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    need help with my Glass canon

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    Post by Demon Slayer Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:35 pm

    here it is i want it like one shot ppl liike in out undertand me?

    http://mmdks.com/1a9g

    feel free to tweak it
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    Post by Infighter Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:02 pm

    Needs more Dark Bead, and Pursuers, lol
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    Post by Animaaal Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:12 pm

    Hey bud! I Bow to my fellow caster.

    These are things I've found to be successful with casters/mages.

    - Pursuers is a little overrated for me (I know you dont have em attuned). They are slow and the investment is too large imo. They can be used for set ups, but HCSM does the same thing.

    - WoG is kinda unecessary for me. Without being dedicated to faith, the power is subpar, and only getting 6 casts with 2 attuned is not worth it imo. I like Force better. It sets up combos nicely and is cheap...really cheap, and you get 21.

    - Dark Bead is great for its power, poise/stamina break, and it spreads with distance helping you set the pace.

    - Black Flame is essential for any caster able to use pyro.

    - Power Within is highly effective for any glass cannon.

    - Get at least 6 poise to avoid dagger stunlocks.

    - Incorporating the DWGR is not necessary, but very effective.

    - When making a glass cannon, variety is not needed. You really only need two or three "go to moves" to execute high damage once stat enhancements are in effect.

    - Strong Magic Shield is grossly underrated for any mage imo.


    I'm sorry man, but i dont glass cannon much. I usually use Logan's Catalyst in order to compensate for dodgers (no way to regenerate mana).

    I think the best glass cannon incorporates backstabs. You're on the right track, imo. The Pursuers --> CSS combo is still effective, but unoriginal and lazy imo.

    I think the dominant glass cannons will be using some sort of casting "set up", that deals decent damage and ensures a OHKO backstab if damage is delt from "set up".

    Power Within lasts plenty long for a glass cannon. You're not looking for a "fight", you're looking to destroy.

    PS-Thanks for posting in my "alter ego" thread lol. Feel free to share anything you find useful, or links that have helped you. I plan on revamping the op, so your knowledable help would be appreciated. And dont pay any attention to the old man speaking in blue. He's crazy...maybe its because of the hat? lol

    I'll try and make some ideas at mugenmonkey later, i gtg. Bow
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    Post by BLA1NE Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:43 pm

    Need help with my glass cannon
    No, you don't! Best help I can give you is to say don't do it... They're impractical and actually boring, and their only good use is for making youtube montage videos.

    Having said that, if you still want to be a glass cannon, here are a few things you'll need:

    - Red Tearstone Ring (bring yourself into hyper mode before invading)
    - Power Within can help, but isn't absolutely necessary for a caster because of the damage you'll be doing anyway
    - Bellowing Dragoncrest ring, Crown of Dusk
    - Chameleon can help. Get yourself a nice hiding spot, one-shot them when they run by.

    That's pretty much it. Not very complicated.

    http://mmdks.com/1aao

    You could also do it melee, in hyper mode poking with a long spear from behind a shield, or using ranged weapons like bows or crossbows. Magic works best for easy to get ridiculous damage, though.

    But honestly it's not as fun as you'd think.
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    Post by RANT Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:46 pm

    im gonna have to agree with Blaine on this one, glass cannons are one of the most boring builds in the game imo, i made one and got bored of it in about a week.
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    Post by Animaaal Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:02 pm

    BLA1NE wrote:- Red Tearstone Ring (bring yourself into hyper mode before invading)
    - Power Within can help, but isn't absolutely necessary for a caster.

    I disagree with Power Within. Especially if you're using the RTSR, which is pretty good advice. The thing is, you have to use a pyro hand. Again dude, its all about getting in, killing, and leaving before the cops come.

    As far as boring...beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    I dont believe opinions matter. If you like the aspect of one shot kills then go for it.

    However, if your looking to play as a caster or spellsword, then OHKOs might not be the right way to go imo.
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    Post by LunarFog Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:43 pm

    Switch targetshield and chameleon for Pyromancy flame and Power within.

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