Maybe The Pendant pushed him
Mystery solved.
Maybe The Pendant pushed him
PaPaSmVrf wrote:maybe... goin on a leg here, and if it has already been mentioned then sorry, but maybe the reason oscar was not able to complete his mission, or anyone else, is because of the time distortion. YOU, the chosen undead, are somehow either not affected by the time distortion, or you are affected in such a way that you can help others, recieve help, yet not fully contort time, and somehow oscar knew this. Does this make sense? sorry rookie here when it comes to lore, but this idea just hit me and clicked a few things in my head on why oscar was unable to complete his mission.
Federally wrote:
More evidence to support this is Solaire. If you figure out how to help him survive Lost Izalith you can bring him to fight Gwyn, and if you use him to kill Gwyn he links the fire in his own world.
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Eolan wrote:Federally wrote:
More evidence to support this is Solaire. If you figure out how to help him survive Lost Izalith you can bring him to fight Gwyn, and if you use him to kill Gwyn he links the fire in his own world.
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Out of interest how is that communicated to the player in game?
Eolan wrote:Oh right id heard that before i was just wondering whether that was in any way demonstrable in game? might have to remind everyone miyazaki said that in the extinguish bonfire thingy....
It's amazing. I used to be part of this site awhile back but after IFederally wrote:Yeah Doughy has done a great job putting this together
Federally wrote:Eolan wrote:Oh right id heard that before i was just wondering whether that was in any way demonstrable in game? might have to remind everyone miyazaki said that in the extinguish bonfire thingy....
It is demonstrated in game, well not the Solaire bit but the time warp. Dark Souls isn't like other games where the multiplayer elements are separate from single player. As far as the game world and lore is concerned its all inter connected. So the simple fact that player characters can co exist while all being 'chosen undead' proves the time distortion allows each of us to chose our own end and this applies to the other undead npcs as well.
Eolan wrote:
Im asking if solaire linking his bonfire is tangibly demonstrated in game. I understand the time flow idea, im asking does solaire change in ng+ if you took him all the way to gwyn?
Federally wrote:PaPaSmVrf wrote:maybe... goin on a leg here, and if it has already been mentioned then sorry, but maybe the reason oscar was not able to complete his mission, or anyone else, is because of the time distortion. YOU, the chosen undead, are somehow either not affected by the time distortion, or you are affected in such a way that you can help others, recieve help, yet not fully contort time, and somehow oscar knew this. Does this make sense? sorry rookie here when it comes to lore, but this idea just hit me and clicked a few things in my head on why oscar was unable to complete his mission.
Okay i'll try and clear a few things up for you. For one, the time distortion plays a key role in everything. It's the reason why we can attribute many things to Oscar and know he has gone many places and killed many people we interact with. You also need to remember, there is more then 1 chosen undead. The multiplayer aspects and singleplayer aspects are tied in together closely and the time distortion allows player characters to interact even though they are both chosen undead.
More evidence to support this is Solaire. If you figure out how to help him survive Lost Izalith you can bring him to fight Gwyn, and if you use him to kill Gwyn he links the fire in his own world.
So in summary, Oscar failed because he was simply incapable of completing the task. So he then returned to the asylum to find someone he believed could complete the pilgrimage and free them.
bendtosquares wrote:Just curious really, been reading the recent posts about Solaire and I have been well aware of being able to summon him before but haven't really thought of its significance and was wondering if anyone could clear this up for me.
Because Solaire's summon sign is present in the Kiln, do we therefore assume that he had been able to collect his own lord vessel and the lord souls at some point in his own world? Or how does his summoning work exactly?
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