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    Which kingdom would win if it came to a massive war?

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    Post by LunarFog Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:16 pm

    Astora - Advanced region ruled by royalty, known for it's powerful warriors, skilled craftsmen, and overall beauty.
    Standard soldier equipment: Elite Knight set, Crest shield, Dragon crest shield, Astora's straight sword, and Binoculars



    Balder - An ancient kingdom that was home of the legendary Knight King Rendal who killed a dragon with just his sword. People who come from there are Knight King Rendal, and the Balder Knights.
    Standard soldier equipment: Balder Knight set, Balder Side sword, Balder shield, Rapier, and Target shield

    Berenike - Knights of Berenike were giant men who could crush a Hollow with just their shield alone.
    Standard soldier equipment: Black Iron Armor set, Steel Armor set, Greatsword, Greataxe, Mace, Tower Shield, Black Iron Greatshield

    Catarina - A land known for it's cheerful inhabitants, festivity and drink. The gallant knights of Catarina are often mocked by others due to their armor, despite how effective it is for defense.
    Standard soldier equipment: Catarina Armor set, pierce shield, blue tearstone ring, claymore, Zweihander


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    Post by Hue Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:40 pm

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    Post by WyrmHero Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:52 pm

    Lordran is the kingdom of the gods, to the north of the world. The other kingdoms are located outside of Lordran. Anyway from those 4 I would say Catarina, pretty much because there aren't many Catarina hollows in Lodran. Berenike and Balder lost most of its forces by going hollow, amd Astora is meh lol. Carim would pretty much win with all the gods there now though.
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    Post by Infighter Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:01 pm

    Catarina.

    Because they are cheerful fellas
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    Post by WyrmHero Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:03 pm

    Infighter wrote:Catarina.

    Because they are cheerful fellas

    And don't forget their armors are good for parrying.
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    Post by Kyōkai Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:05 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:
    Infighter wrote:Catarina.

    Because they are cheerful fellas

    And don't forget their armors are good for parrying.

    Assuming that most warriors from Catarina are using Pierce Shields like Siegmeyer and Sieglinde are, their piece Pierce of :dung: shields won't even let them parry lol.
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:19 pm

    whys vinheim not on the list? and what about thorolund? their a theocracy and they invented wog so... that could be nasty
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    Post by gmwdim Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:16 am

    Judging by our own history, nothing moves troops in quantity like crazyass religion, so Thorolund would have that advantage over all of the above. And the Thorolund guys don't lack for quality either, with their WoG spam.
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    Post by Poozila Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:31 am

    I'm going for Carim. Every weirdo in the game is pretty much from Carim and they're all pretty strong.
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    Post by gmwdim Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:34 am

    Poozila wrote:I'm going for Carim. Every weirdo in the game is pretty much from Carim and they're all pretty strong.

    Yeah, but the only one you have to fight resorts to ganking and still gets his *** kicked. What does that tell you about the skill level of those Carim gankers? big grin
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    Post by GrinTwist Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:16 am

    I took a vacation to Carim once, most of them are alright people not much to say about them though. They really keep to themselves quite a bit, even more than the average hollow down in the ruins.

    Catarina on the other hand, great place. There is this thing called "Drunk Sunday" imagine stocks upon stocks of beer, wine, and rum that could last you a lifetime. Now of course that's in their cities, and I never really visited the country around Catarina. Let me just tell you now though, there isn't a more jolly time you could have when your co-oping drunk off of Catarina rum. Seriously, it's great, just imagine a mix between estus flasks, cold beer, and grape all mixed in to were it actually tastes good.
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    Post by skarekrow13 Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:20 am

    And let's not forget Oolacile. They have Skarekrows. Clear victory. Not that I'm biased. Plus in their heyday they can blind their opponents with cast light (like Gandalf leading the charge at first light).

    From the choices above I would say Catarina. Perseverance, patience, good humor and more than a touch of violent tendencies is a good combo. While Tarkus has my vote for strongest individual, he seems to be the exception. His armor description suggests (outright states actually) that he's unparalleled in humans.
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    Post by WandererReece Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:46 am

    Vinheim has assassins.

    Let's not forget Solaire is part of Astoria, or Andre the kick boxer.

    I would choose the Berenike Knights. They're huge and immune to criticals. twisted
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    Post by psychichobo Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:54 pm

    Hmm, difficult choice. I'd probably go with Catarina over Astora simply because Solaire has the skill of a God, whilst Siegmeyer and Sieglinde are quite capable of bimbling up to Anor Londo, Duke's Archives, down to Lost Izalith and Ash Lake. They do get around they do, and all without lightning spears.

    Then again, they do spend a lot of time absorbed in thought...
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    Post by Ghadis_God Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:58 pm

    The Berenike and Balder knights are likely from the same land. The Crestfallen Merchant sells both of their armor sets while being a berenike knight, and the knights of Berenike and Balder are almost always found close together, as if they were comrades on the same mission. The "Knights of Berenike" was probably a name for the elite knights of Balder, a knightly order rather than a country.
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    Post by BeeSeaEss Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:03 pm

    Catarina because they like to hang out and they look silly :eye-death: U :eye-death: lol
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    Post by Kyōkai Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:57 pm

    Guy: You see those warriors from the Far East?
    Guy: They've got curved swords. CURVED. SWORDS. HUGE. CURVED. SWORDS.
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    Post by Ashran Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:37 am

    WyrmHero wrote:Lordran is the kingdom of the gods, to the north of the world. The other kingdoms are located outside of Lordran. Anyway from those 4 I would say Catarina, pretty much because there aren't many Catarina hollows in Lodran. Berenike and Balder lost most of its forces by going hollow, amd Astora is meh lol. Carim would pretty much win with all the gods there now though.

    this.

    But hey... Benerike! TARKUS!
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    Post by KingSeekerCow Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:37 am

    Kyōkai wrote:Guy: You see those warriors from the Far East?
    Guy: They've got curved swords. CURVED. SWORDS. HUGE. CURVED. SWORDS.

    :25 - :45.
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    Post by DoughGuy Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:50 am

    Whichever one hasn't collapsed into ruin from the undead outbreak.
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    Post by Samurainova Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:35 pm

    Let's not forget that balder and berenike ended becoming overrun by the undead. Hence why their are a lot of their knights in lordran itself. I ithink it would have to come down to a battle between astora ande catarina. Very few is known between them, but we do know that solaire and siegmeyer hail from each their own. So it kind of comes down to a simple question.

    Who would win between siegmeyer and solaire?
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    Post by WandererReece Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:46 pm

    ^ Solaire hurles his infamous lightning bolt at Siegmeyer while Siegmeyer is "absorbed in thought". Solaire runs in for the kill, but Siegmeyer flattens Solaire with his Zweihander. When Solaire gets back up Siegmeyer backstabs Solaire, and Solaire dies.
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    Post by skarekrow13 Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:47 pm

    I would say it goes far beyond that simple question. Heroes aren't necessarily indicative of their nation. While a strong hero can help (particularly with leadership and motivation) the quality of the masses is what would determine a nation's strength. Also, the NPCs we see may not even reflect much in the way of national culture and ability. Solaire and Siegmeyer are both good candidates to be diagnosed with fairly substantial mental health diagnoses. Mental health issues of their kind often lead to dedication that is not normally seen.

    So the questions I would look to answer, are:
    -What nation/region has evidence of a structured military presence?
    -What nation/region appears to place an emphasis on martial strength or conditioning? (the key here is regional culture, not individual or group culture since those might be atypical of the area)
    -What area has the strongest technological or similar advancements?
    -etc. etc.

    To answer you question though, Solaire is a glorified meat shield with very poor battle intelligence. So, uh, not him.


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    Post by Samurainova Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:07 pm

    WandererReece wrote:^ Solaire hurles his infamous lightning bolt at Siegmeyer while Siegmeyer is "absorbed in thought". Solaire runs in for the kill, but Siegmeyer flattens Solaire with his Zweihander. When Solaire gets back up Siegmeyer backstabs Solaire, and Solaire dies.

    Neither would ever be so dishonorable as to backstab the other. I think they both have to much pride. Good fight over everything else though happy
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    Post by WandererReece Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:12 pm

    ^ I'm not sure about that. I saw Solaire go after an invader without bowing. Although, I never saw Siegmeyer fight. He's always "absorbed in thought." I like to think he's reveiwing battle strategies, but his snoring suggest something else.

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