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strongest human in dark souls
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NathanC- Casual
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- Post n°76
Re: strongest human in dark souls
Has anyone considered making characters with the exact stats of said NPC's, cosplaying, and then dueling?
Soul of Stray Demon- Revived
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- Post n°77
Re: strongest human in dark souls
Gonna say it, Realism wise, all the NPCs are dead.....
Actually, any of the mid rollers or slow rollers, automatically lose, unless they drop some of that weight. If they aren't fast enough to catch up to a fast moving ranged fighter, then they just wouldn't stand a chance.
So now we have, Pharis, Dusk (who is actually a candidate due to her ability to disguise herself,) Logan, Chester, Jeremiah (who will win against pretty much any magic user, including Logan), Mildred, Beatrice, Oswald (if he fast rolls), and the forest ninja, (if I'm not forgetting anyone.)
I would argue, either, Chester, Jeremiah, Forest Ninja, Dusk, or Pharis.
Most likely the forest ninja, just because he's almost invisible, and he has good close range fighting, and will stunlock any of the other fast rollers. (So basically, he counteracts all long ranged fighting (they wouldn't be able to hit him), and they wouldn't be able to escape his stunlock)
Actually, any of the mid rollers or slow rollers, automatically lose, unless they drop some of that weight. If they aren't fast enough to catch up to a fast moving ranged fighter, then they just wouldn't stand a chance.
So now we have, Pharis, Dusk (who is actually a candidate due to her ability to disguise herself,) Logan, Chester, Jeremiah (who will win against pretty much any magic user, including Logan), Mildred, Beatrice, Oswald (if he fast rolls), and the forest ninja, (if I'm not forgetting anyone.)
I would argue, either, Chester, Jeremiah, Forest Ninja, Dusk, or Pharis.
Most likely the forest ninja, just because he's almost invisible, and he has good close range fighting, and will stunlock any of the other fast rollers. (So basically, he counteracts all long ranged fighting (they wouldn't be able to hit him), and they wouldn't be able to escape his stunlock)
SpecterOranges- Casual
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- Post n°78
Re: strongest human in dark souls
Heavy armor isn't bad in real life. Heavy armor is built to deal with inferior weaponry. That's why a lot of western weapons were developed to crush armor whereas a lot of eastern weaponry was developed to cut very easily. Westerners used a lot heavier armor and a lot of cavalry. Which was why polearms were developed. Heavy armor just shrugs off a lot of normal weapons with no real damage. Rapiers are used to attack between the plates of heavier armors instead of attacking the armor itself, as a side-note.
Come to think of it, if someone could ride horses, this would be over pretty quickly since cavalry generally beats everything in early war practices, especially Gwyn's lightning bombardment.
...........? Wait... if their lightning spears were used as bombardment as a catapult would... then why do so few people in this world have the knowledge to use that? Curious...
Ah, anyway... again, really, are there no horses in this world? If that's the case, are they in a place without horses? Because that significantly changes the equation if so.
Come to think of it, if someone could ride horses, this would be over pretty quickly since cavalry generally beats everything in early war practices, especially Gwyn's lightning bombardment.
...........? Wait... if their lightning spears were used as bombardment as a catapult would... then why do so few people in this world have the knowledge to use that? Curious...
Ah, anyway... again, really, are there no horses in this world? If that's the case, are they in a place without horses? Because that significantly changes the equation if so.
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- Post n°79
Re: strongest human in dark souls
Yeah, but armor made of stone is just ridiculous. It's totally inefficient. And I don't believe they can mount anything in battle. (Well they could ride a hollow or something, but you know what I mean.) The thing is, that in Dark Souls, the attacks will penetrate enough. And all you need then is speed and range, and you can beat any heavy attacker.SpecterOranges wrote:Heavy armor isn't bad in real life. Heavy armor is built to deal with inferior weaponry. That's why a lot of western weapons were developed to crush armor whereas a lot of eastern weaponry was developed to cut very easily. Westerners used a lot heavier armor and a lot of cavalry. Which was why polearms were developed.
Come to think of it, if someone could ride horses, this would be over pretty quickly since cavalry generally beats everything in early war practices, especially Gwyn's lightning bombardment.
...........? Wait... if their lightning spears were used as bombardment as a catapult would... then why do so few people in this world have the knowledge to use that? Curious...
Ah, anyway... again, really, are there no horses in this world? If that's the case, are they in a place without horses? Because that significantly changes the equation if so.
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- Post n°80
Re: strongest human in dark souls
But that's going back to mechanics.Soul of Stray Demon wrote:Yeah, but armor made of stone is just ridiculous. It's totally inefficient. And I don't believe they can mount anything in battle. (Well they could ride a hollow or something, but you know what I mean.) The thing is, that in Dark Souls, the attacks will penetrate enough. And all you need then is speed and range, and you can beat any heavy attacker.SpecterOranges wrote:Heavy armor isn't bad in real life. Heavy armor is built to deal with inferior weaponry. That's why a lot of western weapons were developed to crush armor whereas a lot of eastern weaponry was developed to cut very easily. Westerners used a lot heavier armor and a lot of cavalry. Which was why polearms were developed.
Come to think of it, if someone could ride horses, this would be over pretty quickly since cavalry generally beats everything in early war practices, especially Gwyn's lightning bombardment.
...........? Wait... if their lightning spears were used as bombardment as a catapult would... then why do so few people in this world have the knowledge to use that? Curious...
Ah, anyway... again, really, are there no horses in this world? If that's the case, are they in a place without horses? Because that significantly changes the equation if so.
While Havel's armor is ridiculous, Tarkus's would be effective at deflecting arrows.
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- Post n°81
Re: strongest human in dark souls
While still considering the speed, and being fired from a bow wielder with the same skill as one who can shoot down a dragon while blind, I would think Pharis could just aim right at the weak spots.SpecterOranges wrote:But that's going back to mechanics.Soul of Stray Demon wrote:Yeah, but armor made of stone is just ridiculous. It's totally inefficient. And I don't believe they can mount anything in battle. (Well they could ride a hollow or something, but you know what I mean.) The thing is, that in Dark Souls, the attacks will penetrate enough. And all you need then is speed and range, and you can beat any heavy attacker.SpecterOranges wrote:Heavy armor isn't bad in real life. Heavy armor is built to deal with inferior weaponry. That's why a lot of western weapons were developed to crush armor whereas a lot of eastern weaponry was developed to cut very easily. Westerners used a lot heavier armor and a lot of cavalry. Which was why polearms were developed.
Come to think of it, if someone could ride horses, this would be over pretty quickly since cavalry generally beats everything in early war practices, especially Gwyn's lightning bombardment.
...........? Wait... if their lightning spears were used as bombardment as a catapult would... then why do so few people in this world have the knowledge to use that? Curious...
Ah, anyway... again, really, are there no horses in this world? If that's the case, are they in a place without horses? Because that significantly changes the equation if so.
While Havel's armor is ridiculous, Tarkus's would be effective at deflecting arrows.
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- Post n°82
Re: strongest human in dark souls
Tarkus has no weak spots.
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- Post n°83
Re: strongest human in dark souls
Except high places. Darn vertigo.Xero wrote:Tarkus has no weak spots.
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- Post n°84
Re: strongest human in dark souls
Lore wise i would have to vote for either Logan or the eldest daughter of chaos.
Logan is presumably the most powerful magic user in lordran (we don't know how powerful Beatrice is), all of his spell descriptions say that his magics were "on par with the armaments of ancient lords" which implies they are equivalent to Gywn's lighting at the height of his power. furthermore he ends up creating a spell which replicates Seath the scaleless' power, the last remaining ancient dragon. Thats pretty OP.
The eldest daughter of chaos presumably was around during the dragon wars, she must of taken part in the great fire-storm weaving, she also must have known fire magic before pyromancy was born. Being the eldest i assume she was the most powerful of the daughters, and the fact that she remains in Izalith and hasn't turned into a hideous demon is impressive. The only reason i would put her as more powerful than Quelana is because she uses Chaos pyromancies, which seem to be more powerful.
Logan is presumably the most powerful magic user in lordran (we don't know how powerful Beatrice is), all of his spell descriptions say that his magics were "on par with the armaments of ancient lords" which implies they are equivalent to Gywn's lighting at the height of his power. furthermore he ends up creating a spell which replicates Seath the scaleless' power, the last remaining ancient dragon. Thats pretty OP.
The eldest daughter of chaos presumably was around during the dragon wars, she must of taken part in the great fire-storm weaving, she also must have known fire magic before pyromancy was born. Being the eldest i assume she was the most powerful of the daughters, and the fact that she remains in Izalith and hasn't turned into a hideous demon is impressive. The only reason i would put her as more powerful than Quelana is because she uses Chaos pyromancies, which seem to be more powerful.
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- Post n°85
Re: strongest human in dark souls
I would have said Leeroy, not only because of his immense physical strength but also because of his spiritual strength. I mean who would willingly go up against my Master Nito, First of the Dead?
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- Post n°86
Re: strongest human in dark souls
Pretty much everyone since he is so easy.
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- Post n°87
Re: strongest human in dark souls
His armor would have weak spots, or else he wouldn't be able to see. (And if he can see, it would still most likely be weaker then the rest of the armor, considering the level of technology they have)Xero wrote:Tarkus has no weak spots.
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- Post n°88
Re: strongest human in dark souls
Logically if you're aware of a weak spot that's where you put your defense, so it would actually be less effective to attack the weak spot of a trained fighter than to fight their stronger points, if just for the value of surprising them.Soul of Stray Demon wrote:His armor would have weak spots, or else he wouldn't be able to see. (And if he can see, it would still most likely be weaker then the rest of the armor, considering the level of technology they have)Xero wrote:Tarkus has no weak spots.
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- Post n°89
Re: strongest human in dark souls
Then logically the weak spot, would be the stronger points..... But there still is a weak spot.SpecterOranges wrote:Logically if you're aware of a weak spot that's where you put your defense, so it would actually be less effective to attack the weak spot of a trained fighter than to fight their stronger points, if just for the value of surprising them.Soul of Stray Demon wrote:His armor would have weak spots, or else he wouldn't be able to see. (And if he can see, it would still most likely be weaker then the rest of the armor, considering the level of technology they have)Xero wrote:Tarkus has no weak spots.
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- Post n°90
Re: strongest human in dark souls
Tarkus is wearing the tuxedo of armor. Advantage: fashion
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- Post n°91
Re: strongest human in dark souls
Gameplay wise Leeroy gets my vote. 2000+ damage in ng+ is enough to 1shot or at least 2shot most other npc's.
Lore wise Havel. Because he was apparently badass enough to run around killing dragons while wearing what was likely once part of a mountain, And using one of their tooth as a weapon.
Lore wise Havel. Because he was apparently badass enough to run around killing dragons while wearing what was likely once part of a mountain, And using one of their tooth as a weapon.
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- Post n°92
Re: strongest human in dark souls
Bob, no matter how logical your post is, or how intruguing it is....
Your picture still kills me, man. I stare at it for hours on end contemplating the universe
Your picture still kills me, man. I stare at it for hours on end contemplating the universe
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- Post n°93
Re: strongest human in dark souls
Correct me if i'm wrong, but I thought that this thread was about who was physically strongest, not who was the most adept at combat. In this case, i'm inclined to say havel. Unless you include the chosen undead, in which case its him/her.
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- Post n°94
Re: strongest human in dark souls
That was the idea. And I think when we left the idea, Havel was in the lead.Shakie666 wrote:Correct me if i'm wrong, but I thought that this thread was about who was physically strongest, not who was the most adept at combat. In this case, i'm inclined to say havel. Unless you include the chosen undead, in which case its him/her.
But, sometimes threads evolve, and sometimes they derail. Just how it works.
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Re: strongest human in dark souls
Then I think no one wins.... because even strength is challenge-able. Max Capacity or Endurance?NathanC wrote:That was the idea. And I think when we left the idea, Havel was in the lead.Shakie666 wrote:Correct me if i'm wrong, but I thought that this thread was about who was physically strongest, not who was the most adept at combat. In this case, i'm inclined to say havel. Unless you include the chosen undead, in which case its him/her.
But, sometimes threads evolve, and sometimes they derail. Just how it works.
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- Post n°96
Re: strongest human in dark souls
Lore-wise, most likely Havel.Soul of Stray Demon wrote:Then I think no one wins.... because even strength is challenge-able. Max Capacity or Endurance?NathanC wrote:That was the idea. And I think when we left the idea, Havel was in the lead.Shakie666 wrote:Correct me if i'm wrong, but I thought that this thread was about who was physically strongest, not who was the most adept at combat. In this case, i'm inclined to say havel. Unless you include the chosen undead, in which case its him/her.
But, sometimes threads evolve, and sometimes they derail. Just how it works.
Gameplay wise, an over leveled chosen undead
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Re: strongest human in dark souls
There's no such thing as an over-leveled chosen undead!Hue wrote:Lore-wise, most likely Havel.Soul of Stray Demon wrote:Then I think no one wins.... because even strength is challenge-able. Max Capacity or Endurance?NathanC wrote:That was the idea. And I think when we left the idea, Havel was in the lead.Shakie666 wrote:Correct me if i'm wrong, but I thought that this thread was about who was physically strongest, not who was the most adept at combat. In this case, i'm inclined to say havel. Unless you include the chosen undead, in which case its him/her.
But, sometimes threads evolve, and sometimes they derail. Just how it works.
Gameplay wise, an over leveled chosen undead
Just an under-leveled one.
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- Post n°98
Re: strongest human in dark souls
I thought the Chosen Undead was specifically not applicable for this.
In terms of their Strength parameter, Havel. The only weapon any npc uses that requires more strength is Smough's Hammer, and he's not human.
In terms of their Strength parameter, Havel. The only weapon any npc uses that requires more strength is Smough's Hammer, and he's not human.
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- Post n°99
Re: strongest human in dark souls
Smough 2Hs his hammer though. Havel 1Hs his shield. So Havel is stronger than SmoughAcarnatia wrote:I thought the Chosen Undead was specifically not applicable for this.
In terms of their Strength parameter, Havel. The only weapon any npc uses that requires more strength is Smough's Hammer, and he's not human.
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- Post n°100
Re: strongest human in dark souls
Pharis and Rendall with 0 votes....woe is me...
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