Magic Damage vs Miracle damage.

Thanks to the vids of the weapons showcase that Forum Pirate put up I found this video. Its the same guy doing a magic showcase.


He's using maxed stats and what I would assume to be the best possible catalysts to cast the spells. It looks like magic is outdone by miracles as far as raw damage goes at maxed stats. Especially the weapon buffs which seem to far out do magic weapon buffs.


Not sure if the numbers I'm seeing are totally accurate but I found this interesting.

Um mind posting the video link in question?

Are you trying to tell me that CSS using crown and dragon ring does less than Sun spear?

Im sorry but i gotta call bull **** on that without seeing evidence, no way.

Oh crap hahaha. Sorry guys. I don't think he's using any rings to boost the damage.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_890102&src_vid=cjmFF13qSvw&feature=iv&v=UEeCoOh5VVw

ErrJon6661 wrote:Oh crap hahaha. Sorry guys. I don't think he's using any rings to boost the damage.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_890102&src_vid=cjmFF13qSvw&feature=iv&v=UEeCoOh5VVw

thats the link you got from clicking on an annotation. the normal like is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEeCoOh5VVw&feature=youtu.be but they both work

The guy used oolicile ivory catalyst which is one of the worst catalysts

Yea sorry that video shouldn't be used for confirming anything, and by jolly why must he cast every spell twice to show it once?

I didn't realize how crappy that catalyst was sorry guys. I've never really used sorceries so I've never paid attention to them.

lol

Ask Blaine next time.

Haha I was beaten to the answer!

Yeah, Oolacile caps at 180 Mag Adj when you reach 12 Int! lol

That's why I keep saying you need to use the right catalyst for your level, otherwise you will not be getting increased spell effectiveness no matter how many points you spend in Int.

As for Magic buffing spells vs Faith buffing spells, it's a tricky subject. If you look at their multiplier alone, it would seem like Fth has Int handily beat.

Int: CMW = 1.4 x Mag Adj
Fth: SLB = 1.8 x, DMB = 2.1 x Mag Adj (at Max Covenant Rank)

But, the important detail here is the Mag Adj. The Tin Crystallization Catalyst, at 50 Int, has 293 Mag Adj. That's 410 bonus damage. At 50 Fth, on the other hand, the highest Mag Adj you can get is 226, which will get you 406 bonus with SLB and 474 with DMB.

BUT, that's not all yet! CMW and DMB *** Magic damage, whereas SLB adds Lightning damage. So now you need to take into account your opponent's defenses.

So it's not so simple, you see!

You all forgot the worst thing about the video:

He is testing multi hit spells on enemies that cannot survive a single hit.

If the common undead could survive all spheres from crystal soul mass he would likely take over 1500 damage using 50 int, Logan Catalyst, Dragon Ring and a boosting helmet.

That said, this is just a video showcasing the spells of the game, not their quality, and definitely not their damage potential. Author should change thread name.

I was mainly referring to the buffs. The magic ones were adding significantly less than the others. And the spears were much different in damages also.

I don't think the author really meant it to be a comparison of strength between the different magic branches. But someone could add it in the comments that it should only be seen as a showcase and not a comparison. Wrong catalyst, no buffing equipment, etc = biased.

Edit: my bad, misread that post! I was talking about the person who created the video.