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    Post by TheSleepiestRican Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:38 pm

    So after last nights FC I want to change my char around (might have to re build it stat wise e.e). Anyways, what's the absolute minimum for poise to not get stunlocked by most weapons? Is there a range I can be in for smaller weapons?

    Right now for what I'm trying to do I can get 58 poise with my desired build. What will that protect me from if anything at all?
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    Post by reim0027 Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:40 pm

    mmghouse wrote:Thanks to EWGF for testing these so thoroughly.

    Edit: took the list outside the quotebox so it's not as annoying to read.

    Afai quoting EWGF wrote:See below this quotebox for what was really quoted

    76 poise (51 for 1-handed resists):
    All Ultra Greatswords 2h R1s
    All Great Axes 2h R1s
    All Great Blunt 2h R1s

    53 poise (36 for 1-handed resists):
    All Great Asian Swords 2h R1s (apparently I had this wrong in my first Poise test, and rated at 55, that was the 55 Poise for the metagame)
    All Great Swords 2h R1s
    All 1-handed Blunts 2h R1s
    All 1-handed Axes 2h R1s

    31 poise (21 for 1-handed resists):
    All Asian Sword 2h R1s (and R2 in the case of Shotel)
    All 1-handed Sword 2h R1s
    All Katana 2h R1s (including Washing Pole)
    All Great Scythe 2h R1/R2s
    All Whip 2h R1s
    All Large Spear (Partisan/Pike) 2h R1s
    All Small Spear (Silver Spear/Winged Spear) 2h R1s
    All Halberd/Pole 2h R1s (figured this would have been 53, but it wasn't).

    8 poise (6 poise for 1-hand resists, or Fist Weapons):
    All Rapier 2h R1s
    All Dagger 2h R1s
    All Fist Weapons R1s (although this is actually 6 since you can't 2-hand a Fist Weapon)

    That should get you started. cheers


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    Post by TheSleepiestRican Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:40 pm

    Good man
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    Post by LOLRagezzz Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:45 pm

    I saw some others in same gear at FC so I'll just say it.

    Havels boots/gloves + paladin armor=76 poise.

    Up to you now to weight out cosmetics and function.

    For me, this is what I'll wear whenever I pvp, I cannot stand losing a match to 1 hit enabling r1 spam, I will not reward them! Let's talk poise 3248139268
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    Post by Carphil Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:47 pm

    ^ add wolf's ring and you will be pretty strong, but people preffer to add Havels and DWGR, so 76 poise with ninja flip its already good
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    Post by TheSleepiestRican Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:48 pm

    That's what I was using Ragezzz without the DWGR and medium rolling around. I really think my medium roll was what got me killed most of the time since people either had DWGR or at least the fast roll. So I'm experimenting with builds and trying to avoid using the DWGR though it seems I might have to.
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    Post by TheSleepiestRican Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:49 pm

    Carphil wrote:^ add wolf's ring and you will be pretty strong, but people preffer to add Havels and DWGR, so 76 poise with ninja flip its already good

    I had that exact build last night. All that with wolf's ring gave me 116 and allowed me to R1 spam against a couple of people and win with stunlock. Still that medium roll just wasn't cutting it.
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    Post by Carphil Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:51 pm

    Yeah for Dex builds its easier to get under 25% because of the weapons, but even with 40 stamina, wanderer clothes, balder sword and grass shield, I was doing the medium roll. Very very crazy, then I added the Havels ring and could use gloves and leggings of thorns and still do light roll.
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    Post by Serious_Much Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:52 pm

    I generally use (what i did last night) Elite knight chest, Havel gauntlets, black iron leggings. Gets you 66 poise, which i generally like to roll at, plus you dont look like a wanker happy

    and you all know i was ninja flipping silly


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    Post by LOLRagezzz Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:53 pm

    I know the DWGR is broken but I try to make a ninja in any game like this so it fits my personal playstyle.

    When I read the movement effect for the first time I was like wow, thats a crucial unlisted mod. lol
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    Post by TheSleepiestRican Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:00 pm

    Blargalargalargalarg what to do what to do. I need to go lift.... I'll be putting together builds in my head to whole time lol
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    Post by RANT Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:03 pm

    its so easy for dex builds to get 76 poise, those kats are so light, my machete alone weights 18.
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    Post by Brokewilly Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:48 pm

    reim0027 wrote:
    mmghouse wrote:Thanks to EWGF for testing these so thoroughly.

    Edit: took the list outside the quotebox so it's not as annoying to read.

    Afai quoting EWGF wrote:See below this quotebox for what was really quoted

    76 poise (51 for 1-handed resists):
    All Ultra Greatswords 2h R1s
    All Great Axes 2h R1s
    All Great Blunt 2h R1s

    53 poise (36 for 1-handed resists):
    All Great Asian Swords 2h R1s (apparently I had this wrong in my first Poise test, and rated at 55, that was the 55 Poise for the metagame)
    All Great Swords 2h R1s
    All 1-handed Blunts 2h R1s
    All 1-handed Axes 2h R1s

    31 poise (21 for 1-handed resists):
    All Asian Sword 2h R1s (and R2 in the case of Shotel)
    All 1-handed Sword 2h R1s
    All Katana 2h R1s (including Washing Pole)
    All Great Scythe 2h R1/R2s
    All Whip 2h R1s
    All Large Spear (Partisan/Pike) 2h R1s
    All Small Spear (Silver Spear/Winged Spear) 2h R1s
    All Halberd/Pole 2h R1s (figured this would have been 53, but it wasn't).

    8 poise (6 poise for 1-hand resists, or Fist Weapons):
    All Rapier 2h R1s
    All Dagger 2h R1s
    All Fist Weapons R1s (although this is actually 6 since you can't 2-hand a Fist Weapon)

    That should get you started. cheers

    Great information!! I knew about everything below 53 poise but the 76 poise stuff was new to me. I am adding this info to my database of DkS facts.

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