What makes someone turn Hollow? Also, Flame of Kindling and Reah.

JohnnyHarpoon wrote:

SilenceOfKnights wrote:
how you would actualy defeat the game,it just dosen't make sense from the game design point.

Only use Humanity.

true but why would using an estus flake would make a difference.

the way someone goes hollow is by the lack of humanity

as an undead humanity keeps you sane pretty much you need more and more and more humanity to keep yourself from insanity

you see many characters you meet through the game go hollow meaning they completely ran out of humanity and are now pretty much crazy maniacs that want to kill you

even if your humanity counter is 00 and you're in hollow form it doesn't mean you're insane it means you're close to becoming just as insane as someone who smoked weed in the middle of the street


thats my take on hollowing

flame of kindling...

it is a flame made of humanity,meaning hollows don't go insane near them

thats why you never see any enemies near a bonfire

the bonfire releases humanity in the air slowing down the process of hollowing



thats my take on the flame and thats all i have to say

the rest is you to your imagination

Scudman_Slayer wrote:the way someone goes hollow is by the lack of humanity

as an undead humanity keeps you sane pretty much you need more and more and more humanity to keep yourself from insanity

you see many characters you meet through the game go hollow meaning they completely ran out of humanity and are now pretty much crazy maniacs that want to kill you

even if your humanity counter is 00 and you're in hollow form it doesn't mean you're insane it means you're close to becoming just as insane as someone who smoked weed in the middle of the street


thats my take on hollowing

flame of kindling...

it is a flame made of humanity,meaning hollows don't go insane near them

thats why you never see any enemies near a bonfire

the bonfire releases humanity in the air slowing down the process of hollowing



thats my take on the flame and thats all i have to say

the rest is you to your imagination

explain me how the crestfallen warrior gets hallowed

simple after you ring the two bells frampt appears in firelink

go talk to crestfallen and he says the semlls is horrible due to frampt being there and he says he will go down to new londo to escape the smell

and on the new londo due to no bonfire slowing the hollowing process he becomes hollowed and joins the fellow crazy bastards in there

Scudman_Slayer wrote:simple after you ring the two bells frampt appears in firelink

go talk to crestfallen and he says the semlls is horrible due to frampt being there and he says he will go down to new londo to escape the smell

and on the new londo due to no bonfire slowing the hollowing process he becomes hollowed and joins the fellow crazy bastards in there

After killing him the first time in New Londo, I love to kick his *** soon as I arrived to Firelink. Is great to practice parry

Scudman_Slayer wrote:simple after you ring the two bells frampt appears in firelink

go talk to crestfallen and he says the semlls is horrible due to frampt being there and he says he will go down to new londo to escape the smell

and on the new londo due to no bonfire slowing the hollowing process he becomes hollowed and joins the fellow crazy bastards in there

think about the fact when he leave he was human,actualy pretty much everybody that hallows were humans so there has to be another reason.

JohnnyHarpoon wrote:Lore-wise, Estus is a tool of the Gods that exists in order to get the Cursed to willingly donate (and thus destroy) their Humanity, which is actually the only thing tying them to their pre-cursed selves.

The Gods fear the Dark Soul (Humanity), so the entire Undead Curse is a Holocaust of sorts against Humans and Humanity.
hol·o·caust
   [hol-uh-kawst, hoh-luh-] noun
1. a great or complete devastation or destruction, especially by fire.
2. a sacrifice completely consumed by fire; burnt offering.

So, while Estus is 'life-giving', it is as much a part of the Curse as anything else.

but who has the darks soul, maybe you are the dark soul and they traped you in time.

...not really the hollowing process makes you look like that you see

when you're in hollow state you look ugly as ****

he was still in human form before the hollowing process started taking its tow

however human form will keep you from becoming hollowed for so long

he ran out of humanity and his sanity was slowly drained away and then he became what he became now

SilenceOfKnights wrote: but who has the darks soul, maybe you are the dark soul and they traped you in time.

Humanity is the Dark Soul. Look at it...it looks just like a Boss' Soul but black.

The 'Pygmy' isn't a character so much as it is simply Humans themselves. Humans are small compared to most everything (Chaos Witch even before she got turned into a monster, Gwyn, Gwyndolin, Seath, even Ornstein, Smough, etc.)

JohnnyHarpoon wrote:

SilenceOfKnights wrote: but who has the darks soul, maybe you are the dark soul and they traped you in time.

Humanity is the Dark Soul. Look at it...it looks just like a Boss' Soul but black.

The 'Pygmy' isn't a character so much as it is simply Humans themselves. Humans are small compared to most everything (Chaos Witch even before she got turned into a monster, Gwyn, Gwyndolin, Seath, even Ornstein, Smough, etc.)

the intro said THE pygmy not and The PYGMYS

'The' can still be a reference to a group, though you are correct in that pygmy is used in a singular way in the intro

berkut wrote:'The' can still be a reference to a group, though you are correct in that pygmy is used in a singular way in the intro

i heard somewhere that the pygmy's descendant was sent to do something, i think it was to bring the age of darkness or something like that

Right, but the Pygmy is the progenitor of mankind.

Have you ever sided with Kaathe?

I haven't even finished the game once

berkut wrote:I haven't even finished the game once

Well I was talkin' to Jolly Cooperation over there, but damn, you've been 'round these parts for a while...savor it while it lasts!

JohnnyHarpoon wrote:

berkut wrote:I haven't even finished the game once

Well I was talkin' to Jolly Cooperation over there, but damn, you've been 'round these parts for a while...savor it while it lasts!

i say that gwyn control time and he restart every time to keep the age of fire.

SilenceOfKnights wrote:

JohnnyHarpoon wrote:

berkut wrote:I haven't even finished the game once

Well I was talkin' to Jolly Cooperation over there, but damn, you've been 'round these parts for a while...savor it while it lasts!

i say that gwyn control time and he restart every time to keep the age of fire.

Wrong!

Is GWYNDOLIN that does that! But if you link the fire!

Gwyn is hollow just like the crestfallen warrior!

Carphil wrote:

SilenceOfKnights wrote:

JohnnyHarpoon wrote:

berkut wrote:I haven't even finished the game once

Well I was talkin' to Jolly Cooperation over there, but damn, you've been 'round these parts for a while...savor it while it lasts!

i say that gwyn control time and he restart every time to keep the age of fire.

Wrong!

Is GWYNDOLIN that does that! But if you link the fire!

Gwyn is hollow just like the crestfallen warrior!

so why when u kill her in a playthrough time still restart.

I could dig that, too.

I wish 'Lost' somehow employed a time loop

SilenceOfKnights wrote:

Carphil wrote:

SilenceOfKnights wrote:

JohnnyHarpoon wrote:

berkut wrote:I haven't even finished the game once

Well I was talkin' to Jolly Cooperation over there, but damn, you've been 'round these parts for a while...savor it while it lasts!

i say that gwyn control time and he restart every time to keep the age of fire.

Wrong!

Is GWYNDOLIN that does that! But if you link the fire!

Gwyn is hollow just like the crestfallen warrior!

so why when u kill her in a playthrough time still restart.

Cause it's magic!

JohnnyHarpoon wrote:

SilenceOfKnights wrote:

Carphil wrote:

SilenceOfKnights wrote:

JohnnyHarpoon wrote:

berkut wrote:I haven't even finished the game once

Well I was talkin' to Jolly Cooperation over there, but damn, you've been 'round these parts for a while...savor it while it lasts!

i say that gwyn control time and he restart every time to keep the age of fire.

Wrong!

Is GWYNDOLIN that does that! But if you link the fire!

Gwyn is hollow just like the crestfallen warrior!

so why when u kill her in a playthrough time still restart.

Cause it's magic!

there has to be something that restart it.the questions is how and why.
why is most likely to conserve something but what.

SilenceOfKnights wrote:

JohnnyHarpoon wrote:

SilenceOfKnights wrote:

Carphil wrote:

SilenceOfKnights wrote:

JohnnyHarpoon wrote:

berkut wrote:I haven't even finished the game once

Well I was talkin' to Jolly Cooperation over there, but damn, you've been 'round these parts for a while...savor it while it lasts!

i say that gwyn control time and he restart every time to keep the age of fire.

Wrong!

Is GWYNDOLIN that does that! But if you link the fire!

Gwyn is hollow just like the crestfallen warrior!

so why when u kill her in a playthrough time still restart.

Cause it's magic!

there has to be something that restart it.the questions is how and why.
why is most likely to conserve something but what.

the age of fire. so the gods dont die

I mean, there is no right answer. But yeah, **** restarts.

JohnnyHarpoon wrote:I mean, there is no right answer. But yeah, **** restarts.

i wonder if the pendant can be the savior to this time repeating proplem