Critical Hit Restrictions?

goober0331 wrote:

But I dont like the concept of taking damage while performing a bs/parry. That would make fighting against gankers nearly impossible, especially with the before mentioned additions, or against mobs.

BrotherBob wrote:I like the idea of friendly fire. When an invader attempts a backstab or riposte on the host, the phantom will have the opportunity to attack the invader and (potentially) cancel the invader's backstab/riposte but at the expense of possibly hitting the host as well. Maybe they'll make a trophy that you can get by invading and having a phantom kill the host.

Animaaal wrote:Lastly, imo, the thing that makes co-op so easy is the lack of soul level restrictions on weapons/upgrades.  I hope that changes too.

Animaaal wrote:NO ONE, at least almost no one invades with level appropriate gear anymore.  Its become common practice.

Animaaal wrote:Also, I'm not trying to be aggressive in my argument, I think we just might share a difference in preferred pvp.

I just think it has HUGE drawbacks in an environment where you're so dependent on your teammate if in that environment.

Gwyndolin is able to keep his phantoms from making contact onto each other, as are Alvina and Kaathe.

Forum Pirate wrote:you're aware that reds can (and do) hurt each other? Its only blues that can't attack other blues, and dms and dws can both invade members of their own cov.

Shakie666 wrote:Maybe From should just introduce frontstabs. At least them people in DkS2 would have something new to moan about.

LunarFog wrote: You're an ignorant little niggler if you think that the BS mechanic isn't broken.  Backstabs are COMPLETELY situational in concept and it should be the same in gameplay too.  They're supposed to be for people to have an advantage if they catch their opponent unaware, and to punish sloppy gameplay.  They aren't supposed to be the main core of combat.  And I HOPE you aren't going to try to argue that backstabs purpose is to have Dark Souls PvP revolve around it.

O1va_ wrote:
I know this is kind of late to post, but I haven't been online for awhile and I find this insulting. I have never stated that BS purpose is to have PvP revolve around it. If you can't manage with the BS mechanic it doesn't make it broken, it makes you unable to deal with it.

The friendly fire idea is propably the worst thing i've read in this thread. It's not even about criticals anymore, you want to wreck the whole co-oping. Why would an griefer even invade when he can be summoned to ruin the hosts day?

It really sounds like many of you just should play some more PvP. Theres no need to nerf ganking, no need for invaders having no friendly fire and jolly co-invading. You should have hard time to defeat gankers, theres 2 or 3 of them, why should it be easy? If you can't deal with it, don't invade. Simple solution wihout wrecking other peoples games. I like invading the forest just the way it is now, if you don't like it, then don't invade there.