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    Backstep I-frames (Not a video)

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    Post by Kiva the wanderer Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:05 am

    The backstep does have i-frames but they are few but if you get the hang of knowing the i-frames its actually very useful for getting in a free running R1 id make a video but i dont have the equipment so here i go:

    1.As far as i can tell the frames on the backstep are for the duration you are backstepping but you cant just spam it - you only seem to get I-Frames before your feet meet the ground during a backstep.

    2.If you get use to it the backstep has HUGE potential for leaving openings on enemies since they cant really roll in time and most people will try to after they realize you just i-framed their attack.

    3. DWGR!

    4. MiNdGamES.

    5. It looks cool.

    6.Sadly it is only really useful to fast roll builds since mid rolls have a slower backstep but can still use the i-frames- the reason they are slower is because the recovery times longer.

    7.It can also ignore spells that deal damage (WoTG spam met by Claymore running R1)


    I dont know all that much about the backstep I-Frames like how many their are, if their is variables in the I-Frames between mid roll backsteps and fast roll backsteps and finally if it is affected badly by latency

    EDIT: The I-Frames on the backstep are actaully smaller than i stated, The i frames-seem to be only effectual when you hit the button to backstep the i frames dont last till your feet meet the ground.

    EDIT: Props to Maneater_Mildred for this the backstep has hyper armour in addition to I-Frames.

    Edit: Props to Stonedtrooper, Backstep has low stamina cost.


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    Post by Maneater_Mildred Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:10 am

    I knew it had hyper armor, never seen it confirmed if it has I-frames.

    The hyper armor is very handy for us low poise nuts. cheers
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    Post by Kiva the wanderer Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:11 am

    Maneater_Mildred wrote:I knew it had hyper armor, never seen it confirmed if it has I-frames.

    They hyper armor is very handy for us low poise nuts. cheers


    +1 ill add that to the list.
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    Post by Maneater_Mildred Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:20 am

    Proper Bow

    Thanks.

    Nice to see others that like the backstep as much as me. cheers +1
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    Post by Automancer Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:24 pm

    I manage to get tons of those i-frames cuz i backstep quite a lot in fights and it's definitely helped out in bad situations. It's amazing to do a reverse backstep with that i-frame and land a bs. So fun.
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    Post by Kiva the wanderer Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:26 pm

    Automancer wrote:I manage to get tons of those i-frames cuz i backstep quite a lot in fights and it's definitely helped out in bad situations. It's amazing to do a reverse backstep with that i-frame and land a bs. So fun.

    Yea the backstep is really underated, you can quickly get in a running R1, You get Hyper armour, you get small i-frames and it takes an amount of skill to time correctly its like a safer form of parrying.
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    Post by Automancer Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:28 pm

    I mainly use this to dodge since i never use a shield, i need all the invincibility that i can get during fights and this was the answer, lol.
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    Post by Stonedtrooper Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:40 pm

    Don't forget about the super low stamina drain. Very useful for burning stamina by baiting attacks from an opponent using a slow, heavy stamina drain weapon.
    The hyper armour would be much more useful if it didn't come with the extra damage taken :/


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    Post by Kiva the wanderer Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:45 pm

    Stonedtrooper wrote:Don't forget about the super low stamina drain. Very useful for burning stamina by baiting attacks from an opponent using a slow, heavy stamina drain weapon.
    The heavy armour would be much more useful if it didn't come with the extra damage taken :/

    +1 Adding that
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    Post by Kiva the wanderer Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:59 pm

    I probably should have named the topic , "Backsteps in depth".
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    Post by befowler Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:30 pm

    Yes, it gets both (a few) iframes and (a fair amount of) hyperarmor; the latter can save if you if you mistime it and don't get iframe coverage. There are some vids about this.

    You can also do the follow up running R1 in nearly any direction from the end of the backstep if you give a directional input along with the R1. So you can surprise another opponent, or use it unlocked and land a dead angle by doing an angled run instead of one straight back along the same way you just backstepped.
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    Post by Dutchy Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:50 am

    Sorry, Hyper Armour? I'm not familiar with that term? I'd imagine it would be that you don't get stumbled even if you get hit? But I don't know.
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    Post by Automancer Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:05 am

    ^Meaning that you don't get staggered if you get hit. It was originally from Demon's Souls since many enemies there couldn't be staggered during their attack animations.
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    Post by Saturday-Saint Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:43 am

    I thought this thread was about backstab i-frames at first and was trying to grasp the purpose of making a thread about it.

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