Cult of Friendship

I don't have a Mic so regular chat it is i guess

As far as chat goes some of us will have to use normal chat. If you wish to use voice chat just make sure your partner also has a mic.

Now as far as special titles go, that I will leave up to you guys but if you need help just ask. However, I would like this to be done by Friday.

As far as actual gameplay goes, I was thinking about having the host and the phantom begin at starting level and play off of each other through their worlds. However, the highest level you can achieve is SL 75. (So the SL cap will be raised)
OR
Have the host at starting level and have the phantom have three builds (of your choice) one would be a SL 15, SL 35, and SL 55. This will probably require the most work on the phantoms side.
The SL cap of 55 is for both the phantom and the host.
Currently this is still something that is up for decision but needs to be decide relatively soon.

Shortcuts: This I might allow if we choose the first option because of the amount of time that it will take to kill the bosses twice.

ALSO: I might also move the date back towards the 8th of June instead.

EDIT: If we also with the first option I was thinking about starting at Sen's Fortress instead of the Undead Burg but this is still up for discussion.

That sounds good, Grin .

I would love if we do Option 2 it can take forever to be connected to each other, let alone twice, i think it would be less frustrating that way .
And luckily i have Characters around that level .


If we go with Option 1 :
I would say we start at least in Blighttown since Quelaag is a pretty good Challenge .
But Sens would also be a good place to start since the Game's Challenging after that...
Don't know about shortcuts though .

Sorry if the following is not perfectly grammaticaly correct. I'm trying very hard to write in good english.

I prefer Option 1, but I'm ok with the other option.

My suggestions for the event, take what you find good, or throw :
- Starting at the undead burg at base level : You have to get the WSS on your own before the event (without killing important mobs and boss : Taurus demon/armored boar, knights, Havel etc...).
- Double co-op playthrough, the team will basically play through the whole game 2 times.
- The signs must be generaly placed at the start of the level, or at the bonefire if it's not too far in the level. The idea is to co-op the game, not co-op the bosses. The signs location must be discussed before the event then.
- If a phantom dies (or gets disconnected), it's fine to resummon him where he died, or any other location before in the level.
- If the host dies, the level must be "restarted".
- The only shortcuts that must be forbidden imo, are the ones in the catacombs that make the level inexistant. Do you think other ones should be forbidden?
- In my triple co-op run with friends, the easiest way to level up was *We do the level 3 times, then *We all level up at the same level. But you can do as you wish.
- You don't have to clean all the level, you can choose one way and take it. But you don't want to run to the boss while evading all ennemies too. You have to kill the ennemies you encounter. With maybe reasonable exceptions if it's a matter of life and death for your team.
- It's ok to avoid the enemies, but kill the one you aggroed
- I think we can agree about not making the full blighttown level mandatory. You'll have to kill the Gaping Dragon anyway.
- All boss must die twice, even Gwyn. The second Gwyn will have to be done solo though and the timer will stop just after his death.
- The mandatory solo parts don't have rules, you can kill 0 ennemies and just run. You'll be responsible for your own death

My suggestions for white signs:
Taurus demon :
WS at the middle of the stairs at the very begin of the level.

Gargoyle :
WS at Solaire or at the sunlight altar bonefire?

Gaping Dragon :
WS at the top of the level, at the bottom of the stairs coming from lower undead burg.
The big shortcut in the giant rat room is fine imo, you'll still have to do the first part of the level.

Quelaag :
WS at the top of the level when arriving from the shortcut.

Sen :
SW after kill the two first man-serpents, in the first room.

Anor londo :
Kill the first gargoyle, and WS at the demon titanite chest (take right when you come from the elevator)
This part may be hard, should we authorise sending back the phantom and rest at Solaire's bonefire, then resummon here?

Catacombs :
WS at the first bonefire

Tomb of the Giant :
WS at the first bonefire or before? The problem here is if you don't start at the bonefire, any death will be equal to restarting at the catacombs bonefire.

The archives :
You can't summon anyone before you escape from the library tower (after the mandatory death to Seath), so I think WS just after leaving the tower, or at the next bonefire??

Moonlight butterfly :
2 solutions, dependants on weither the hydra should be killed in co-op or not (to be decided):
- WS at the begining of the level coming from the undead parish. (fine if the hydra is not co-oped)
- WS after havel, coming from undead burg. (if the hydra must be co-oped)

Sif :
I suggest that exceptionaly, the sign may be placed down just before the boss.

4 Kings :
You can't summon anyone before you unlock the seal.
WS at the bottom of the elevator just after that.

Demon ruins :
1) WS at C.Discharge gate
2) WS at the bonefire before the Firesage Demon or at the start of the level???
3) WS at Centipede's gate

Izalith :
WS at the first bonefire.
OK to WS at the hidden bonefire for the second and next tries.
Good luck with BoC. It's possible to do it one shot if you're carefull (and lucky?). Did it twice with Chiller.

Sanctuary Guardian :
WS at the bonefire

Artorias :
WS on the bridge at the start.
Once the elevator is active, WS at the Artorias is fine.

Manus :
WS at Oolacile Township bonefire.
Good luck!

Kalameet :
WS at the fog gate

Stray Demon :
Solo

Priscilla :
WS at the bonefire

VaDoom wrote:
- If the host dies, the level must be "restarted".

I'm against this Rule .

So we're doing an all Boss run ?
And killing every Boss Twice ?
Boy, this will be looong .

Marino. wrote:

VaDoom wrote:
- If the host dies, the level must be "restarted".

I'm against this Rule .

So we're doing an all Boss run ?
And killing every Boss Twice ?
Boy, this will be looong .

This is still just a suggestion .
This is how I'd like to play it, but I'm not alone obviously

GrinTwist wrote:
(Unless if your on PC or PS3 unfortunately)

Didn't you plan to invite other covenants to the event? (or maybe should I reread the last posts)
Playing with you would not be a problem for me, but if you'd prefer (or if it's more confortable because of time zones or anything) to play
with someone else if possible, that wouldn't be a problem either.

The 8th of June is the only weekend of June I won't be able to play the game. Any other weekend is still not taken for now.

As for the level cap, anything is fine for me.

I realise playing the whole game in co-op may be very long, so maybe some things should be skipped. Maybe non mandatory area like Ariamis, Asylum ep 2, butterfly, DLC (or at least a part of it? Kalameet then??).
I'd like to play everything, but if it's too much so anyone won't even be able to finish it's run because of time constraints, something has to be done.

A very light run could be doing everything, but only double co-oping the bosses.
This way, you still depend on your partner to reach the boss gate. And you can ask for your partner's help if he already is at the gate but you need him to pass a specific point of the level.
If you don't ask for his help, the more time you take, the more vulnerable to invaders you make him.
It's much less fun imo, but is much easier to do time-wise.

That's what i thought too .
We only do mandatory Areas (Belles>Blighttown>Sens>Anor>The Lords>Kiln) and only Co-op for one Player .

But i would be fine with whatever you want to do, it's just tough to play through the whole Game essentially twice in one sitting and combine that with possible connection issues and you have possible no-fun

And we really should play through the whole Area together, just having the Host clear the level and being summoned for the Boss is pretty meh

Marino. wrote:and only Co-op for one Player.

This is the part we don't agree on. But if the phantom have several builds ready it may be done, yes.
And if it's what is chosen in the end, I'm ok with it. I'd just have to make new builds since I only have SL1, 55, 100 and 120 toons.

I still prefer the idea of two characters growing together though.

VaDoom wrote:

Marino. wrote:and only Co-op for one Player.

This is the part we don't agree on. But if the phantom have several builds ready it may be done, yes.
And if it's what is chosen in the end, I'm ok with it. I'd just have to make new builds since I only have SL1, 55, 100 and 120 toons.

I still prefer the idea of two characters growing together though.

That's fine and i see why you think so, it's just so that playing together in Souls games is pretty difficult at times and thats why i think Option 2 is better .

But you agree with only doing mandatory Bosses ? Or at least skipping the DLC ?

I think we should Vote for what System we'll use

Look, i don't want to force my Idea on any of you guys.
Just say you don't like it and i shall comply

Marino. wrote:
That's fine and i see why you think so, it's just so that playing together in Souls games is pretty difficult at times and thats why i think Option 2 is better .

But you agree with only doing mandatory Bosses ? Or at least skipping the DLC ?

I did "Option 1" with two friends, it's long, but very possible. Depends on the time each player is willing to allocate in the event. The main problem we had was to find the summoning sign the first time. When it's done once, it's not a problem anymore, just like when you play in a fight club. But yes, it's still long, very long.

I agree that only doing mandatory bosses may be the solution.

If necessary, I'm for voting too.

I just had an idea that may simplify it all.
I suggested it to be a competition, but it doesn't necessarily have to be so, or at least not in this form.
How about letting the team choose between different options and attribut different ranks depending on the option chosen upon succes :

Player A and B played option1 in X hours Y mins.

The titles maybe things like :
Player A and B played the full game killing every bosses in X hours and Y mins, they are now "Forever Friends in both Life and Death"

Player C helped player D through all his journey, killing only mandatory bosses.
Player C and D are now "Trustworthy Friends" (or 2 different ranks)
etc...

The event could be an excuse to create the first runs. Other runs might be done later to beat the time records and earn the ranks.

Marino. wrote:Look, i don't want to force my Idea on any of you guys.
Just say you don't like it and i shall comply

No of course, it's still in debate form. You have made your points really, it's just a matter of preference after that. In the end a solution that suits the most of us shall be chosen.

That sounds like something .

Res, you're going to record it yes ?
Then how about we set an example for future Runs for them to beat ?
Noone shall beat the "Knights of Time, Space and Friendship" !

It's 15:08 for me atm, i'll be home at 20:00 tops, are you ready until then, Res ?

Marino. wrote:
Then how about we set an example for future Runs for them to beat ?
Noone shall beat the "Knights of Time, Space and Friendship" !

Exactly what I was thinking of.
It's also fun because the ranks are shared by 2 persons at the time.

I'm usually very busy on the Weekends, it's when we have carnival most of the Time .
I see when i can queeze you in

ResIsBestStat wrote:I can't really play today, gotta do an art project, friday if possible

Cool thing about art, any old BS will do. If people say it's bad just tell them that it's they that do not "get it" or are interpreting it wrong.

That's Hipster 101, mate. 8)

ResIsBestStat wrote:The doctor in all his glory
http://mmdks.com/2cdz
All them spells

And here's Derpy Hooves
http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=178525494848685640

I replace the Winged Spear with the Fork asap, because it fits her so much better, i always imagine her go like "CHAAAAERGH!" when using the 2HR2 Attack just to fall flat on her face .

So you're ready Tommorow ?

Haha, glad you enjoy yourself