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    Post by swordiris Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:07 am

    After thinkng about pendant a question came to mind. Did someone discover everything we know about the game or was there a guide?

    Some of the things in this game are so convoluted that someone deserves a pat on the back. (gravelord cov and path to ash lake)
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    Post by Federally Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:31 am

    There is a guide but I'm not sure how much info was in it. Really most of the discoveries have been made through hard work.
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    Post by Tolvo Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:45 am

    I'd just check the Archives haha.
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    Post by Azran Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:26 pm

    Wait for the PC Edition; everything will be answered there.
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    Post by ublug Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:43 pm

    The Future Press Guide was available upon the US release, with info on weapons, armor, enemies and locations. All other discoveries and finer details are from the contributions of a vast number of players, this also includes the changes made with each game patch. This why we have wikis, to have a common body of all the knowledge gathered in one place, instead of bits and pieces of information spread out over countless message boards.
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    Post by Buggy Virus Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:54 pm

    There is still the dogged quest to find a use for the pendant, but I think that we are unlikely to see anything new, being that text dumps have already been processed and combed, and the info on the discs scruitinized by players.
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    Post by swordiris Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:19 pm

    what was the most recent major discovery? This intrests me and can't find anything about it on the web. I keep dreaming I discover something huge in The great Hollow. Probably just a dream but the hunch is strong enough to hit every wall and run across every branch.
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    Post by ublug Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:56 pm

    One of the most recent discoveries I learned (from ZikoLogiKa) was that you can infect other players with an egghead if you are a member of the chaos covenant.
    A wiki is not the place to give credit for discoveries and contributions, so you'll probably have to read message-boards to learn about who found what. Some discoveries are also pieced together by several players, since the one who found it is often clueless about how it happened, or how to trigger it. For example: One thing we still do not know is how to make Quelana appear without having a +10 pyromancy flame. Many have seen her, but they usually have no clue why or how.
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    Post by Federally Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:15 pm

    ublug wrote:The Future Press Guide was available upon the US release, with info on weapons, armor, enemies and locations. All other discoveries and finer details are from the contributions of a vast number of players, this also includes the changes made with each game patch. This why we have wikis, to have a common body of all the knowledge gathered in one place, instead of bits and pieces of information spread out over countless message boards.

    I love your avatar, reminds me of the good old days of mummys and crazy tentacles bent on world domination!
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    Post by new deal Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:33 pm

    Wait you can really infect other players with an egghead if you are a member of the chaos covenant?
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    Post by Federally Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:11 am

    new deal wrote:Wait you can really infect other players with an egghead if you are a member of the chaos covenant?

    Yes, and it seems the size of your egg head and maybe your rank in the covenent affect how easily you infect others.
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    Post by new deal Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:00 pm

    Federally wrote:
    new deal wrote:Wait you can really infect other players with an egghead if you are a member of the chaos covenant?

    Yes, and it seems the size of your egg head and maybe your rank in the covenent affect how easily you infect others.

    What would happen if im +3 in the covenant with the egg
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    Post by Federally Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:59 pm

    new deal wrote:
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    new deal wrote:Wait you can really infect other players with an egghead if you are a member of the chaos covenant?

    Yes, and it seems the size of your egg head and maybe your rank in the covenent affect how easily you infect others.

    What would happen if im +3 in the covenant with the egg

    Not entirely sure as all the details aren't ironed out, its hard to test.
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    Post by ublug Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:11 pm

    Federally wrote:Not entirely sure as all the details aren't ironed out, its hard to test.
    I have noticed that your controller will vibrate when you are grabbed and infected by an egg carrier. I'm not sure if the vibration is always there, or if it just occurs when you are succesfully infected, but still worth to check if it happens during online infections.
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    Post by swordiris Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:43 pm

    Anyone else think it would be messed up to infect low level players with an egghead? lol
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:08 pm

    Only if they've opened up Blighttown. Infecting burg first timers is just cruel. Possibly game/character breaking.

    Though, I still chuckled.
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    Post by Federally Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:09 pm

    swordiris wrote:Anyone else think it would be messed up to infect low level players with an egghead? lol

    Not really, the egghead doesn't hurt you so bad. Now the fun would be infecting one of the HacelMcZweiFlippers wearing a family mask. Once they earn enough souls and the egg hatches it will break their head gear. Which would really make me laugh
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:14 pm

    Oh, come on Fed. Could you imagine playing dying on the first boss, then figuring out to get through the door, dying again 'cause you missed the plunge, then finally working your way to the burg, finally getting to the next bonfire, turn human, then get invaded. But instead of just simply dying, he does this weird maggot thing. Then, later on, you get enough souls to level, but, suddenly, they're gone, and you have an egghead.

    ... new character.
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    Post by Federally Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:16 pm

    JoeBroski09 wrote:Oh, come on Fed. Could you imagine playing dying on the first boss, then figuring out to get through the door, dying again 'cause you missed the plunge, then finally working your way to the burg, finally getting to the next bonfire, turn human, then get invaded. But instead of just simply dying, he does this weird maggot thing. Then, later on, you get enough souls to level, but, suddenly, they're gone, and you have an egghead.

    ... new character.

    Egghead doesn't cripple you, its a legit game mechanic in a punishing difficult game. I say go for it as long as you're not decked out in BB'd gear.
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:18 pm

    It's breaking when you can't kick the spear users. And it seems to steal your souls and get bigger so you can't level up.

    It makes a new, hard game even harder. probably making most new people either quit or make a new toon.

    My 2 cents I guess. This game was harder for me than most when I first started.
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    Post by Federally Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:22 pm

    It's no different then getting cursed, its just a hurdle to be climbed. Now I wanna go infect everyone I can in the Burg.
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:29 pm

    Federally wrote:It's no different then getting cursed, its just a hurdle to be climbed. Now I wanna go infect everyone I can in the Burg.
    Ahh. But if you compare being cursed to being killed normally, you can compare eggheading someone to just simply killing them. IMO, it's "better" way to greif someone. As in, it's more of an a-hole move.

    In my opinion, I guess. I don't really enjoy having the odds stack up against me even more than they are. Everyone likes a certain difficulty, and DkS was enough for me when I first started, and I played offline. Someone eggheading me would have definitely ruined my experience, and I'd guess it's the same for most new DkS players.
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    Post by swordiris Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:47 pm

    Especially since the only cure is in the burg by the chaos servant covenant.

    Imagine the average player whom it takes a month to make it that far.

    No imagine him with an egghead.
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    Post by About8547Souls Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:56 pm

    Well, it's not the only way to cure it. Those lizards on the trees in the Moonpit area drop the Egg Vermifuge too. Of course I doubt they make it by the titanite Demon if they can't make it into Blighttown in a month lol.

    But if you thinking being Cursed, or having an Egghead is bad.... Imagine them getting an Egghead, and then while they go through the Depths to make it to Blighttown the hard way. (Because they didn't choose Master Key or become a Thief.) They get Cursed by a Basilisk. Now they are getting half souls and only have half health, plus they're beginners and not dying with full health was hard enough.

    Game Over lol.
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:04 am

    Exactly.

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