Kaathe Disappear Question

Hey Guys, i know Kaathe disappears if u put the Lord Vessel and talk to frampt.

But my question is, when i already talk to him, join his covenant ( and still in this covenant ), when then i talk to frampt and putting the lord vessel did he disappear too ?

I'm pretty sure he does. He disappears and you get booted from the covenant.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

You have to place the lordvessel via Kaathe and he will stay in the abyss, but Frampt will dissapear. Don't worry frampt is useless anyway

He's my garbage bin though.

Thx then i place it over Kaathe. Didnt know that u can do that. Cuz i wanna gank Players in all areas and not only that one before i get lord vessel!

Frampt is not useless! As Yarxov already said he's a garbage bin but it's also very useful that you can feed him shards/chunks to get other kinds of shards, i wish he was still there in my world for this purpose.

You can join the Darkwraiths, talk to Frampt and have Kaathe disappear, and still be in the covenant. So you can be DW and have your garbage bin.

But if you leave the darkwraiths after than, then there's no joining back until the next playthrough.

I once did that by mistake, then was pissed at Frampt for making Kaathe disappear so I hit him. Went the rest of the playthrough without a primordial serpent!