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    Post by The Letter X Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:31 pm

    Oh_the_Humanity wrote:I dont think that will be an issue.
    If someone is slowly walking backwards while constantly shooting arrows at me then I would just a) run serpentine and smash him in the face when I get to him, or b) constantly roll at him dodging his arrows.

    I'm hoping we can deflevct the arrows.
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    Post by LunarFog Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:40 pm

    The way I see it, there are pros and cons to every weapon, including the bow. It's not at all overpowered and I don't think it'll need a nerf. Even though people can move backwards while shooting it still 1.) Requires WAY more stamina 2.) is slow enough for any non-trash player to react
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    Post by ChizFreak Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:47 pm

    We've only seen one of in the video, at it was very small, I'm pretty sure there will be other types of bow aswell.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:23 pm

    1 word. Block. Arrows are limited after all. If they don't engage to chip, just block/heal until they're ready to fight.

    Anyways, I'm glad they got a buff. They're useful as is, but not especially dangerous (pvp) most of the time, which bothers me.

    PS, people stop down voting for no reason. Down votes are for unhelpful, intentionaly misleading or blatantly offensive posts, not for someone saying they intend to use what looks to be a good weapon.
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    Post by LunarFog Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:53 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:1 word. Block. Arrows are limited after all. If they don't engage to chip, just block/heal until they're ready to fight.

    Anyways, I'm glad they got a buff. They're useful as is, but not especially dangerous (pvp) most of the time, which bothers me.

    PS, people stop down voting for no reason. Down votes are for unhelpful, intentionaly misleading or blatantly offensive posts, not for someone saying they intend to use what looks to be a good weapon.

    Yea. I've been noticing that someone has been downvoting half of my things even when they're helpful. Not sure why. Is there anyway I can find out who it is?
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    Post by Dibsville Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:00 am

    LunarFog wrote:
    Forum Pirate wrote:1 word. Block. Arrows are limited after all. If they don't engage to chip, just block/heal until they're ready to fight.

    Anyways, I'm glad they got a buff. They're useful as is, but not especially dangerous (pvp) most of the time, which bothers me.

    PS, people stop down voting for no reason. Down votes are for unhelpful, intentionaly misleading or blatantly offensive posts, not for someone saying they intend to use what looks to be a good weapon.

    Yea. I've been noticing that someone has been downvoting half of my things even when they're helpful. Not sure why. Is there anyway I can find out who it is?
    I don't even understand why someone would down that.
    I'll be using them too. Even in DkS a Composite Bow is an end game weapon.
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    Post by Juutas Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:21 am

    LunarFog wrote:The way I see it, there are pros and cons to every weapon, including the bow. It's not at all overpowered and I don't think it'll need a nerf. Even though people can move backwards while shooting it still 1.) Requires WAY more stamina 2.) is slow enough for any non-trash player to react

    This is true. Anyone saying that the bows are going to be op, just check the huge stamina consumption...you can maybe fire like 3 times with the full stamina bar (a least with the bow he was using in the tech demo).
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    Post by Forum Pirate Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:03 am

    Not that I know of lunar. I had an anonymous down repper for a while too. I'll just correct it when I see it. He'll probably give up eventually
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    Post by MasterofShadows Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:28 am

    Hachouma wrote:The arrow "explosion" effect is ridiculous though

    It reminded me of TERA *shudder*

    Yeah, that little white "explosion" every single time the arrow impacted got me worried. I really hope that is not from regular arrow impact. Hopefully there is something magic about the bow or the arrow.

    Oh, and please, for the love of god, give the crossbows a little respect this time. There is no real reason to use one right now unless for style or unless you are using Avelyn...
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    Post by Oh_the_Humanity Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:55 am

    Forum Pirate wrote:Not that I know of lunar. I had an anonymous down repper for a while too. I'll just correct it when I see it. He'll probably give up eventually

    Forgive the noobish question but, how do you know if you've been down voted? Just if your Rep number is one lower? What if your rep is 0?
    This is the first Forum that I've posted on more than 5 times so I'm new to the way forums work, or is the rep just on this site only?
    Again sorry for such a noob question. silly
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    Post by Halicarnassis Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:33 am

    Yes your rep will suffer a decrease and you can go into negative numbers. You can check your vites/rep under your user profile
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    Post by Halicarnassis Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:36 am

    Bows are always in hand for PVE when I am playing... purely for sniping purposes. Would I backpedal using a bow on, what looked like an Umber Hulk? No way! Rush the bugger with a Zwei and hack it to pieces.
    I think you will need a god-awful amount of points invested into Endurance to just keep firing your bow as a specialist. I'm happy with the change and if I do come across one of them just charge with your shield up and poke him to death!
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    Post by RANT Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:12 am

    imo they're gonna be even more annoying for pvp, hopefully the damage gets nerfed a bit. what I REALLY want is for my xbow to be able to reload on my own and not stand there for one second opened for an attack(which bows don't do).
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    Post by Djem Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:05 am

    I won't use them much, maybe a little in PvE. But they will be fun to fight against in PvP.
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    Post by Juutas Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:26 am

    With this much stamina consumption they had on the tech demo, bows are not going to be a problem since no one can afford to flip around and spam arrows anymore.
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    Post by SATLOS Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:41 pm

    RantFromRant wrote:imo they're gonna be even more annoying for pvp, hopefully the damage gets nerfed a bit. what I REALLY want is for my xbow to be able to reload on my own and not stand there for one second opened for an attack(which bows don't do).

    I remember that in the demo video the character didn't stop moving while using an item, so perhaps they're changing the whole "locked in place" aspect of item/weapon usage. I would welcome that change.

    That said, non-Avelyn style crossbows should really have like a clip or something. Not BERSERK level so you can just fire forever, but something like 5 shots. You get free usage of your crossbow 5 times, then you're forced to pause and reload.

    Would make them more viable IMO.
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    Post by Halicarnassis Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:56 pm

    Having watched the vid over again a number of times it looks llike the stamina is consumed on drawing back the string to the bow... He only gets 3 shots off with a full stamina bar

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