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    Post by RandelOolacile Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:38 pm

    Hi, everyone!

    I come to you today wanting some info on maximizing damage for the Stone Greatsword. I currently have it at +5 with 40 strength 10 dex doing 492 one handed. I'm curious about its TWoP effect too. How similar is it? Is it viable for pvp? Thanks for the info, guys! big grin
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    Post by Carphil Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:39 pm

    It is viable, but is also heavier and slower than other greatswords. Hits hard, but watch out for parries, they'll be your main threat.

    Good tip: stack up as much poise as you can and go for the stunlock. Try to deceive parriers by alternating between one handed R1 and R2 attacks. Its definitely a fun weapon
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    Post by RandelOolacile Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:44 pm

    That does sound like fun. Thanks for the info! big grin
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    Post by RANT Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:19 pm

    its viably like car said. i would go with a 40/40 build for mac damage but theres other gs that are better than it like the msgs, the sgs is so cool though.
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    Post by RandelOolacile Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:54 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:its viably like car said. i would go with a 40/40 build for mac damage but theres other gs that are better than it like the msgs, the sgs is so cool though.

    Yeah I was kinda figuring that I would have to go for the 40/40. Right now I have a lvl50 coop toon and considering the low lvl all points went str then end and then vit. I'm gonna start up a pvp one tomorrow! Gonna limit my build to honorable pvp gear and tech. big grin Thanks for the info, guys! big grin
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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:02 pm

    Love the new avatar, Mudo. winking
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    Post by RandelOolacile Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:13 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:Love the new avatar, Mudo. winking

    Thanks! big grin

    I found myself staring at the glowing flowers in darkroot while farming for the stone greatsword. I loved the way they looked all hypnotizing so I just had to make an avatar! happy
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    Post by Tolvo Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:39 am

    The split damage on it does sort of make it one of the weaker Greastwords for the requirements to wield it.
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    Post by RandelOolacile Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:44 am

    Tolvo wrote:The split damage on it does sort of make it one of the weaker Greastwords for the requirements to wield it.

    Yeah, initially I was thinking it was like MLGS, but then I realized that MLGS is all magic damage. silly
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    Post by Buggy Virus Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:54 am

    It's completely viable, though many players will call it dishonorable.
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    Post by RandelOolacile Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:04 am

    Buggy Virus wrote:It's completely viable, though many players will call it dishonorable.

    Woah, really? Why's that?
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    Post by DoughGuy Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:06 am

    No one likes Twop because all anyone does with it is WoG/CSS spam or BSes.
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    Post by Buggy Virus Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:07 am

    MudoRH wrote:
    Buggy Virus wrote:It's completely viable, though many players will call it dishonorable.

    Woah, really? Why's that?

    You really can't honestly fight effectively if TWoPed, the only thing you could really use would be magic, and only stuff like wrath to try to save yourself.
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    Post by RandelOolacile Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:09 am

    Oh yeah! The second part to my longwinded question, lol. silly Is the TWoP from the sword exactly the same?
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:33 am

    same duration and range, with similar casating time, just uses durability...
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    Post by RandelOolacile Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:36 am

    sparkly-twinkly-lizard wrote:same duration and range, with similar casating time, just uses durability...

    What? The only tradeoff is durability? Yeah that could be taken as dishonorable. Well looks like I'm not two handing this weapon, lol.
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    Post by Gaxe Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:57 am

    MudoRH wrote:
    sparkly-twinkly-lizard wrote:same duration and range, with similar casating time, just uses durability...

    What? The only tradeoff is durability? Yeah that could be taken as dishonorable. Well looks like I'm not two handing this weapon, lol.

    No it's only fair if you use it's TWoP. You have lower damage and split damage than other GSs. Go ahead use it the best you can just don't spam TWoP use it when your in trouble not at the beggining.
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    Post by lordgodofhell Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:04 am


    I have 2 builds with the SGS as the main weapon.

    You have to realize people will get angry no matter what you use to beat them twop/stunning/Bsing included.

    You are burdening yourself with a massively heavy and slow Strength intensive weapon with a split AR. The twop effect is a reward for this fact.

    I usually only 2 hand it as the 40 str is too steep when i can just go 27 str and be just fine. I sacrifice parry but that is ok.

    You could have bought one from Shiva in B town by the way, instead of farming lol.

    It is also a great anti ganking weapon and good at ridding phantoms so you can take the host more seriously and direct.
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    Post by Rynn Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:40 pm

    MudoRH wrote:Oh yeah! The second part to my longwinded question, lol. silly Is the TWoP from the sword exactly the same?
    The TWOP is better in every way.
    It leaves no physical trace it's occuring, no particle effect from the ground, so your opponent isn't sure when it's safe.
    It lasts 3 more seconds.
    And TWOP must wear off before being recast... the sword does not.

    EDIT: The sword animation is also faster then casting TWoP.
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    Post by RandelOolacile Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:46 pm

    Rynn wrote:
    MudoRH wrote:Oh yeah! The second part to my longwinded question, lol. silly Is the TWoP from the sword exactly the same?
    The TWOP is better in every way.
    It leaves no physical trace it's occuring, no particle effect from the ground, so your opponent isn't sure when it's safe.
    It lasts 3 more seconds.
    And TWOP must wear off before being recast... the sword does not.

    EDIT: The sword animation is also faster then casting TWoP.

    Why aren't more people using this thing? lol
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    Post by befowler Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:51 pm

    I think you can also get the sword's effect off even if you are under the influence of Vow of Silence, unlike the spell version
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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:52 pm

    MudoRH wrote:
    Rynn wrote:
    MudoRH wrote:Oh yeah! The second part to my longwinded question, lol. silly Is the TWoP from the sword exactly the same?
    The TWOP is better in every way.
    It leaves no physical trace it's occuring, no particle effect from the ground, so your opponent isn't sure when it's safe.
    It lasts 3 more seconds.
    And TWOP must wear off before being recast... the sword does not.

    EDIT: The sword animation is also faster then casting TWoP.

    Why aren't more people using this thing? lol

    Sword been treating you well, Mudo?
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    Post by RandelOolacile Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:57 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:
    MudoRH wrote:
    Rynn wrote:
    MudoRH wrote:Oh yeah! The second part to my longwinded question, lol. silly Is the TWoP from the sword exactly the same?
    The TWOP is better in every way.
    It leaves no physical trace it's occuring, no particle effect from the ground, so your opponent isn't sure when it's safe.
    It lasts 3 more seconds.
    And TWOP must wear off before being recast... the sword does not.

    EDIT: The sword animation is also faster then casting TWoP.

    Why aren't more people using this thing? lol

    Sword been treating you well, Mudo?

    It goes without saying that it's been a step above what I've been used to. I do feel a bit cheesy with the TWoP, but I'm trying not to abuse it. I'm gonna move onto a rapier now to give them a go. silly

    Can't wait to find my weapon of choice. Till now I've been on the katana bandwagon, but experiencing all these other weapons brings a whole new level of excitement! big grin
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    Post by Rynn Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:57 pm

    befowler wrote:I think you can also get the sword's effect off even if you are under the influence of Vow of Silence, unlike the spell version
    That is correct.
    I've accidentally TWoP'd someone doing vow of silence, because i thought they were going to TWoP me.

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