Dark Souls 2 pyromancy, guard break & miracles explained

http://www.vg247.com/2013/07/04/dark-souls-2-pyromancy-guard-break-miracles-explained-in-new-famitsu/

All sounds pretty interesting to me. 

From the sound of thing it looks like Pyromancy IS returning, and will have some new tricks up it's sleeve just how Sorcery will. 

It also spells out a few unseen spells, pyros and miracles. Like a new fireball that hurts targets AND the caster, plus a new miracle that functions like an attack and defense buff. 

It also shed some light on items, like a new grass that doesn't replenish your health but your castings.

Nothing really new in there, it's just vg247 summarising a reddit post that was (mostly) summarising the famitsu article/presentation.


Game Trailers has a 30ish min discussion vid (ep 3 or ep4 ) where they talk about a lot of this stuff and mention the Attack/Defense buff miracle and Twilight and Amber Grasses that will replenish your spells (not sure how this works yet).

Also not sure if pyromancy is returning or if it's being merged into sorcery, atm it looks like it's going back to the DeS style of being a sorcery, but this effects Lore in DaS so it will be interesting to see what happens and how it's explained in DaS2.


Reading the linked reddit article will yield the better info.

Well this is news to me, though it may be cause i'm avoiding spoilers were possible.

Also if we can restore casts with grass then I guess scorceries will be pretty weak, like in DeS but without firestorm.

Or just fewer casts.

Instead of... say 20, you get 12.

edible items that restore you spell usage

"edible grass that restores your number of magic uses"

grass is non addictive

Wow guys, unbunch your panties.

We don't know how this will work yet, whether it will restore all spells, or just the one you're got selected to cast, or if it will restore 1 cast or all casts, in fact we know pretty much nothing.

FFS have some faith that FROM knows what they're doing.


As far as I am aware the Grasses were in the Demo but they didn't do anything, one reviewer stated this in a gameplay review a while ago, but for the life of me I can't find it. The quote was something along the line of "there were also two grasses, amber and twilight, but they didn't appear to do anything".

They were also mentioned in the 35ish minute Game Trailers vid right at the end. Here.
For info go look in the big DaSII all info so far thread sticky'd at the top of this subforum.


I posted the reddit thread this article is referencing a few days back, here for those interested: https://soulswiki.forumotion.com/t22826-new-information-from-the-recent-dasii-presentation-in-tokyo


Here's info on the guard break move (it's replacing the kick fwiw):

- Instead of kick you now you give enemies a shove with your weapon hand. The power of that shove changes based on the weapon you have. The heavier the weapon, the more force you can push them with to make additional space. But, heavy weapon means longer animation. Short weapons don't give much space, but it's faster. Whether the kick returns, however, is still undecided, a Namco rep told says.

Link: http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/20/co-opinion-dark-souls-2/#continued

WAIT! What if the grass only restores the castings of your currently selected spell!? That would be a lot better than DeS. You would only be able to continuously cast one spell. Personally, I wish they brought back mana, but employed a silver/blue estus type flask that could only be recharged at bonfires, and have very few outside mana restore items. But then I don't know what Summons and Invaders would do.

I would like them to have a spell(s) like Heal, Great Heal and Great Heal Excerpt but for magic rather than health. Casting time would be the same as the heal spells, with a similar number of charges. Great Heal would Replenish up to 5 Casts (more for selected low power spells), Heal would replenish 2 Casts (again more for selected spells) and Great Heal Excerpt would do the same as Great Heal but you'd only get 1 cast.

That way you can have a limited number of recharges, you wouldn't be able to spam it mid fight, it wouldn't be a farmable item, and you would need to sacrifice an attunement slot for the privilege.

StiffNipples wrote:atm it looks like it's going back to the DeS style of being a sorcery, but this effects Lore in DaS so it will be interesting to see what happens and how it's explained

If this is a prequel like many suspect it will be, there really won't be any lore clashing or complications.  The Izalith Catalyst description states that in Dark Souls's past, Flame Sorceries were used instead of Pyromancy.