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    Do you use roll backstab?

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    Post by WyrmHero Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:30 pm

    I was wondering what the forum thinks of this.
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    Post by Juutas Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:33 pm

    Yes.

    I shy away from using it, but sometimes I have to (usually when punishing a turtle or super parry spammer). Lot easier to do with DWGR than fastrolling I've noticed.
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    Post by FinPeku Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:35 pm

    Yes. I'm not good at it, but it is very good counter against various annoying tactics. Spell spamming or wakeup gc for example. I don't think roll backstabbing is dirty or dishonorable.
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    Post by Pesth Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:38 pm

    The option:

    .Just when the opponent is a heavy shield spear turtle!

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    Post by Glutebrah Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:38 pm

    i never even tried/learned how to do it. pivot backstabing is easy enough if i need to resort to it
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    Post by WyrmHero Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:43 pm

    It makes Str weapons useless for PvP by the way, if you are a good roll bs fisher you just have roll past any slow attack and do the bs.
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    Post by Serious_Much Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:48 pm

    No, i don't use it, or the other types of special pro-bs or chaining. i've said for a good while now that bs techniques are just amplification of the abuse of lag that is a bs.

    i think using techniques to exploit a broken mechanic even further is a bit silly.
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    Post by Garl_Vinland Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:48 pm

    Not really my favorite thing in the bag 'o tactics,but like everyone else had said it's good for breaking an annoying turtle.
    Everyone EXCEPT Serious, that is.
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    Post by isthefridge Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:50 pm

    Im going to vote no b/c im not good at BS in general
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    Post by Serious_Much Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:51 pm

    Garl_Vinland wrote:Not really my favorite thing in the bag 'o tactics,but like everyone else had said it's good for breaking an annoying turtle.
    Everyone EXCEPT Serious, that is.

    hey, someone's gotta play the advocate, and to be fair bs is a generally contentious issue on whether it really works 'properly as intended'
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    Post by FinPeku Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:02 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:It makes Str weapons useless for PvP by the way, if you are a good roll bs fisher you just have roll past any slow attack and do the bs.
    It really isn't that simple. I use murakumo all the time and i don't get roll backstabbed very often. Sometimes of course, but it's because i have done a mistake by attacking predictably or something like that.

    Slower weapons are still very common and popular in pvp. I don't think roll backstabbing is that OP and easy as you make it sound. It is annoying sometimes, but backstab fishing is always.
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    Post by Uparkaam Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:04 pm

    I use it in the Forest. (very poorly though, I'm quite bad at it)
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    Post by WyrmHero Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:07 pm

    FinPeku wrote:
    WyrmHero wrote:It makes Str weapons useless for PvP by the way, if you are a good roll bs fisher you just have roll past any slow attack and do the bs.
    It really isn't that simple. I use murakumo all the time and i don't get roll backstabbed very often. Sometimes of course, but it's because i have done a mistake by attacking predictably or something like that.

    Slower weapons are still very common and popular in pvp. I don't think roll backstabbing is that OP and easy as you make it sound. It is annoying sometimes, but backstab fishing is always.

    I was talking about great hammers, greataxes and UGS.
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    Post by Juutas Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:17 pm

    ^ yeah, I very rarely bs-punish players who use these type of weapons, because it's just too damn easy. The slowest weapons have so many weaknesses that there is no point in adding bsing on the list too.
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    Post by Maneater_Mildred Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:46 pm

    No, no bs's are part of my play style. Don't mind too much if ppl try to use it on me.
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    Post by Spurgun Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:19 pm

    I roll BS WoG, but that's the only thing i roll BS on purpose.
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    Post by StockpileThomas Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:23 pm

    Serious_Much wrote:No, i don't use it, or the other types of special pro-bs or chaining. i've said for a good while now that bs techniques are just amplification of the abuse of lag that is a bs.

    i think using techniques to exploit a broken mechanic even further is a bit silly.

    I couldn't have said it better myself.
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    Post by Spurgun Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:27 pm

    Nooooo, you can agree with Serious. Your avatar demands that you disagree with him silly
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    Post by Tristan Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:14 pm

    StockpileThomas wrote:
    Serious_Much wrote:No, i don't use it, or the other types of special pro-bs or chaining. i've said for a good while now that bs techniques are just amplification of the abuse of lag that is a bs.

    i think using techniques to exploit a broken mechanic even further is a bit silly.

    I couldn't have said it better myself.
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    Post by reim0027 Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:28 pm

    I roll BS. I do it to punish mistakes and misses. With BS, strength weapon users have to be careful with spacing, and play unlocked. But, without BS, then strength weapons have very few weaknesses.
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    Post by Rifter7 Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:10 am

    yeah i use it when i can.
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    Post by WyrmHero Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:24 am

    :x
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    Post by Rifter7 Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:28 am

    i take it you don't like roll backstabs?

    wait you use the gscythe right.. it all makes sense now.. happy
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    Post by WyrmHero Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:36 am

    I don't get roll BS by using it much, it's when I'm using my beloved Str weapons that roll BS makes me want to cry/quit DkS. :x
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    Post by bloodpixel Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:41 am

    Yes because it makes fighting slow weapons easier.

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