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    Post by Sargerus Tue May 28, 2013 6:01 pm

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=485526988187017&set=a.485526814853701.1073741829.119869331419453&type=3&l=3231494859&src=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-frc1%2F600570_485526988187017_1653436153_n.jpg&size=960%2C960


    FROM, PLEASE PICK THIS ONE!!! Prostration
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    Post by Shakie666 Tue May 28, 2013 6:19 pm

    My favourite design was the Azurite guard shield (its on page 4, shame really). Although, it was supposed to look 3d, so if they made the design flat. Though I do sorta want the Marcus shield to be chosen, simply because then the devs have to think of a lore explanation.

    It might be. I mean, the greatshield winner for DkS1 was the black iron shield, which doesn't look anywhere near as good as the tower shield.
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    Post by Marionx Tue May 28, 2013 6:29 pm

    Sargerus wrote:https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=485526988187017&set=a.485526814853701.1073741829.119869331419453&type=3&l=3231494859&src=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-frc1%2F600570_485526988187017_1653436153_n.jpg&size=960%2C960


    FROM, PLEASE PICK THIS ONE!!! Thoughts on the sheild design winners - Page 4 1330857165

    I voted for yours a while back. The details and the shading are really awesome!
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    Post by Major_kenny Tue May 28, 2013 6:34 pm

    It's a shame only 2 of each will be included because I really think there are so many awesome shield designs.
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    Post by Sargerus Tue May 28, 2013 6:44 pm

    Marionx wrote:
    Sargerus wrote:https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=485526988187017&set=a.485526814853701.1073741829.119869331419453&type=3&l=3231494859&src=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-frc1%2F600570_485526988187017_1653436153_n.jpg&size=960%2C960


    FROM, PLEASE PICK THIS ONE!!! Thoughts on the sheild design winners - Page 4 1330857165

    I voted for yours a while back. The details and the shading are really awesome!

    i didn't made it, lol, i just really really love the design happy
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    Post by Marionx Tue May 28, 2013 8:07 pm

    Oh, okay. I really thought you did. I still like the look of it!
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    Post by vegan666 Tue May 28, 2013 8:23 pm

    Wow, so many epic designs! I think they will find it hard to choose! LOVE the Fox Round Shield and Icy Kite Shield. So glad I made it, although I don't think I have a hope in hell with those other Kite designs!

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=485523831520666&set=pb.119869331419453.-2207520000.1369783296.&type=3&theater
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    Post by StiffNipples Tue May 28, 2013 9:51 pm

    A fellow on reddit took the time to rehost to imgur, so here's the albums for those without facebook

    EU: https://imgur.com/a/hLMlf#0
    US: https://imgur.com/a/XQoz4#0
    JP: https://imgur.com/a/an9YC#0
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    Post by Marionx Tue May 28, 2013 10:08 pm

    Wow! That's awesome. Way to go Stiff!
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    Post by OmarTheFuzzy Tue May 28, 2013 11:17 pm

    OmarTheFuzzy wrote:overall, my favorite was the Fleeting Fox Tail, but i'm pretty certain it didn't make the top 30. pity.

    yay! it made it into the 30. i would seriously buy this one as DLC (at a reasonable price, of course). i love this shield.

    ETA: my three picks would be Fleeting Fox (Europe); Iron Oak Tall (US); Blackened Earth (Japan/Asia)
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    Post by vegan666 Tue May 28, 2013 11:29 pm

    OmarTheFuzzy wrote:
    OmarTheFuzzy wrote:overall, my favorite was the Fleeting Fox Tail, but i'm pretty certain it didn't make the top 30. pity.

    yay! it made it into the 30. i would seriously buy this one as DLC (at a reasonable price, of course). i love this shield.

    ETA: my three picks would be Fleeting Fox (Europe); Iron Oak Tall (US); Blackened Earth (Japan/Asia)

    Thank you!

    Yeah, I adore the Fox shield, really hope it gets in!!!
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    Post by eminusx Wed May 29, 2013 4:35 am

    Some of the designs are absolutely fantastic, but in all honesty there are some really poor efforts that got through which have surprised me.

    Also, i'm kinda saddened that the EU list doesn't quite have the zing of our US and Japanese friends. There are some crackers in there, but quite a few are a bit lacking to be honest, there were plenty of designs lower down the field that were more suitable or of better quality.

    . . . everyones a critic huh!

    might have to justify this with a top three from each. . . . hmmmmm biggrin
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    Post by StiffNipples Wed May 29, 2013 6:13 am

    Honestly, no disrespect meant to the creators, but I really hope shields like the Dragon Covenant one don't get picked for the game.

    The design is very crisp and whoever made it is clearly talented, but it doesn't fit the design of Dark Souls. Even if there is a Dragon Covenant in DaS this shield still wouldn't fit, it would be like Solaire walking around with a shield of him praising the sun and holding a sunlight medal with the alter in the background. It just doesn't fit the universe.

    There are many good designs, but I can't help but think that many people didn't design a shield that would mesh well into the universe of Darks Souls 2, but instead just took something popular from Dark Souls and (talentfully mind you) put them on a shield.

    For example this or this is the type of shield that is not only very well designed, but would also fit into a fantasy world.
    Whereas this is just a silhouette of Solaire with the Sunbros logo as the sun. It's not a shield that belongs in Dark Souls 2 imo, it's more a fanboi homage that I can see someone using as a tacky texture mod.

    Similarly this or this are just bosses from DaS1, and while they're very skillfully designed (especially the S&O one) they would be really out of place in DaS2 or DaS1 for that matter.

    IMO the Greatshields had the greatest amount of designs that could easily find their story and place in the Dark Souls universe, and I really hope at least one of these two makes it into the game, as I think they could easily have a really cool story to go with them.


    The thing I think a lot of people seemed to miss is that one of the primary reasons shields have designs on them is that they are meant to announce who you represent, an indication of what side you're fighting for or who you are undertaking this pilgrimage for, along with protecting you. That's why you get Crest Shields (family crest, house crest, etc), or ones like the Baldur shield, along with things just to protect you like the Heater shield and Red and White or Leather shields.

    Sorry for the rant, I'm not really too annoyed, and many people did such fine work, I just think it's a little unfortunate that this style of motif got voted into the top 30 when it's really not a good fit for the game while other shields that would have looked awesome in the game missed out.


    EDIT: I do agree that the EU section was lacking compared to the other two. I think the Greatshields had the best designs, with the Crest Shields second (even though there aren't that many 'crests' in there) with the Round Shields bringing up the rear with (realistically) only a few designs that I would put into the game.
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    Post by eminusx Wed May 29, 2013 9:05 am

    @stiffnipples

    yeah that was my concern too, although the quality of many of them was very high, their appropriateness was in many cases questionable, in some cases non-existent.

    . . given the position of your character, and also that this is DS2, not DS, why would you be walking around with O&S, or Kalameet on your shield? I'll give the bonfire motif a break, because of its symbology, its a guiding light, a source of salvation. . .


    not a fan of the 'marcus' shield either, it seems more relevant to Lord Of The Flies than the world of Dark Souls. Call me a dirty old cynic, but it strikes me as blatant fan service, aiming to muster votes by virtue of the community appreciating ENB's videos etc, which is all well and good in isolation, but it has no place in the game.

    Its Dark Souls, not Epic Souls Bro.

    edit: jees I sound quite angry at times!! just constructive criticism i promise!


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    Post by StiffNipples Wed May 29, 2013 9:27 am

    +1 to all points, hit 35 posts today votes so that gets my uprep Joy
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    Post by eminusx Wed May 29, 2013 9:30 am

    Right then, my top three from each category:

    EU
    1 - https://imgur.com/a/hLMlf#23 really drawn to this, simple elegant design with shades of Velka, damn cool.
    2 - https://imgur.com/a/hLMlf#24 portrays courage and would look great in action.
    3 - https://imgur.com/a/hLMlf#28 great idea, looks really subtle.

    US
    1 - https://imgur.com/a/XQoz4#4 whats not to like! Looks beautiful.
    2 - https://imgur.com/a/XQoz4#28 really distinctive, great looking motif, would look great in use around the new sea / coastal areas.
    3 - https://imgur.com/a/XQoz4#12 Love the 'Black Iron' feel, Tarkus shouldve rocked this!


    JP
    1 - https://imgur.com/a/an9YC#0 i just wanna strut around with this. . simple as!
    2 - https://imgur.com/a/an9YC#19 fantastic idea, beautifully executed and very 'souls', very close second!
    3 - https://imgur.com/a/an9YC#8 got a great tribal feel to it and obvious 'Velka' crow connotations, ace!
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    Post by eminusx Wed May 29, 2013 11:05 am

    Hey, who's down repping? Don't remember hearing anybody saying anything worth a down rep!
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    Post by Marionx Wed May 29, 2013 1:26 pm

    Well, the rest is up to From Software. Best of luck!

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    Post by Naxek Wed May 29, 2013 5:25 pm

    I think it's more exciting to think about what the lore for the Marcus Shield could be, From has decent writers after all. It's expecially better than assuming it has no place, when we've really only been shown less than a fraction of what's shown.
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    Post by RANT Wed May 29, 2013 6:17 pm

    the only reason marcus shield is there is because of fanboys, not because of the design which iirc was ripped off, so I really hope it doesn't get picked.
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    Post by Marionx Wed May 29, 2013 10:53 pm

    I'm not convinced that From would pick that shield (Marcus Shield). Just because a design gets plenty of votes doesn't always mean it wins and there were nicer looking shields to pick from.
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    Post by darkrisen Fri May 31, 2013 6:48 pm

    Marcus shield is traced using a copyrighted stock photo: https://i.imgur.com/ruIgRGk.gif

    Shield of Ash had a fake contest promising that if you voted for the shield you would be entered into a draw for a free copy of dragons dogma:
    https://2img.net/h/oi43.tinypic.com/2uz4fo8.jpg

    https://www.google.ca/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=http:%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dq2iARxFBdeo&oq=http:%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dq2iARxFBdeo&gs_l=hp.3...706.706.0.1115.1.1.0.0.0.0.264.264.2-1.1.0...0.0...1c.1.14.psy-ab.48qcE7LlIp8&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.47008514,d.dmg&fp=16a7dff07cd05252&biw=1066&bih=532

    So far nothing has come up for the lion shield but for the most part this contest was nothing but cheaters.



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    Post by Silver Mont Fri May 31, 2013 6:55 pm

    Oh look, people are still trying to accuse me of cheating. There was nothing in the rules that said you couldn't promote your own shield. At any rate, I had like 1282 votes and the video had less than 50 views. You're just going to have to come up with a better way to troll.

    Edit: I was posting that video on facebook on the DaS page. I guess you are the same troll who got banned from facebook, so you followed me here? You are determined, I'll give you that much. But nothing more - I've nothing else to say on the matter, or to you.


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    Post by darkrisen Fri May 31, 2013 7:09 pm

    Silver Mont wrote:Oh look, people are still trying to accuse me of cheating. There was nothing in the rules that said you couldn't promote your own shield. At any rate, I had like 1282 votes and the video had less than 50 views. You're just going to have to come up with a better way to troll.

    You were publicly denying it on facebook and now that your caught red handed your changing your tune to its not against the rules? face it you got caught buying votes on the internet which is against the rules of any contest.

    the fact that your having problems with accusers should probably give you a hint you did something wrong. I am curious who won the dragons dogma though.


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