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    My Pure Dex build.

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    Fast roll or Mid roll?

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    Post by Automancer Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:28 am

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=155515595114377884

    Before anyone says anything, this build is 28/40 not because its a quality build but because the Murakumo is also a Dex weapon so i've decided to invest for it as well. My question is, should i focus on fast rolls with this build or is it better to just mid roll? Since i'm mid-rolling and i have no shield and dual-wielding. If i mid roll, i might change some stuff around.

    I'm pretty much going with this setup. I'm staying with lower than 76 poise so that i stay on my feet rather than sleeping on 76 or higher poise.

    So yeah, Fast roll or Mid roll?
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    Post by twilightwarwolf Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:51 am

    you should probably just fast roll but if you arent using a shield y not put the shotel in the left hand?
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    Post by Automancer Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:00 am

    I needs it's R2.
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    Post by MockPride Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:09 pm

    Um....armor isn't the best, but I assume you're going for a look. I don't see why you'd ever use the great combustion when you have the shotel. I'd switch the pyromancy flame to a shield, or at least a great fireball spell.

    I don't know how midrolling a dual-weilder would go but since you have such long weapons it should be fine.
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    Post by Jiub of Carim Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:31 pm

    Oh yeah, love me a pure DEX!

    MockPride wrote:Um....armor isn't the best, but I assume you're going for a look. I don't see why you'd ever use the great combustion when you have the shotel. I'd switch the pyromancy flame to a shield, or at least a great fireball spell.

    I don't know how midrolling a dual-weilder would go but since you have such long weapons it should be fine.
    I agree. Plus, a pure DEX build doesn't use pyromancies. If youre going to main hand a shotel, IMO youre better off with no shield. Keep the pressure on them. If you really wanna use some pyros though, go with fire surge. Doesn't do alot of damage but works well with the shotel.
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    Post by Automancer Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:48 pm

    I guess you guys are right. I put in the G. Combustion solely for the purpose of countering parry spammers but i totally forgot one of my favorite weapons, the Notched Whip. Now, i can parry and spam away without the fear of being parried. Plus the bleed! winking

    Looks like i know what i'm going for now. Thanks a lot, guys!

    EDIT: LOL, who the heck downvoted my build?! Opinionists~


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    Post by Jiub of Carim Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:49 pm

    Automancer wrote:I guess you guys are right. I put in the G. Combustion solely for the purpose of countering parry spammers but i totally forgot one of my favorite weapons, the Notched Whip. Now, i can parry and spam away without the fear of being parried. Plus the bleed! winking

    Looks like i know what i'm going for now. Thanks a lot, guys!
    Good idea!
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    Post by Automancer Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:52 pm

    Exactly, it totally goes with the theme i'm aiming for. A brutish warlord!
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    Post by WyrmHero Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:15 pm

    This looks more like a quality build. If you really want a pure Dex lower Str to 16.
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    Post by Automancer Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:26 pm

    1 hand Murakumo. Dex. Dex. DEX.
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    Post by WyrmHero Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:33 pm

    Mura is a specialized Dex weapon. For most Dex weapons, you won't need anymore than 16 Str, so 28 Str seems like a waste don't you think? With 28 Str you'll want to 2H quality weapons for a quality build...
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    Post by Automancer Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:46 pm

    Hmm, good point there.

    Maybe i'll lower it to 24 at least. I do want to play more with off-hand curved Greatswords. It kinda gives me more options when dual wielding.
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    Post by Myztyrio Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:49 pm

    With a fast dex you shouldn't even need more than 31 poise. I do just fine with none at all.
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    Post by Automancer Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:50 pm

    I already have a ninja flipping Dex build with 37 poise so i'm trying to have a vast build selection when playing. When i make my builds, i try to fit in many variations to play with on each build cuz i'm saving character slots.
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    Post by Myztyrio Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:10 pm

    Automancer wrote:I already have a ninja flipping Dex build with 37 poise so i'm trying to have a vast build selection when playing. When i make my builds, i try to fit in many variations to play with on each build cuz i'm saving character slots.

    At that rate, you'll be wanting a quality build, like me. Lots of nice *left hand poke* *right hand slash* kinda stuff going on there. Then you switch to your DSS bow and TROLL'EM. But yeah.. your link there. It's only showing up as the Mugenmonkey template. You'll want to save the build first, then copy and paste the link here. I can't see a thing.
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    Post by WyrmHero Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:12 pm

    Automancer wrote:Hmm, good point there.

    Maybe i'll lower it to 24 at least. I do want to play more with off-hand curved Greatswords. It kinda gives me more options when dual wielding.


    You'll see it's very deadly. If that's the case then go for it!!!! (The mura I mean)

    Edit: You could even off hand it with a Washing Pole main hand to take advantage of the Str scaling. winking
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    Post by Automancer Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:15 pm

    Aww, mugen is frickin' broken again. /facepalm

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=238460960227869893
    Here's the revised one with 24 Str. I already have a quality build that's my Leo buff build that can be a quality dragon, and a tank which can use the Mura. So i guess i'll settle for mid-rolling with an off-hand Mura on that build.
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    Post by Myztyrio Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:20 pm

    If dual-wielding is your thing, I'd say take out a bunch of end, go for more vit and str.

    Edit: Something like this:

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=261723325865683038


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    Post by Automancer Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:20 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:
    Automancer wrote:Hmm, good point there.

    Maybe i'll lower it to 24 at least. I do want to play more with off-hand curved Greatswords. It kinda gives me more options when dual wielding.


    You'll see it's very deadly. If that's the case then go for it!!!! (The mura I mean)

    Edit: You could even off hand it with a Washing Pole main hand to take advantage of the Str scaling. winking

    O.O Washing machine! I totally forgot that one! That'll work with this
    build but i think i'll relinquish that combo to my Leo buff Quality
    build. This build is more for mixed variations of heavy and light Dex
    weapons. My other build is better for more heavy-on-heavy action. 8)

    You think it's better to go to 140 with this build? It's mostly for hosting and gank hunting.
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    Post by WyrmHero Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:21 pm

    Go 150 so you can join my SL cap change revolution lol.
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    Post by Automancer Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:23 pm

    Myztyrio wrote:If dual-wielding is your thing, I'd say take out a bunch of end, go for more vit and str.

    The problem is that i want a Dex build that has higher poise that dual-wields and still retain fast roll.
    I also have a dual-wielding pure Str/Vit build so yeah. I basically have all standards builds with slight variations to them. Only ones i haven't really made are casters cuz they're troublesome to make.
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    Post by Automancer Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:28 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:Go 150 so you can join my SL cap change revolution lol.

    I'm tempted to~ lol
    SL150 with more Vit and 28 Str for the Mura. It'll have the G. Combustion on the reserves in case something happens.
    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=321464510421786140
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    Post by WyrmHero Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:48 pm

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    Post by Automancer Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:50 pm

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=143458858663279235

    Ok, i think i've done it. SL150 with 'high' HP with 66 poise and able to wield the Mura in the off-hand while still fast rolling! No pyros though. The previous one can't fast roll using the Mura with the armor i had.

    I'm pleased with myself! cheers Now i can look swag while still kicking ***!

    EDIT: Aww, thanks Wyrm! big grin
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    Post by CrackSouls Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:53 pm

    I clicked one "Fast Roll" but really that's my preference. I have a friend who has almost the exact same build and he uses Medium roll and I find dueling him quite challenging.

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