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    So, what is your downfall in PvP?

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    Post by Aigaios Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:19 pm

    As the title seys what is your downfall in PvP? What gets you killed all the time and why, is it a weapon you cant parry or maby caster builds.

    For me its a weird one, I wouldn't really call it too powerful but when I face someone using it I just feel like jumping off a cliff. Have you guessed it yet? Its turtling, especially with a thrusting sword. Not even that when I get invaded by a player that only holds his shield up or tryes to avoid fighting all the time, I get frustrated so much that I either spam all the magic I have to kill them as fast as I can or continually attack. A lot of the time this ends up getting me punished and killed.

    I can deal with BS fishers, casting spammers and DWGR users and by deal i dont mean win all the time i mean i just dont really find them annoying but with turtling I just feel like banging my head on the wall. So, what about you?
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    Post by lonewolf Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:22 pm

    mine has to be the dragonslayer spear or club 2hand roll r1 spammers
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    Post by GrinTwist Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:25 pm

    The dragonslayer spear, but not in the hands of a new player. I can win if you're incompetent with it but against someone that knows what they're doing I never have the time to counter.
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    Post by Serious_Much Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:30 pm

    The fact I don't play enough, and the fact I shackle myself with honour. Sad times to be honest.
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    Post by Zeta Prime Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:32 pm

    ninja flipping washing pole.
    there was nothing I could do..
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    Post by DOOM996 Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:13 pm

    I would say BS fishing but i´am working on it, i´am still a newbie when it comes to the PvP aspect of the game though.
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    Post by Uparkaam Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:14 pm

    :mask-child: 
    Spear 
    :sign: (pretend it's DWGR)
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    Post by Soul of Stray Demon Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:49 pm

    Pivot-Stabs and my inability to parry in PvP.
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:27 pm

     Miscalculation and rapiers.
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    Post by Thxodore Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:59 pm

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    Post by Latitoast Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:03 pm

    Darkwood Grain Ring.
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    Post by deadagain Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:21 pm

    LAG!!!
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    Post by Pilgrim34 Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:03 pm

    Playing against fast buffed weapons on a laggy connection.
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    Post by Wilkinson3424 Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:43 pm

    The Dragonslayer spear is definitely my kryptonite.

    The thing is fast, it stunlocks, it has huge range, it does crazy amounts of damage due to many pieces of armours being low on lightning defense.


    Overall a really powerful weapon in the hands of someone trained with it.
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    Post by Leet Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:50 pm

    Wilks mentioned a good one. 

    Also, i have an issue with big weapon + CMW + hornet ring + DWGR. That, paired with lag is my worst nightmare. Usually when i play people with buffs i evade them until their buff runs out and i go in for the kill. But, everything looks better on paper. Lag can cause some crazy things to happen.

    Also what i have a problem with, are people that are better than me. Most people on here can vouch that i hold my own. But occasionally i'll run into people who are flat out better than me in which i have no answer for. They tend to be twitchbro tryhards so i don't feel bad it does happen occasionally. 
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    Post by Jiub of Carim Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:54 pm

    nothing. I'm MLG and I never lose.


    jk

    I'd probably say anyone with a spear, DWGR, and a bow! or a katana build with crystal magic weapon and lots of poise. stuff tears my fatrolling strength build up if I don't play a lot different than against other opponents.
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    Post by OminousSquaffle Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:17 pm

    Spears, particularly the Dragonslayer spear. I always go with low-poise builds (36 max without the Wolf Ring tossed on) and I ALWAYS get stunlocked to death. Even if I toggle out they just hit me again with the insane range.

    Oh, and Pursuers. Dark Bead is insanely easy to dodge/punish but laggy Pursuers are just a bowl of exploding death pudding.
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    Post by theGentleman Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:14 pm

    I'm too lazy to master the mechanical exploits that some of the top tier PvPers use.

    Just toggle-off, roll right through me, backstab . . . watch me die. I can dead-angle like a mug but never felt like abusing my right control stick to that extent.

    Also, because I do a lot of low-mid level PvP, I have died plenty caught between a wall and a claymore combo.
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    Post by reim0027 Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:26 pm

    Kats.  Without a question.  Then there's spears.  Followed by stupidity (on my part).  Last, but not least, skill (not on my part again).

    Forgot to mention - rifter. He combines all of those into a solid cheek-kicking romp.

    That about sums it up.  That's how to beat me, and beat me easily.
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    Post by SlintEastwood Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:44 am

    I don't really have much of a problem with long spears as long as I have a Chaos Blade handy.

    However, I do tend to have issues against the Kumo. I also have problems with the Estoc if someone is really good with it.
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    Post by Bassman Bob Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:28 pm

    Dead-angling.
    Gankers (In a situation where a third one appears outta nowhere)
    Lag (i live in finland and use an usb-based mobile interweb thingy).
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    Post by StiffNipples Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:22 pm

    I RP Tarkus 90% of the time when I PvP these days, and the only thing that is almost certain to kill me is Magic (Pyromancy/Miracles not included).  
     
    I fat roll and have stellar australian internet (read: it's f**king terrible).  
     
    I regularly hit midway through a roll with things like CSS, character completely breaks animation and stands up and gets poise broken. Walls are just illusions and don't stop Souls Spears/Pursuers, and having my shield up doesn't guarantee it will work. 
     
    Mainly because of timezones I seem to always PvP against Europe and laggy people like Bassman silly 
     
    Russia seems fine, Finland, Poland, and most people from the UK, if they're using magic it's about99% certain I'm dead sad
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    Post by The_Red_Drifter Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:57 pm

    My midroll builds tend to get roll bsed a lot.
    My magic build can get shut down pretty early by strong anti magic stuff and is fragile.
    My dex pyro tends to get do well, but depending on what weapon I have out I can get stomped by weapon counters, and I have nothing to combat spell users relying on certain tactics. I tend to get greedier on that build, so I get parried a bit easier too.
    Lag is my bane on anything, unless the other player can't abuse it, which usually ends in me bleeding them to death.

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