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    Post by LagStab Fri May 31, 2013 9:55 pm

    How do you feel about backstab fishing? Is there a point of allowance for going for back stabs, or all are bad?

    What level are you, where do you duel?

    What level will allow the most PvP?

    Your set up/build, weapon/armor of choice?

    Mine: If you can backstab, do it, people can defend it, and I hate when mages get mad at a backstab. Brb, weapons/armor gets nerfed but magic gets improved..

    Level: 101, currently new game ++, dueling in forest. I need to find the sweet spot level for dueling!

    I assume level 75's have a lot of pvp? Unsure..

    Build: Dexterity + vitality. I use chaos blade, Greatlord greatsword, Life Hunt Sycthe, and Moonlight robes or Giant Armor
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    Post by tonberryking01 Fri May 31, 2013 10:12 pm

    I don't feel bad about backstabbing, especially when I'm full dragon form against someone in full Havel's. I try not to just fish for them, though.

    I usually duel around level 90-100 in Oolacile Township. I can usually find quite a few people, but I'm not sure what the ideal level is.

    My favorite build (if not the most effective one) is full dragon with some pyromancies.
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    Post by Saturday-Saint Fri May 31, 2013 10:23 pm

    Cool with BS's. Do PvP at SL 120. Use a variety of builds.

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    Post by SirArchmage Fri May 31, 2013 10:23 pm

    Level 55 is usually the range for random invasions, 99 or 100 for people that want to invade a lot of duelers, 120 for more tournament or serious duelers, and 130 and up for hosting.

    I hate it when peoples only fighting style is back stabs. Sure, punish bs, and even roll-bs turtlers, but if you can't do anything except that then you really are bad at pvp. I love punishing bs-fishers with strength builds, especially with how so many people underestimate them.

    Also, I use most every kind of build there is. I've used faith builds, dex, strength, quality, pyro, tank, berserker, you get it. My favorites are faith tanks and dexterity pyros.
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Fri May 31, 2013 10:24 pm

    I don't mind backstabbing when it comes to randoms in the game, but I don't fish it or like those who fish them. Though that is not an issue for me. Anyone is liable for a backstab from me given the chance but I don't attempt it on purpose.

    I tend to use a sl 110 build and some for different purposes at different sl ranges. Depending on what I find. My best has Artorias and Ciaran's armor and is set up as a dex/str mix so I can switch and still be strong. I tend to be in the Painted World as that I get many invasions for me.

    I don't know what the ideal sl range is but many peopl have sls in the 50, 100, 120 ranges for overall PvP builds.
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    Post by Animaaal Fri May 31, 2013 10:42 pm

    LagStab wrote:...How do you feel about backstab fishing?...

    I'm fine with it, I just don't like getting lagstabbed.

    LagStab wrote:...What level will allow the most PvP?...

    I think sl 110 would allow for the most pvp outside the arena.

    LagStab wrote:...Your set up/build, weapon/armor of choice?...

    I've personally had several builds. My favorite is which ever one has Big Logan's Hat...which is over half of the builds I had.

    Other than that, I don’t like some dead angles. Some are fine, others seem not so fine.
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    Post by Phoenix Rising Fri May 31, 2013 10:48 pm

    I normally don't BS. I can defend pretty well against them so if I get BS'ed its usually my fault. PvP Discussion 2640184516

    Usually PvP in the township, at SL 120.

    I have a few builds I use. A 40/40 quality build, a dex/faith build, and a dex/pyro build in the works. At SL 100 I'm also working on a dex build.

    Weapons: I have an arsenal...I do a lot of menu-swapping. Usually I'm using the chaos blade, longsword, bss, furysword, claymore, bastard sword, flamberge...I prefer fast-pace weps.

    Armor: Thieves' mask, black leather armor, iron bracelets, and hswc....normally. PvP Discussion 2640184516
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    Post by BrotherBob Fri May 31, 2013 10:50 pm

    1) Backstabbing, in itself, is not bad in my opinion. Fishing can be punished, so, while annoying, it's nothing that bothers me.

    2) SL25 in Darkroot Garden. Tons of PvP. I seldom see a "Failed to invade" message, despite the fact that I'm on a Strict NAT Type!

    3) If you're good enough at PvP and PvE, I'd stay at SL1. I'm not trolling; I'm dead serious. If you can kill the Kings at SL1, become a Darkwraith, and go invade in Darkroot Garden/Forest, I doubt you'll ever see a "Failed to invade" message.

    4) Meh, I switch gear every other hour, so....
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    Post by LagStab Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:40 am

    Yes, I hate fishers as well, but if the other is spamming dark magic, I do not feel 1 second of guilt about it.

    I am SL 101 right now, should I level up to get more PvP experience, or stay at 101?

    Also, what is the arena, is this DLC only, as I have yet to purchase the DLC
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    Post by Encore Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:52 am

    IT is DLC only.
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    Post by LagStab Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:57 am

    Darn sad
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    Post by Jansports Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:03 pm

    I don't see the point in Fishing for a BS, against anyone decent it's not going to work, and whats more it's likely to backfire on you. Since I myself know how to handle BSfishing whenever I see it I just let them know it's not gonna work on me by planting my weapon into them with some vigor.

    I usually hang around township and burg at SL100-120 though I am currently working on a 130 to host / darkmoon

    I think actually SL80 is where you'll get the most action. You can invade all the SL100 duelers and you can also catch people doing lord soul and DLC areas

    I use whatever armor gives the defense/poise I need for the build within my weight limits. As for weapons it depends on the build but I tend to use the great scythe various spears falchion BSS broadsword Zwei halberd BKGA large club. Those are the main ones.
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    Post by Seignar Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:32 pm

    LagStab wrote:Darn PvP Discussion 57929600
    Don't worry about it...it sucks anyways.

    I'm fine with backstab fishing as I know that unless you're skilled with that, you're only going to get hurt yourself. I PvP at SL 100. The level that offers the most PvP is Level 1 because Red Orbs can invade infinitely up, but you would rather prefer 55 in order to have a fighting chance.

    My set-ups vary. In depends on the build I'm making and I constantly switch them, so I have no defining build to answer with.

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