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    Post by Soul of Stray Demon Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:36 pm

    Has anyone else experienced the red phantom enemy invaders?

    I was in the painted world playing unpatched Dark Souls, so it was offline, and I saw red phantom versions of those toxic torch wielders and of bonewheels. I had died to the bonewheel ones, and when I went back they were gone. I had tested it and they only appeared when I was human. And once I killed Priscilla they were gone for good. 

    It's only happened in the painted world so far, and I've only seen it this playthrough. 

    Does anyone have any idea what this is?
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    Post by theGentleman Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:51 pm

    It sounds pretty consistent with a Gravelord.
      Because it was offline I would say that it was a glitch or somehow you weren't as offline as you thought.
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    Post by Soul of Stray Demon Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:59 pm

    theGentleman wrote:It sounds pretty consistent with a Gravelord.
      Because it was offline I would say that it was a glitch or somehow you weren't as offline as you thought.
    I had to be offline, I was playing unpatched and I can't use xbox live right now. 


    There were several differences between this and gravelords.

    They were only around while human. They disappeared when I killed Priscilla. They had the same health as normal ones, but did more damage. And they were a lighter shade of red. More like a bright glowing red. 

    I know it wasn't gravelording, unless it was just some super glitched up in multiple ways.
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    Post by GaryBlevins Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:14 pm

    Photo or it didn't happen
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    Post by Soul of Stray Demon Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:17 pm

    GaryBlevins wrote:Photo or it didn't happen
    Sadly, I forgot to take one.
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    Post by Hart Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:50 pm

    GaryBlevins wrote:Photo or it didn't happen
    This lol. Not because I don't believe you but I'm very interested in this little find.

    IMO its possible, that as you're playing unpatched you ran into a bug/glitch that has been unfound/recorded up till now. Its a slim chance but still a possibility.

    Could you go into detail about everything odd/significant you have done this playthrough?
    Throughout the entire game would be good, but specifically in the painted world. It all sounds very cool and I wouldn't mind some more info to go on with regards to trying to replicate it.
    I've heard rumors about offline invasions and red phantom enemies appearing in Anor Londo aswell, and I've always wanted to look into it, but the info out there is hard to find or plain BS.
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    Post by xKStonex Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:27 am

    I also experienced this while Dark Souls was first released! I was also playing an unpatched version, which was on my PS3 that I didn't have connected to my internet.

    Like yourself, I only found these red phantom enemies in the Painted World - It was my first play through and I couldn't warp out of Painted World so it was very difficult and frustrating. I've never experienced it since. I couldn't find any information about it at the time, and Since it was later October I'd just assumed it was some kind of halloween-related happening that had been programmed into the game.
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    Post by Uparkaam Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:34 am

    From included those BP mobs in the Painted World so that offline players could get a taste of BP mobs.
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    Post by Acarnatia Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:49 am

    I dealt with this before I got my ps3 online as well.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:03 am

    they are meant to be there, same reason as we have lautrec the guilty and solaire. to experience the online stuff while not online
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    Post by Soul of Stray Demon Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:28 pm

    While thanks everyone, That makes sense then. I'm wondering though why they were removed during the patches. But that's great info to know my game wouldn't be bugging out.
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    Post by retro Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:43 am

    It's not a bug, it's a rarely-recognized feature! In the pre-patched version of the game (possibly even into later patches), you can experience a forced Gravelord infection if you're playing offline in the Painted World.

    Like billy said, it's one of the ways the game tried to offer you a slice of the online experience if you can only play the game offline.
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    Post by Latitoast Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:57 am

    At least it's not BP mobs from the DLC.

    I remember them...

    Oh the horror...
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    Post by Hue Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:55 am

    Latitoast wrote:At least it's not BP mobs from the DLC.

    I remember them...

    Oh the horror...
    Need BP Kalameet
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    Post by twigsterxd Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:02 am

    GaryBlevins wrote:Photo or it didn't happen
    I agree. I play offline 99.9% of the time and have NEVER seen this happen.
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    Post by retro Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:14 pm

    twigsterxd wrote:
    GaryBlevins wrote:Photo or it didn't happen
    It is a trustworthy account, a lot of people have experienced it (only in the Painted World). From various reports it appears to require:

    1) Playing the game unpatched
    2) Playing in human form
    3) Priscilla must be alive

    Here's a thread I posted about after a bunch of people on reddit were discussing it:
    https://soulswiki.forumotion.com/t7793-regarding-the-offline-gravelord-black-phantoms-of-the-painted-world

    DoughGuy wrote:It occured to me everytime I went human in the PW pre patch.  If I went hollow they disappeared, but as soon as I went human again they appeared.  Hasnt happened since I got the 1.05 patch.  There is no sign, no way to stop them apart from killing Pris.
    RandelOolacile wrote:I experienced this. It is the bloated dudes and the skeleton wheels!
    Also -
    http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/606312-dark-souls/65670970
    http://www.ps3trophies.org/forum/dark-souls/140040-gravelord-effect-offline.html
    http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/606312-dark-souls/65102121
    http://forums.demonssouls.info/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=15915
    http://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls/comments/1kusnt/um_are_there_supposed_to_be_random_red_phantom/cbsyerf

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