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    Velka's vs Ricard's Rapier

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    Post by Chumgeyser Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:32 pm

    Just found this description of the Leo Ring ong the Wikidot...


    • Does not affect critical hits (backstab & riposte: try the Hornet Ring) or striking a recoiling opponent (you have broken his guard, kicked him, or blocked his attack and caused him to stagger).


    • To perform a counter, strike an opponent at the same time his attack
      would have hit you or IMMEDIATELY afterwards, before they recover from
      the "peak" of their attack animation.


    • Normally this gives a ~20% physical damage bonus when using a weapon
      that is capable of counter attacks. The Leo Ring boosts counter damage
      by approximately 40%, for a total of ~67% greater power than normal.


    • Counter attacks only give a bonus to physical damage, so the effect
      is weaker with elemental, magic/enchanted, and divine/occult weapons.
      The pure magic Moonlight Butterfly Horn cannot deal counter attacks at all.


    • Confirmed counter attack weapons: Thrusting Swords, Spears, some Halberds (Scythe does not work but Lucerne and Gargoyle Halberd do, for example), Straight Swords and Katanas of all sizes that perform a thrusting power attack, Arrows


    • The damage boost applies for almost every enemy in the game, including bosses and large foes.


    Perhaps when you used the Leo Ring you weren't using an appropriate weapon with it /shrug
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    Post by Carphil Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:35 pm

    Counter, you find out what is it training at those firelink hollows

    Raise the shield, let them attack and fail, then attack them. You will notice a blue sparkle and a damage increase, also works after kicking them or breaking their guard
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    Post by Gol Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:35 pm

    I always thought it boosts riposte damages.
    I think I'll start to use it with my Ricard's.
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    Post by Chumgeyser Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:49 pm

    Anyone want to guess what R2 would would best with the Leo, or maybe R1?

    Ricard's is looking like the best so far.
    Balder's Side Sword might be a good choice. It has a fast and stabby R2 with good range.
    Claymore's R2?
    Any of the Spears?

    I've been trying to come up with a weapon/pyro build that didn't rely on Backstabbing or Ripostes. I was about to settle on a Lifehunt Scythe tank build, but I like the counter idea better.

    I think I may have found what I'm looking for in a counter build big grin

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