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    Post by Leet Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:58 pm

    Soul of Stray Demon wrote:I disagree, I've had many times in the forest where not only will they bow, but a catbro may actually not fight till I finish the current one.
    A couple situations that have happened doesn't change the fact the forest is a lawless place for PvP. It's filled with gankers, who laugh at your honor.
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    Post by Soul of Stray Demon Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:59 pm

    TooLeet wrote:
    Soul of Stray Demon wrote:I disagree, I've had many times in the forest where not only will they bow, but a catbro may actually not fight till I finish the current one.
    A couple situations that have happened doesn't change the fact the forest is a lawless place for PvP. It's filled with gankers, who laugh at your honor.
    Every popular pvp place is filled with gankers.
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    Post by Leet Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:01 pm

    Soul of Stray Demon wrote:
    TooLeet wrote:
    Soul of Stray Demon wrote:I disagree, I've had many times in the forest where not only will they bow, but a catbro may actually not fight till I finish the current one.
    A couple situations that have happened doesn't change the fact the forest is a lawless place for PvP. It's filled with gankers, who laugh at your honor.
    Every popular pvp place is filled with gankers.
    Not the the degree the forest does. I can't believe you're even trying to argue this.
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    Post by Serious_Much Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:12 pm

    It's pretty much dark souls 101 that you go to the forest if you wanna gank or be ganked. It's the meta the forest set up
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    Post by Soul of Stray Demon Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:15 pm

    I'm arguing from my own experience of it, although I do understand that doesn't really mean much. 

    Just saying, Some catbro's do have a sense of "honor."
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    Post by KrazykevS10 Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:45 pm

    I've seen what Demon described,I've been a catbro that waited but I don't so much try to play nice anymore. If you are trying to duel in the forest,chances are I'll just jump in and kill you for the lulz. I used to be an honour brigade kind of guy but thousands of fights in that lawless place changed how I play. People shouldn't be expecting duels there anyway,it always was the worst place with ganking.
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    Post by Serious_Much Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:46 pm

    Well yeah obviously some will (as I tried and failed to do in my time as a catbro), but I think that's a pretty small minority.. The forest has always been the darkest place for pvp, be it on honour, glitches, exploits mods or whatever. Always gonna be exceptions, but those are likely the exceptions that make the rule
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    Post by Leet Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:11 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:Well yeah obviously some will (as I tried and failed to do in my time as a catbro), but I think that's a pretty small minority.. The forest has always been the darkest place for pvp, be it on honour, glitches, exploits mods or whatever. Always gonna be exceptions, but those are likely the exceptions that make the rule

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    Post by Soul of Stray Demon Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:12 pm

    Lots of people have a bad time in dark souls anyways. It happens.
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    Post by Leet Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:14 pm

    Soul of Stray Demon wrote:Lots of people have a bad time in dark souls anyways. It happens.
    I feel like you're arguing for the sake of arguing. 
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    Post by Soul of Stray Demon Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:18 pm

    Maybe somewhat, on the other hand, any of my characters that are catbros tend to be quite respectful, so I'm defending them too.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:24 pm

    GrinTwist wrote:
    ninjashifty wrote:Been doing some invading and I've found, it's everyone for themselves. I've watched two guys fight and didn't interfere while invading. One guy kept using divine blessings, against another guys, so I decided to intervene. We both killed the invader only for the host to start using divine blessings. So I've decided, there are no fair fights. It's kill or be killed. No bowing anymore, just suck the sharp end of my sword or spear.

    Any thoughts?
    If you want TO BE GANKED I would suggest using the RSS not invading. Invading is the best way not to get an honorable duel, granted some hosts use the dried finger in order to get invaders but that isn't always the case. There is always the chance that you're invading someone that doesn't want to be invaded and they'll probably want you out of their game by any means necessary.

    Fixed that for you
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    Post by Leet Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:25 pm

    Soul of Stray Demon wrote:Maybe somewhat, on the other hand, any of my characters that are catbros tend to be quite respectful, so I'm defending them too.

    Serious_Much wrote:Well yeah obviously some will (as I tried and failed to do in my time as a catbro), but I think that's a pretty small minority.. The forest has always been the darkest place for pvp, be it on honour, glitches, exploits mods or whatever. Always gonna be exceptions, but those are likely the exceptions that make the rule
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    Post by Soul of Stray Demon Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:26 pm

    If you're invading in the forest though, you're pretty much guaranteed to invade someone who want's to PvP.
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    Post by Leet Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:29 pm

    Soul of Stray Demon wrote:If you're invading in the forest though, you're pretty much guaranteed to invade someone who want's to PvP.
    I don't understand your point. Everyone is aware of that.
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    Post by Soul of Stray Demon Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:32 pm

    Sorry, meant it as a reply to someone's post, just ignore.
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    Post by Lord of Ash Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:51 pm

    Well Honor Is Out the Door - Page 2 Th?id=H.5010879294672358&pid=15This is honor
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    Post by reim0027 Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:03 pm

    It is so frustrating when people try to bring "honor" into the Forest. The Forest is perfect. It is an all out war. No holds barred. I love the feeling when I outsmart a host and his ganking phantom; putting them in their place. I also love it when I'm getting my arse kicked and see a catbro spawning who then rushes in to help. I'm like "backup is here!" It is a different type of PvP. That doesn't make it wrong. IMO, it is wrong, dishonorable even, to change the Forest. Go have your honor duels elsewhere.

    And, BTW, I feel the same about the moonpit and PW, only in the opposite accord. Those places are where honor duels take place. It would be wrong to be ganking in that area. If you want to gank, go to the Forest.
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    Post by Lord of Ash Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:13 pm

    reim0027 wrote:It is so frustrating when people try to bring "honor" into the Forest.  The Forest is perfect.  It is an all out war.  No holds barred.  I love the feeling when I outsmart a host and his ganking phantom; putting them in their place.  I also love it when I'm getting my arse kicked and see a catbro spawning who then rushes in to help.  I'm like "backup is here!"  It is a different type of PvP.  That doesn't make it wrong.  IMO, it is wrong, dishonorable even, to change the Forest.  Go have your honor duels elsewhere.  

    And, BTW, I feel the same about the moonpit and PW, only in the opposite accord.  Those places are where honor duels take place.  It would be wrong to be ganking in that area.  If you want to gank, go to the Forest.
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    Post by Hawkins172 Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:14 pm

    TooLeet wrote:
    Hawkins172 wrote:i don't see why anyone would expect honour in a game. suit yourself if you bow or not. i do bow most of the times(if i get the chance) but thats for my own sense of honour not because i expect anyone else to have a sense of honour.
    If you don't expect honor out of anyone else, why would you bow? I would just BS you as your bowing. But i have play with "honor" so i bow back. If i go somewhere like the forest where i know no one cares about that i won't bow once, because i'll just regret it.
     but thats for my own sense of honour not because i expect anyone else to have a sense of honour. did you somehow miss that part bro?
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    Post by Leet Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:31 pm

    Hawkins172 wrote:
    TooLeet wrote:
    Hawkins172 wrote:i don't see why anyone would expect honour in a game. suit yourself if you bow or not. i do bow most of the times(if i get the chance) but thats for my own sense of honour not because i expect anyone else to have a sense of honour.
    If you don't expect honor out of anyone else, why would you bow? I would just BS you as your bowing. But i have play with "honor" so i bow back. If i go somewhere like the forest where i know no one cares about that i won't bow once, because i'll just regret it.
     but thats for my own sense of honour not because i expect anyone else to have a sense of honour. did you somehow miss that part bro?
    You're clearly not understanding what i'm trying to say. And it seems you are being a smartass so i'm not going to even try to reiterate. Also, don't call me "bro." I am not your "bro."
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    Post by Hawkins172 Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:39 pm

    how am i being a smartass when asking you a question? if you feel that way about it fine. but then don't bother asking me a question when i clearly state why i bow to other players. and about the not being bro's part fair enough.
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    Post by Soul of Stray Demon Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:43 pm

    I think the main point is that everyone should play out as they want, (as long as that doesn't involve hacking,) and that if someone has more fun rushing in, then they should, but if you have more fun bowing and letting them bow back, then you should do that instead. It's just whatever you want to do, even in a place like the forest.
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    Post by MosquitoPower Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:30 pm

    reim0027 wrote:It is so frustrating when people try to bring "honor" into the Forest.  The Forest is perfect.  It is an all out war.  No holds barred.  I love the feeling when I outsmart a host and his ganking phantom; putting them in their place.  I also love it when I'm getting my arse kicked and see a catbro spawning who then rushes in to help.  I'm like "backup is here!"  It is a different type of PvP.  That doesn't make it wrong.  IMO, it is wrong, dishonorable even, to change the Forest.  Go have your honor duels elsewhere.  
    Im with you on the idea of the forest being a war zone.

    Its like the Warhammer online at low levels, just a mad house of crazy at the capture points.
    The only thing that needs to change in the forest is to have a higher summon rate for us catbros and more multiples of invaders Moons and Darkwraths for even more chaos!

    It needs to be mandatory for Hosts to have a team of three in the forest to hold off the waves of crazy!

    Besides, all the honorable one on one duels happen at the Arena!
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    Post by Soul of Stray Demon Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:39 pm

    and yet I can never ever get an arena match to work.

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