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    Post by jockanda Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:54 pm

    can't figure out its use ? not in pvp nor pve
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    Post by IceIfrit666 Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:01 pm

    If you get hit multiple times in a row, it'll cause a damaging shockwave around you that knocks back everyone.
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    Post by jockanda Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:06 pm

    well i got multiple hits while it was on , nothing happened tho
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    Post by Tolvo Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:14 pm

    I think it is somewhere in the realm of six-eight.
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    Post by DamageCK Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:19 pm

    It's pretty diffucult to get it to activate before you're dead. It's mostly useless.
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    Post by Heroez Blade Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:25 pm

    Personally i have never used it so it is useless to me, but i am sure it has purpose to an experienced pvp player.
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    Post by fireLESS Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:31 pm

    I have been trying it with no luck PvE, figured it would trigger in ToG but nope. Seems useless. Takes a whole slot and only activates if you are done for anyway.
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    Post by DamageCK Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:34 pm

    I thought it was two slots? EVEN SH*TTIER! Haha. Plus anytime someone starts to cast it I immediately run in to BS 'cause it looks just like the TWoP animation. Not on my watch, buddy.
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    Post by jockanda Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:56 pm

    thanks all,
    another question, raising dexterity boosts casting speed ,right? i have 16 dex and it takes too long to shot a sunlight spear ,how many lvl should i add to noticeably increase the speed ? will 5 lvls do?


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    Post by Heroez Blade Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:57 pm

    Well dex at 45 is the best for casting speed, so you might want to level it up a little more than 5 unless you are staying at a certain level.
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    Post by swordiris Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:11 pm

    It isn't useless if you are playing a tank build that doesn't DWGR. It doesn't count as a hit if it was I framed.
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    Post by jockanda Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:13 pm

    Heroez Blade wrote:Well dex at 45 is the best for casting speed, so you might want to level it up a little more than 5 unless you are staying at a certain level.
    im sticking to sl 130 so ill leave it at 16.
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    Post by DamageCK Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:14 pm

    45 is max and it makes a pretty big difference. Pretty much all the pyro/miracle projectile spells take forever to get off with low dex. Sorc seems to be fine without it though.
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    Post by jockanda Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:17 pm

    and what is DWGR?
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    Post by ChizFreak Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:18 pm

    PRO TIP: Best way to trigger it is by using a shield that blocks less than 100% phys damage and blocking consecutive hits. It could also combine well if you're practicing parrying.

    EDIT: DWGR stands for Dark Wood Grain Ring, the ring that lets you backflip.
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    Post by ublug Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:35 pm

    Anyone tried it against wheel skellies? It sounds like it's tailor made to counter them.
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    Post by Bloodios Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:47 pm

    Couple with the Effigy Shield and it will prove to be a deadly force against invaders wielding Lightning Spear, Demon's Spear or Dragonslayer Spear.

    ublug wrote:Anyone tried it against wheel skellies? It sounds like it's tailor made to counter them.
    Maybe I should try it out sometimes. I've always one-shot those things with my Zweihänder...
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    Post by VinheimProfessor Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:13 pm

    Not useless, but very unreliable. Don't count on it triggering, and when it does, treat it as an unexpected bonus.
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    Post by ICEFANG Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:22 pm

    I use it on Seath a lot, it blows up a lot and does fine damage, but its too hard to work in PvP, the not 100% shield advice is pretty awesome though.
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    Post by barrywilkins Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:37 pm


    Anyone tried it against wheel skellies? It sounds like it's tailor made to counter them.

    as a matter of fact, ive tested it out twice on the ones in the catacombs. the first time, it only blew one up, making me whoop with joy until the other 500 just outside the blast radius came and showed me a thing or two about my insides i didnt know. the second time however, they all tried to kill me at once, thus showing them just how karmic this justice can be.

    in short; itll work as long as you get every single one of them on you.
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    Post by skarekrow13 Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:45 pm

    I was experimenting with it last night for the red tearstone/karmic thread (although I haven't tearstoned it yet) and found a pretty nice way to make it effective. Apart from the psychology. Show off that you cast it and a good number of people will keep some distance and tone down the aggression.

    I haven't been able to get it to trigger in less than five hits, and they all need to be done quickly. It's damage is highly variable so if you can catch someone mid swing or from the side it's more effective.

    Anyway, five hits.....five hits......like the Homing Soul Mass spell actually!

    I scared the bejesus out of a guy last night. He cast Homing Soul Mass, I had Karmic already on. I rolled at him to dodge the Soul Mass, they clipped me, registering a "hit" but didn't hurt me. However the resulting explosion leveled the guy.
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    Post by IV_Mark_VI Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:32 pm

    Can you combine this with Iron Flesh? Perhaps a good tool for gankers? Backup into a wall so you can't be backstabbed, and hold up a shield that has less than 100% protection? Then WoG spam them?

    Edit: Does it have to be physical damage? If you have a shield that blocks 100% physical and 80% fire, and they're hitting you with a Chaos Something, will it go off?
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    Post by skarekrow13 Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:53 pm

    Can't combine with iron I don't think. One self buff at a time. Mine triggered ^ from pure magic so....

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