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    Post by CoonDog17 Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:50 am

    This thread is exclusively dedicated to Petrus of Thorolund. Why is he
    so awesome? Why does he use a Morningstar? Why did he kill Reah?

    Discuss.
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    Post by Soltaire's Child Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:15 am

    the headshot made me laugh >.<
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    Post by White Mamba Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:20 am

    Is it even the real Petrus? There is a morningstar, and a fair bit of cleric stuff, (talisman etc) under the elevator. Could he have killed the original Petrus?
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    Post by Yarxov Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:04 am

    ^ That could be why he killed Rhea too...
    He is Bowlcut of Carim! an Assassin like Lautrec!
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    Post by PlasticandRage Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:27 am

    Isn't it said at some point in the game that Rhea isn't all that well liked in Thorolund and that's why she was sent on her mission? Like she's kind of a screw up, at least in the eyes of a specific superior (I can't remember his name but I believe it is mentioned). If that is the case wouldn't it be entirely possible that Petrus is actually there as kind of an overseer? It would all make perfect sense. Consider that he's there in the early part of the game, before she and the two other clerics are, then after they leave together Petrus bounces at the first sign of trouble, as though he wasn't there to help out at all, only to observe how Rhea functions in the field. Then once she does screw up, and royally I might add, he becomes justified in killing her, which arguably could have been the purpose of his mission from the beginning. It would also make sense for an organization like the Thorolund priesthood to try seem innocent of acts such as those to the outside observer. Petrus just can't help liking his job, hence his happy little comments after the fact. The man likes his job.
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    Post by Akatik Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:26 am

    I think he's a coward that ditched his friends in the tomb of the giants. When you go down to save them, you uncover his deeds and he kills Reah to cover it up.
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    Post by skarekrow13 Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:39 am

    I've always felt Akatik's take feels right. My personal belief is the three clerics tied to Rhea represent some of the archetypes for religious devotees (as well as Rhea). Rhea is the passionate one, a true believer and disciple spreading the word (prone to pride and arrogance because of it). I forget which is which of her bodyguards but the silent one is the other devout archetype (marked by humility). The other bodyguard is a believer in the good that the organization of the church provides. I believe he has some faith and is genuinely proud of his work but his faith is more in the persons around him (believes more in what he can see and interact with than the intangible). I am not a scholar on their dialogues but the few times I talked to this guy I always felt like he was going along (despite it being a bad idea) because of his relationship with Rhea (I think he has the hots for her).

    And now to the subject of the thread.....Petrus. He is the archetype best called a "facade." He has lost his faith but continues on and tries to convince the world of his faith lest he lose the comfort he has known for so long. I never got the vibe he has enough faith to be an assassin.
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    Post by befowler Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:43 am

    I'll always love how he pays you to not talk to him at first. I'll never forget my first playthrough. Got out of the asylum, all excited and ready to go from firelink, and the first guy I talk to tries to bribe me to shut up. Welcome to dark souls
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    Post by Yukon Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:56 am

    I used to think he killed her for a cover up too, but then I head the dialouge he has afer lautric rats him out in the parish. Now it seems more like he completely lost his sanity. I don't think he is thinking rationally when you kill him after TOG, If you kill him before he flees he says something like "no, no this can't be.. it can't end this way" but when you kill him after reahs escape and death https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSL63UB0LxA&feature=related.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4GFsXvJmxc&t=11m22s I MEAN WHAT THE HELL.. listen to him, he sounds completely different.
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    Post by Darkson Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:09 pm

    ^ Woah! Wth, never had him talk like that :shock:

    Also he got the evil laugh like Lautrec, keh heh heh...
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    Post by PlasticandRage Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:48 pm

    Yeah he also tells you he's a wolf in sheep's clothing after he kills her. That sounds more like an assassin than someone whose embarrassed to me
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    Post by skarekrow13 Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:36 pm

    I interpreted that as guilt surfacing but you could be onto something. That coupled with the laughter always felt like he was descending into madness after their trip, his betrayal and eventual slaying of Rhea. That's part of why I described him as having lost faith above. To me it felt like his last bit of faith was shaken during their trip and the betrayals closed the door to the comfort he had as a cleric. As in, "Clerics don't murder, but I murdered someone so what am I now?" Then survivor mentality sinks in and he starts to feel he is justified. Another interesting quote is when he states you could go up there and do what you want with her since she's unguarded and helpless. I took that to mean, "Please go kill her for me." To be fair though, everything is ambiguous at best. While I feel the murder is a cover up, there's definitely room for alternatives. Either way, he's a pretty interesting character.

    On a side note, I liked that he used that particular reference to the murder too. It goes with the theme of the clerics being part of a "flock."
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    Post by CoonDog17 Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:30 pm

    Gee, he's antics are being over-analyzed aren't they? Was hoping a bit more enthusiasm would be shown for a character so brilliant.
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    Post by Darkson Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:36 pm

    His nose is so broad.
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    Post by Yarxov Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:58 pm

    His eyes seem to say "Beware of impending murder/r**e/cannibalism"
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    Post by Reaperfan Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:00 pm

    His armor is so good, that it's the only armor we can't get. That's just how cool Petrus is.

    I really want to use his armor sad
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    Post by Darkson Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:35 pm

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    Post by RANT Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:53 pm

    i think he's lame but that's just me.
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    Post by Darkson Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:05 am

    And on the pics it literally looks like he wears a melon as a helmet...

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    Post by Robotech Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:33 am

    I take so much joy on killing him before going for rhea. Oswald also leaves hints of Petrus's bad intentions.
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    Post by Darkson Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:08 pm

    Patches also generally analyses the characters very good.

    "Believe me on this one, bruv..."

    I love his strong hate towards clerics actually. And I think he's the coolest character, after Solaire. Still if Solaire is also considered a cleric (?) or are clerics only those who follow the way of white??? Sry if this is a dumb question, I really don't know.
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    Post by User Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:10 pm

    Robotech wrote:I take so much joy on killing him before going for rhea. Oswald also leaves hints of Petrus's bad intentions.

    Petrus tells you himself, if you give souls to Lautrec. I feel no remorse for him... although I envy for his gloves and leggings for my character. would be cooler for my character.
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    Post by WarriorOfSunlight Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:17 pm

    Dat face.
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    Post by skarekrow13 Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:32 pm

    I always thought Petrus was what Dennis the Menace turned out to look like. After he got tired of hassling Mr. Wilson he went into the murders.
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    Post by Yukon Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:38 pm

    ^ holy crap I just began to hate petrus more. Next time we meet I am taking him down with a my bow modified to shoot prism stones like a sling shot.


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