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    Post by Automancer Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:36 pm

    Since elementals were nerfed, do they have the same damage on backstabs/ripostes as their +15 counterparts? Like a +15 Rapier with 40 Dex and a Chaos Rapier+5 with minimum Dex.
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    Post by LunarFog Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:52 pm

    this interests me.

    I've always avoided using elemental weapons for my assassins because they make those loud noises, but if they outdamage normal weapons for backstabs then maybe they'll be worth it..
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    Post by Myztyrio Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:19 pm

    I assume that 40 dex with a rapier/dagger or 40-50 str with a demon great machete/great club/axe, etc. would do more.
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    Post by Phoenix Rising Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:26 pm

    I'm fairly sure the elemental counterparts are slightly more...haven't tested since the nerf though...
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    Post by Ghadis_God Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:33 pm

    The elemental counterparts did the same damage prepatch. Postpatch, 40 Dex is going to do more.

    This video should explain


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    Post by Phoenix Rising Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:35 pm

    on crits?? nooooooo....my chaos rapier hit 300 higher than a +15 rapier on ripostes.
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    Post by Ghadis_God Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:37 pm

    You don't have 40 Dex then. Chaos barely beat out 40 Dex prepatch.
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    Post by Phoenix Rising Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:40 pm

    You're right I had 45 dex. 8) pre-patch tested on hollows. +15 1100 or so...chaos did around 1350.
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    Post by Ghadis_God Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:52 pm

    On hollows, yes. On other people, (PvP damage calculation favors a single damage type) elementals are less effective. See above video, and then consider that the eles are AR nerfed by 8-10%.
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    Post by Phoenix Rising Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:01 pm

    Now i'd bet the +15 outdoes the elemental...
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    Post by Ghadis_God Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:58 am

    I think eles might have an advantage in PvE still, but I haven't used an ele in PvE for such a long time I don't know how the nerf affected them. In PvP though scaling clearly comes out on top.
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    Post by Automancer Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:09 am

    But one of my builds can only have minimum Dex so looks like i'll have to go Elementals. Thanks, Ghadis. +1 for you!

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