find out til my next run.. cause I killed both ninja and Shiva..

and even if it proves to be busted.. is just more reasons to keep playing..

I also caught a thread on the wiki about possible future dlc.. but no one else has made any mention of it.. so

does anyone know about download content release?

DeCeleRator93 Dec 3, 2011 3:35 pm
The one thing that got me about the article is it was written one month before the game was to be released. So the developers probably wouldn't change something as big as a secret area to one required to finish the game.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Dec 3, 2011 3:41 pm
Nope but I have a theory about the Pendant, Reah, and Dukes.

So, Reah is Way of Light right? And She has a Pendant. Those Squids girls used to be a maiden like Reah. So here we go:

Start game with Pendant.
Keep going normal until you get Reah at the Church (after saving her)
Join the Covenant via her instead of Petrus
Buy all Miracles so she winds up in Dukes
Turn off the alarm so the Squids don't attack.
Leave two crying squid alive
Kill hollow Reah
Try random areas with pendant.
Maybe try the two miracles as well that the squid drop

Anyone try this yet? i think i may have heard some thing about this theory before but can't remember.
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Gett1nJ1ggy re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Gett1nJ1ggy Dec 3, 2011 5:52 pm
I'm not sure if this question was asked already, and sorry if it was, this thread is just huge haha
Anyways, here goes. Has anyone noticed that one of doors by the two giant knights in Anor Londo does not open? I'm talking about the door on the right side of one of the giant knights, whereas on the left side when you open that door, it leads to the Giant Blacksmith. Idk if the other door is purely for cosmetic purposes, or if the door requires some special means to open it.
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JohnnyHarpoon re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
JohnnyHarpoon Dec 3, 2011 6:04 pm
I just ran around the Duke's Archives, NG+++, +15 Murakumo, started with Pendant in NG and now have 3.

I even jumped on top of the gears in the prison and tried to get them moving.

Essentially, nothing.
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old__red re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
old__red Dec 3, 2011 8:33 pm
I want to believe but it seems like he doesn't know much of anything in that preview, he could've just got his wires crossed in terms of seeing seath after they went through the crystal caves. has anyone e-mailed the auther to see if the boss he saw was in fact seath?
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Phaedros re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Phaedros Dec 3, 2011 8:41 pm
That would be something old_red. But then again he does say that you wouldn't encounter it until the second or third playthrough. Obviously, you have to encounter Seath on each playthrough, there's no way around that.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Dec 3, 2011 8:43 pm
Indeed, but this was written before the game released...albeit only a month before, so its questionable how much they would change with so little time left.

I dont see any harm in emailing the author about it.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Dec 3, 2011 8:47 pm
I was going to email him myself, but.. I cant seem to find his email anywhere. I found him on twitter, but he hast tweeted anything since Nov 12...
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balmungmp5 re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
balmungmp5 Dec 3, 2011 9:18 pm
i welcome anyone to do an "i told you so" if i'm wrong but I'm pretty sure as of now the pendant doesn't do anything.

not to undermine the efforts of anyone that has tried to discover a meaning. I applaud you. I thought rumors like this were gone since the advent of the internet. I applaud FROM and you guys for making one of my favorite parts about gaming come back

still haven't found that mew under the truck...
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Dec 3, 2011 9:44 pm
Ah, but Mew was indeed in the game and in a way that wasn't discovered for years.
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Phaedros re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Phaedros Dec 3, 2011 9:47 pm
Was he? You're talking about pokemon blue and red right?
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Dec 3, 2011 9:50 pm
Yes. It was some weird way to get to him. From what I understand he wasn't meant to be in the game but one of the developers stuck it in with out anyone's knowledge or permission.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Dec 3, 2011 9:54 pm
I still remember exactly what to do to face Mew...

Ah, Cerulean City...Goddamn that music was good...
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Phaedros re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Phaedros Dec 3, 2011 10:04 pm
Hmm I don't. I guess the biggest thing I remember from that game was missingno
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Dec 3, 2011 10:05 pm
It wasn't discovered until years after the game came out.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Dec 3, 2011 10:13 pm
Its a very out of the way "how the hell would anyone even think of doing that" type of thing.

It isnt exactly a glitch, but I do think it messes with the game a bit. First of all, you need an Abra, found just outside Cerulean City (up Nugget Road). A Wigglytuff would be good to have as well, but isnt required as far as I know.

Here's a video that shows it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkF7Xjxn9jc
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Dustofsaturn re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Dustofsaturn Dec 3, 2011 10:22 pm
You can also do that a different way beside lavender town with Fly. That trainer with the slowpoke is the key though because it's a stat or something with the slowpoke that equals 151 which is the number of mew. Once you reach a certain spot after that glitch it spawns this mew fight.

Again though it really is a "WTF HOW THE *@(Y%BH???!!?!!"
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Siarii re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Siarii Dec 3, 2011 10:26 pm
I like how this went from Dark Souls to Pokemon, heh.
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Noctes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Noctes Dec 3, 2011 10:30 pm
Yeah, the spot is RIGT when you leave Lavender Town I believe from the West entrance/exit.
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Digital-Ashes re: All dark Souls Secrets... lots of spoilers..
Digital-Ashes Dec 3, 2011 10:35 pm
heh, yeah. sorry Siarii. Just trying to prove a point. We can't say there are no secrets in the game until all theories and ideas and attempts have been exhausted.