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    Post by Sloth9230 Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:53 pm

    I've noticed that a few people just join to ask for items, and then never post again unless it's to ask for another item. I feel like most of these people are just after the platinum trophy and are too lazy to play the game themselves. Then there's the guys who just want to get DLC the stuff for free. I don't mind helping them get the stuff, but they could at least go and post in other threads so that I don't feel like I just got used. How do you feel about those kinds of people?


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    Post by defacto Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:04 pm

    Andrew Ryan had a name for people like that.

    Parasites.
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    Post by CappuccinoJak Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:08 pm

    i worked hard to earn the stuff that i have, why should i just give it away to someone who doesn't want to put in the effort? if i have multiple copies i'm meh about them. like i'll drop a silver knight shield if i see someone using a grass crest shield all the time, but if and only if i have another one for me.
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    Post by The Letter X Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:16 pm

    More than half of my posts were once in the Trading and Player Help section to gìve out ìtems or help In co-op. After I noticed what you stated, I stopped frequenting it as much. I still like trading and helping people, but it left a bad taste in my mouth for a while.
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    Post by Ashran Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:43 pm

    I guess they just use the forum for that. Poor hollows.
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    Post by Oh_the_Humanity Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:51 pm

    They should start there own thread titled; "Trading gear" or something like that. But I still think they should have to work for it.
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    Post by LunarFog Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:00 pm

    Why would you help them in the first place?
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    Post by Oh_the_Humanity Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:04 pm

    LunarFog wrote:Why would you help them in the first place?
    I wouldn't, but if they had there own thread then the only people that posted would probably be willing to help.
    "help" isn't really the best word either. More like do it for 'em.


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    Post by The Letter X Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:04 pm

    LunarFog wrote:Why would you help them in the first place?

    Because we like helping people. :roll:
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    Post by Sloth9230 Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:13 pm

    LunarFog wrote:Why would you help them in the first place?

    Because I like helping people, it's the same reason I co-op, but every now and then I do ask myself "Why am I going through all this trouble just to help this person?". I see no reason to not give people my spare items, but I'd rather give them to someone who might put them to good use. Instead of someone who will just ditch the game as soon as they get their 100% completion trophy/achievement.
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    Post by Oh_the_Humanity Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:19 pm

    Sloth9230 wrote:
    LunarFog wrote:Why would you help them in the first place?

    Because I like helping people, it's the same reason I co-op, but every now and then I do ask myself "Why am I going through all this trouble just to help this person?". I see no reason to not give people my spare items, but I'd rather give them to someone who might put them to good use. Instead of someone who will just ditch the game as soon as they get their 100% completion trophy/achievement.

    ^That a good way to put it.

    If we're talking about just giving for the sake of giving, I wouldn't but that's me.
    Now if I see someone struggling with the gear they have or if there poisoned and aren't munching moss, then I'll help them out.
    But if someone message's me and just asked me for something without a good reason, then no.
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    Post by Animaaal Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:25 pm

    I would only respond to someone that frequents this forum, or one I'm familiar with. Even though I kinda new, I've lurked long enough.

    Besides, I like giving gifts to people in game that have earned it. Nothing cooler than watching an obedient host sit back and go, "Oh he|| ya! This dude just gave me 5 humanity, and Channelers Trident, AND is gonna help me beat O & S!"

    I never give high level weapons and armor to a low level rookie though. I've been known to give out some chunks though.
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    Post by Sloth9230 Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:28 pm

    It really hit me the other day when a ganker was demanding I hand over my MLGS. At first I was like "Dafuq???", but then I realized that I don't really know what the people I give my stuff to do with those things.

    I remember a guy on these forums was saying that it was okay for him to use his Obsidian Greatsword at low levels because he traded for it. It's one thing to earn those items, it's another to just have them handed over to you.

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    Post by Animaaal Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:36 pm

    Sloth9230 wrote:...It really hit me the other day when a ganker was demanding I hand over my MLGS....

    Ida dropped dung pies and then black crystal'd them outta my world.

    The nerve....
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    Post by Tolvo Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:39 pm

    The section exists for people to trade in. Some people read the forum/wiki, and take information for free without giving back. Some people want items but aren't interested in giving anything back. I wish they'd want to, but they don't have to. We have to accept that. Even if I feel the person won't stick around and just wants something, I'll sometimes give it out. Because I like to help people, regardless of whether I'll get something in return or not. You don't have to help people that you don't find will stick around, but let's not try to demonize people. They can use the forums how they want within its guidelines I feel. You don't have to help them of course, but I don't see anything truly wrong with them just asking for things.

    I don't remember the last time anyone got bent out of shape about the number of people who read the wiki, compared to the numbers who edit it.
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    Post by Sloth9230 Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:41 pm

    I killed him with the energy blast and at first he was only asking me about it. Then he asked me if I was willing to give it to him, and I explained that I needed it for my build. After that he started calling me things, and said I was selfish because I could just get another one if I really needed it.

    Tolvo: It's not that I see anything wrong with giving them things, I just feel like my items would be better off elsewhere. I still give homeless people money even if I think they'll just spend it on booze, I like to believe the best in people. Hell, maybe if I help people out, they'll want to stick around.


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    Post by CappuccinoJak Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:43 pm

    Sloth9230 wrote:I killed him with the energy blast and at first he was only asking me about it. Then he asked me if I was willing to give it to him, and I explained that I needed it for my build. After that he started calling me things, and said I was selfish because I could just get another one if I really needed it.

    you WERE selfish! not only did you beat him, but you insulted him by not giving him what's rightfully his.
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    Post by Tolvo Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:43 pm

    Tolvo wrote:The section exists for people to trade in. Some people read the forum/wiki, and take information for free without giving back. Some people want items but aren't interested in giving anything back. I wish they'd want to, but they don't have to. We have to accept that. Even if I feel the person won't stick around and just wants something, I'll sometimes give it out. Because I like to help people, regardless of whether I'll get something in return or not. You don't have to help people that you don't find will stick around, but let's not try to demonize people. They can use the forums how they want within its guidelines I feel. You don't have to help them of course, but I don't see anything truly wrong with them just asking for things.

    I don't remember the last time anyone got bent out of shape about the number of people who read the wiki, compared to the numbers who edit it.

    I will not be bottom paged and ignored again!
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    Post by Animaaal Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:46 pm

    Sloth9230 wrote:I killed him with the energy blast and at first he was only asking me about it. Then he asked me if I was willing to give it to him, and I explained that I needed it for my build. After that he started calling me things, and said I was selfish because I could just get another one if I really needed it.

    It was an invader? Wow I was under the impression it was a phantom, or you were phantoming for someone. I say again...

    ...the nerve.
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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:49 pm

    I have to admit I don't like the approach they take but sometimes I'll help them out. I'm a Darkwraith and I have cracked orbs to spare, why not give them out to someone who wants them? Plus, it helps the Forum's rep as place of helpful/knowledgeable players which, I think, is part of what has helped us thrive all this time.

    The ones that won't get my help are the ones that write, "need help on 4 kings NG+ SL 41 will be in new londo in 20 minutes - get there!" and those that write, "want channeler's trident for knight's honor trophy am offering 5 humanity in return."
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    Post by Sloth9230 Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:50 pm

    Animaaal wrote:
    Sloth9230 wrote:I killed him with the energy blast and at first he was only asking me about it. Then he asked me if I was willing to give it to him, and I explained that I needed it for my build. After that he started calling me things, and said I was selfish because I could just get another one if I really needed it.

    It was an invader? Wow I was under the impression it was a phantom, or you were phantoming for someone. I say again...

    ...the nerve.

    No I was the invader silly

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    Edit: Someone up-rep Tolvo for me, I'm out of votes.
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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:58 pm

    Sloth9230 wrote:Edit: Someone up-rep Tolvo for me, I'm out of votes.

    Done.

    But he really doesn't need it. If you want to spread rep charity around, you should really find another case. Tolvo swims in oceans of rep as it is. silly
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    Post by Tolvo Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:01 am

    Hey, people just need to realize I'm obviously the nicest, most helpful dude around...

    Come on, rep me more, do it now!


    I need my fix man!
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    Post by Sloth9230 Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:01 am

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:If you want to spread rep charity around, you should really find another case.

    Someone up-rep Jester! silly
    jk...


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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:03 am

    Tolvo wrote:Hey, people just need to realize I'm obviously the nicest, most helpful dude around...

    Come on, rep me more, do it now!


    I need my fix man!

    Sorry, fresh out. That was my last vote. I'll be given a clean slate in a couple of hours, though.

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