Frampt remembers past playthroughs? Or alternate conditions to him leaving?

Just had Frampt give me the speech about being a fool and shouldn't be the chosen one, that he'll sleep for now, and as far as I can tell he shouldn't have. I'm on 3rd playthrough, last time I was in darkwraiths was first playthrough. Other things I think may be relevant:

2nd playthrough: never touched darkwraiths, was darkmoon until I was about to beat it then beat down Gwyndolin (and just about every other npc) before beating Gwyn, and went for the Dark Lord ending for the trophy.

This playthrough:

-covenants: Way of the white then sunlight warrior then princess guard then darkmoon, plan to stay on that. Haven't attacked any NPCs this playthrough.

-got Lordvessel, talked to Frampt, went down but used a homeward bone to get out. Then talked to Frampt again and was able to trade a variety of junk just fine. Edit: later jumped down again and placed the Lordvessel without Frampt being there.

-then did some more of Seigmeyer's quest line, freed Seiglinde from the golem then talked to her at Firelink, then went to Frampt as I haven't returned the Firelink keeper's soul so that's the quickest way to a bonfire. As I got to him he started saying the line leading to him going away but I jumped down first. Went back, and he did the line again and disappeared.

-this playthrough I haven't even lowered the water in the ruins yet.

Thoughts? Anyone else seen this?

Edit: Going by the edit above, placing the Lordvessel without Frampt being there triggered this? That's the only guess I have.

you placed the lordvessel without frampt present, i did that when i tired and failed to join the dark wraiths, frampt still abandons you.

You need to place the thing with either one of the serpents there. If you do it with Frampt, Kaathe disappears and vice-versa. I think both of the serpents abandon you too if you place the Lordvessel without their presence.

I thought one of them had to warp you there?

xXDaemonarchXx wrote:I thought one of them had to warp you there?

You could jump down the hole where Frampt came out of.

maybe a chance to test out the pendant?

PPG-3- wrote:maybe a chance to test out the pendant?

Hehee....good call.