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    Post by Encore Fri May 24, 2013 8:52 pm

    Please enjoy this. This is a work of fiction

    Inspiration has been taken from many sources, including other members of this community.
    Give him all the respects.


    part one:

    Part Two:

    Terminology:


    Part one is completely done. Characters: 49516. Words: 8545. Sentences: 411. Paragraphs: 133. Avg. Sentence Length: 21.

    I will no longer add any new sections to this part, instead doing minor edits.


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    Post by ResIsBestStat Fri May 24, 2013 8:54 pm

    Wait, you making a story of how the universe was created?
    FINALLY A STORY THAT IS NOT A FANFIC!
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    Post by Hatsune Miku Fri May 24, 2013 8:55 pm

    I have to completely disagree.
    I'm Methodist Christian with Catholic beliefs.
    But that is just my opinion on the matter, just as much as you have your own opinion.
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    Post by Encore Fri May 24, 2013 8:55 pm

    ResIsBestStat wrote:Wait, you making a story of how the universe was created?
    FINALLY A STORY THAT IS NOT A FANFIC!

    Not quite, A story of how the universe I am writing about was created,
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    Post by Encore Fri May 24, 2013 9:10 pm

    Fluttershy wrote:I have to completely disagree.
    I'm Methodist Christian with Catholic beliefs.
    But that is just my opinion on the matter, just as much as you have your own opinion.

    Could you explain your christian belief? Perhaps PM me. I always wanted to know more about the different kinds of christian beliefs, and would greatly appreciate if you could quickly explain it to me thumbs up
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    Post by Hatsune Miku Fri May 24, 2013 9:46 pm

    I believe in the Holy Trinity; God in three persons. God the Father, Jesus Christ Lord and Savior, and the Holy Spirit of Guidance.
    I believe everything in Word of God/The Bible, regardless of how rediculus some of it my sound. I believe altering the Word to your liking is a Sin. Such as the example: Someone might say they are a Christian/Catholic and you believe that being homosexual is ok.
    God created angels first, and gave them all the knowledge that He had. Lucifer rebelled against God. Saint Michael(I believe that is his name) and the other Angels that agreed with God's Plan, helped banish Lucifer and his fallen angels to the pits of Hell.
    Then God created the Earth and the Heavens. Gave light to the world and created all the life forms of the world, and Adam. Then created a partner named Eve to keep Adam company and help maintain the new world. But He also tested Adam and Eve through with the Fruit of Knowledge; A test in which they failed.
    There is a lot lot more things that I believe in the old and new testament. Which is all of it. Including the death of Jesus Christ on the cross for forgiveness of our Sins.
    Anyhow.
    I believe Jesus Christ is the only way to get to heaven, through forgiveness of Sin.
    I believe life is a journey of Faith. And Faith is something that you believe, with out know whether or not it is true or not.
    I've felt a huge diffirence in my life since 10th through 12th grade and even through these recent years. (I graduated from high school in 2009). I went from the brink of suicide to hanging in there and wading out 3 more years of a grand life changing experience.
    I'm a lot more happier than ever was. That doesn't mean I don't feel down at all. But for the most part my youth depression is pushing daisies. I'm mostly optimistic, rather than pessimistic.
    And that's I all that comes to mind at the moment.
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    Post by Hart Fri May 24, 2013 10:35 pm

    Great story OP, whether its a creation myth for our universe or one of your own creation/imagination, and I can't wait for you to expand.

    @Fluttershy, and not really on-topic. It is my understanding that there are only two named angels within the bible--Michael and Gabriel I think?--not including Lucifer.
    Do you have any idea where the other commonly accepted names came from--Uriel, Castiel etc.--or when they were made up if they have no biblical origins?
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    Post by Hatsune Miku Fri May 24, 2013 10:41 pm

    Hart wrote:Great story OP, whether its a creation myth for our universe or one of your own creation/imagination, and I can't wait for you to expand.

    @Fluttershy, and not really on-topic. It is my understanding that there are only two named angels within the bible--Michael and Gabriel I think?--not including Lucifer.
    Do you have any idea where the other commonly accepted names came from--Uriel, Castiel etc.--or when they were made up if they have no biblical origins?
    Gabriel??? You must be thinking about the Gabriel from Castlevania: Lords of Shadow. Other than that, you lost me.
    Say what now?
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    Post by Elifia Fri May 24, 2013 10:48 pm

    Fluttershy wrote:
    Gabriel??? You must be thinking about the Gabriel from Castlevania: Lords of Shadow. Other than that, you lost me.
    Say what now?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel
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    Post by Slarg232 Fri May 24, 2013 10:49 pm

    Nah, he's talking about God's Messenger, Gabriel. He was the Left Hand of God (Jesus being the Right).

    Micheal was the Angel of War.


    As to the OP, the only problem I have with it is the animals themselves; it seems like they were literally chosen at random. An Eagle and Bear are wildlife, but a Cat (Unspecified) is usually considered to be a Housecat. Snakes typically aren't known for agility so much as cunning, as well.

    Just my $0.02.
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    Post by Hatsune Miku Fri May 24, 2013 11:06 pm

    *facepalms to self*
    Sorry about that. I read your post the wrong way.
    And my bad for forgetting.
    Carry on.
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    Post by Hart Fri May 24, 2013 11:13 pm

    I actually think the animal choices were quite apt;

    Cat-There brains are in alpha mode at all times, and therefore many people think they can see/sense things that we cannot/are invisible. Whether this is true or not, its not such a great leap to have them used as symbols for the etheral world. Just look at Egypt.

    Bear-A physically dominant animal. Quite a good analogue for the physical world if you ask me. Other animals I might have used would be a bull or a stag (hart), but that just my personel preference and objectively I don't see them being any more appropriate than a bear.

    Snake-I think the symbolism leans more towards the cunning/avaricious aspect than the agility, the latter just being used to show how the snake helped defeat the other monstrosities. Also, the OP states that the snake weaved around the opposition to strike where they were weakest; while agility may be a prerequisite to this it also shows remarkable cunning in relation to the more straight forward methods of the others. Also, as a symbol for mortal life, the snake seems apt as the serpent in the bible is the trigger to human freedom of choice, baiting Eve into eating the apple, which although ended badly is the first symbolic act of freewill; unlike God ordering them not to eat the fruit, the serpent offers temptation but ultimately has no power to force her into doing anything, leaving the choice up to Eve. Freedom of choice being a popular way of defining a sentient form of mortal life.

    Eagle-A bird, the only mentioned bird and a particularly noble example of such. IMO a good animal comparison to a divine power.

    In response to Flutter, Gabriel is mentioned at least once in the book of Daniel, and comes upon being summoned by Daniel, to explain a vision he has been given (Daniel, 8-15 I believe or around there).
    I am not religious, Christian or otherwise so I could be wrong (don't think so though Encore's Apocrypha 4203215067).
    Also, though I doubt its likely if this kind of talk is offensive to anyone #sorry.

    edit: lol thats algood, my question was whether you knew the origin of all the other names generally attributed to other archangel e.g Uriel, Castiel and so on, as there is no mention of them in the Bible AFAIK
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    Post by Encore Sat May 25, 2013 7:01 am

    Fluttershy wrote:I believe in the Holy Trinity; God in three persons. God the Father, Jesus Christ Lord and Savior, and the Holy Spirit of Guidance.
    I believe everything in Word of God/The Bible, regardless of how rediculus some of it my sound. I believe altering the Word to your liking is a Sin. Such as the example: Someone might say they are a Christian/Catholic and you believe that being homosexual is ok.
    God created angels first, and gave them all the knowledge that He had. Lucifer rebelled against God. Saint Michael(I believe that is his name) and the other Angels that agreed with God's Plan, helped banish Lucifer and his fallen angels to the pits of Hell.
    Then God created the Earth and the Heavens. Gave light to the world and created all the life forms of the world, and Adam. Then created a partner named Eve to keep Adam company and help maintain the new world. But He also tested Adam and Eve through with the Fruit of Knowledge; A test in which they failed.
    There is a lot lot more things that I believe in the old and new testament. Which is all of it. Including the death of Jesus Christ on the cross for forgiveness of our Sins.
    Anyhow.
    I believe Jesus Christ is the only way to get to heaven, through forgiveness of Sin.
    I believe life is a journey of Faith. And Faith is something that you believe, with out know whether or not it is true or not.
    I've felt a huge diffirence in my life since 10th through 12th grade and even through these recent years. (I graduated from high school in 2009). I went from the brink of suicide to hanging in there and wading out 3 more years of a grand life changing experience.
    I'm a lot more happier than ever was. That doesn't mean I don't feel down at all. But for the most part my youth depression is pushing daisies. I'm mostly optimistic, rather than pessimistic.
    And that's I all that comes to mind at the moment.

    Thank you for elaborating, it was very interesting and I learned quite a lot. I do not really understand my own beliefs, being very skeptic to both science, faith and silly imagination as what I wrote. Reading other people opinion helps me expand my knowledge and view, and in turn help me get one step further in understanding myself.
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    Post by Serious_Much Sat May 25, 2013 7:08 am

    I'm surprised to still see Christians with such traditional beliefs about creation really.. Mine are much less so silly

    You ever read Job flutter? Regardless of being in the bible it's a good read by its own merit.
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    Post by Encore Sat May 25, 2013 7:31 am

    Slarg232 wrote:Nah, he's talking about God's Messenger, Gabriel. He was the Left Hand of God (Jesus being the Right).

    Micheal was the Angel of War.


    As to the OP, the only problem I have with it is the animals themselves; it seems like they were literally chosen at random. An Eagle and Bear are wildlife, but a Cat (Unspecified) is usually considered to be a Housecat. Snakes typically aren't known for agility so much as cunning, as well.

    Just my $0.02.

    I have to say this, there is a difference what animal are "known for" And what they are. Snakes are very agile, many has to be by nature. They are only hunted by animals far more agile then them.
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    Post by Serious_Much Sat May 25, 2013 7:47 am

    Tehdoomgrasp wrote:
    Slarg232 wrote:Nah, he's talking about God's Messenger, Gabriel. He was the Left Hand of God (Jesus being the Right).

    Micheal was the Angel of War.


    As to the OP, the only problem I have with it is the animals themselves; it seems like they were literally chosen at random. An Eagle and Bear are wildlife, but a Cat (Unspecified) is usually considered to be a Housecat. Snakes typically aren't known for agility so much as cunning, as well.

    Just my $0.02.

    I have to say this, there is a difference what animal are "known for" And what they are. Snakes are very agile, many has to be by nature. They are only hunted by animals far more agile then them.

    I have to agree with teh here.

    Fact is cats are a great choice- for thousands of years they've been immortalised and deified, particularly the ancient Egyptians

    The snake, I have to say is definitely cunning, you look back to genesis in the bible- the snake was the one that got adam and eve to eat the apple (supposedly), the snake has always been viewed in general as an animal of both cunning, and deception.

    The other two choice- bear and eagle are perfectly fine really, though arguably there's better animals to represent strength than a bear
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    Post by ResIsBestStat Sat May 25, 2013 7:49 am

    WE NEED A PIG!
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    Post by Encore Sat May 25, 2013 8:05 am

    And from the pig rose the eternally replenishing bacon

    Seriously though, I need some help. I´ve intend on updating this story untill I see fit, but I do not want to make the original post to long, any advice on how to do that?
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    Post by Slarg232 Sat May 25, 2013 1:56 pm

    Fair enough you guys, but still have to find you all wrong and invalid Encore's Apocrypha 385578416


    You could just Spoiler each section. That way you can fit it all into the first post, but it's not too long since you can Spoiler/Unspoiler whatever you're reading.

    And for the record, I would worship a bacon-handing-out-deity.
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    Post by Encore Sat May 25, 2013 1:59 pm

    Slarg232 wrote:Fair enough you guys, but still have to find you all wrong and invalid Encore's Apocrypha 385578416


    You could just Spoiler each section. That way you can fit it all into the first post, but it's not too long since you can Spoiler/Unspoiler whatever you're reading.

    And for the record, I would worship a bacon-handing-out-deity.

    I did that spoiler thing.

    About the animal, you have the right to your own opinion, and if you want to keep reading, be happy that that part is over.
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    Post by Slarg232 Sat May 25, 2013 2:07 pm

    Oh no, I wasn't going to complain about it further, I was just giving my feedback.

    It's your shpeel, not mine silly
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    Post by Encore Sat May 25, 2013 5:15 pm

    I am now writing the summaries of the six divines, and I am with the one for the first of the six.
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    Post by Hart Sat May 25, 2013 7:56 pm

    OP, have you read anything about the Annunaki mythology? I thinkit may be something you would find interesting, or might provide some inspiration.
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    Post by Encore Sat May 25, 2013 7:57 pm

    I have not read anything, I would love it if you would provide me with sources online.
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    Post by Hart Sat May 25, 2013 8:07 pm

    Here are some links
    http://www.hidden-truth.org/aliens/species/annunaki

    http://ancientaliensdebunked.com/references-and-transcripts/anunnaki/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anunnaki

    http://www.truthbeknown.com/anunnaki.htm

    You may want to take some of it with a grain of salt, as the idea has gained popularity recently with conspiracy theorists and so on.
    But it is an interesting mythos; basically another take on the Sumerian/Babylonian pantheon.

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