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    Post by Blade of The Sun Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:35 pm

    Does RoF stack with hidden body/weapon?


    http://tinyurl.com/7jk8je3 is the reason.
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    Post by Gol Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:40 pm

    Why would you use hidden body or the RoF if you intend to use DMB ?
    'Cause you can't buff your weapon with invisible weapon and DMB at the same time.

    And if you plan on playing a stealth toon... well... your build sucks.
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    Post by Blade of The Sun Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:48 pm

    Gol wrote:Why would you use hidden body or the RoF if you intend to use DMB ?
    'Cause you can't buff your weapon with invisible weapon and DMB at the same time.

    And if you plan on playing a stealth toon... well... your build sucks.

    There is a bow, that I can't buff, in there if you were too concerned about me being a stealthy character. I would appreciate it if you weren't so brash and thoughtless if you are going to respond to my thread.
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    Post by Maneater_Mildred Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:59 pm

    1st its my understanding that they stack... But i have never tested, just going on what i hear.

    2nd i like the toon.

    3rd put a sack on your head and its perfect.
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    Post by BLA1NE Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:33 pm

    Gol's wording might have been a bit harsh, but I don't disagree with him.

    He's right that you can't use DMB and Hidden Weapon at the same time. If your goal is to be stealthy, then I'd recommend you get rid of DMB altogether. In turn, you no longer need Fth, so might as well replace the Darkmoon Bow with a Composite Bow. And without the buff and the Fth, you have plenty of points left over to take full advantage of stat scaling. The final AR on the Washing Pole might not be as impressive as it was with lower stats + DMB, but trust me, in the end, the damage output will be close. I also re-worked your armor, to be stealthier. Check it out, see what you think:

    http://tinyurl.com/6pt29ns

    Edit: My bad, got the wrong final SL! Changed the armor a bit again, too: http://tinyurl.com/6psg4rg
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    Post by WyrmHero Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:50 pm

    Blade Hidden Body + RoF doesn't stack. I have these 2 on my Priscilla cosplay, and I don't notice a difference in invisibility. If you are going to work on a stealth build, I don't recommend hidden body, the spell last approx 10 seconds, and it sounds when you cast it. And Gol long time no see.
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    Post by BLA1NE Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:55 pm

    Hmm... if hidden body's no good, then I'd get rid of spells altogether too.

    Try this! http://tinyurl.com/87c9y6f

    But at this point, I don't think it'll cover your blue aura enough...
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    Post by Rynn Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:58 pm

    Hidden Body and RoF used to stack, while there is no visible change on your screen, there is a mild change on their screen, although it wasn't a worthwhile difference.

    IIRC you now can't cast hidden body when RoF is on though.
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    Post by WyrmHero Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:03 pm

    I would equip some kind of dagger in the offhand, for stealthy backstabs. Ah and Hornet's Ring. I would not spend too much endurance on a stealthy build. Try 0 poise armor, you'll get better at dodging!!!
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    Post by billy_bayonet Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:41 am

    www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=122936164 give this a go if you want a stealthy toon, dont forget some rotten pine resin for your washing pole, chaos bandit knife is pretty lethal with 30 humanity rocking it happy
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    Post by Blade of The Sun Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:19 pm

    i mean this in the most polite tone you can imagine. The build is not a stealth build. The build is a darkmoon build. It has the bow, talisman, catalyst, and weapon buff. I'm still tweaking it based off of the information I gathered about hidden body, but I have "stealthy items" only as a safety net. I will honestly probably use Darkmoon Blade more than anything else in the build so that stays. I only had the catalyst because I wanted a chance to actually shoot my bow in pvp. most people see that you have a bow and just rush you. I may tweak it to use hush/RoF/Hidden Weapon, but overall I appreciate the help.

    EDIT: Gear is also always chosen based on looks and not effectiveness or min/maxing build potential.
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    Post by WyrmHero Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:46 pm

    Indeed, most players can't play without relying on effectiveness.
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    Post by Blade of The Sun Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:56 pm

    WyrmHero wrote:Indeed, most players can't play without relying on effectiveness.

    I don't mind losing, but what I do hate is losing three times in a row to a faulty mechanic I cannot control. So I can choose goofy looking gear, lose and have fun.

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