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    Post by dancash1808 Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:04 am

    Blacksmithing and enchantment are easy 100's alchemy is a ***** though. some of the spell schools are easy levels too if I remember.
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    Post by SunlightCrusader Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:32 am

    I still need to max out enchanting. I have maxed smithing, one handed, smithing, heavy armor, block, and conjuration. I'm working on archery, two handed, light armor, alteration, restoration, illusion, and enchanting. The other skills I'm not to eager to mess with.
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    Post by dancash1808 Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:49 pm

    No destruction? or security? or sneak? making life difficult for yourself there xD
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    Post by Forum Pirate Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:52 pm

    I'm so ****ing sick of people here condemning strategies they see as "beneath them" or "cheap"
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:52 pm

    Yeah. 'Cause conjuration isn't enough... it literally makes all of life perfectly easy. All the time.
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:52 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:I'm so ****ing sick of people here condemning strategies they see as "beneath them" or "cheap"
    Flame war, anyone?
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    Post by Forum Pirate Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:55 pm

    Thats how it ends alot yeah. I mentioned it here instead of to the people directly because I don't want to argue with them, and no one here is directly involved.
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:56 pm

    Ahh, yes. Well, cheap tactics are cheap tactics.

    It's all about perspective. Only thing YOU can do is have your own. And that's it, really.
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    Post by dancash1808 Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:58 pm

    Take the same attitude that you should have to most things where its a matter of opinion. Go by your own beliefs and don't try to force them on others.
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:00 pm

    dancash1808 wrote:Take the same attitude that you should have to most things where its a matter of opinion. Go by your own beliefs and don't try to force them on others.
    Yep. Even if they try to force their own on you.

    And especially don't try to if it's Tolvo... *shiver* my butt's still hurt from many accidental encounters with Tolvo...
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    Post by dancash1808 Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:04 pm

    Heh, nothing wrong with discussing matters of opinion however if the other person does not agree sometimes you just gota Shrug
    also butt's plural 0.o what happened joe? xD
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    Post by SunlightCrusader Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:05 pm

    Dan security just levels naturally, sneak I'm not fond of but will do if I must, and destruction I actually do use some. The Dawnguard Rune Hammer in particular helps with this.

    Forum what the heck happened to get you so frustrated? Cheap is perspective. Exploits, glitches, and hacks are unfair that is more or less accepted as fact. However people regularly call DMB or WoG cheap and I disagree. It all comes down to your point of view really. Even gankers probably view their tactics as perfectly fair.
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:05 pm

    there's a ' there... look closely man.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:08 pm

    I'm a hypocrite, I'm intolerant of intolerance. Its infuriating. Intolerance, not that I'm a hypocrite.
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    Post by SunlightCrusader Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:13 pm

    Could you at least provide a link to the discussion if it's on the forums? Or elaborate a bit otherwise? You don't usually lose your cool easily and it seems as if you have lost it a bit.
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    Post by dancash1808 Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:15 pm

    I suspect its a case of the straw that broke the camels back sunlight...
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    Post by SunlightCrusader Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:19 pm

    Hmm I have definitely been there. One time after getting some hatemail regarding WoG I exploded. I had not spammed it simply used it at an opportune moment to end the fight. That was fun...
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    Post by Forum Pirate Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:23 pm

    The discussion as a whole isn't bad, its the negative overtones. I'm better now, no longer feel the need to go tell everyone off. This specific instance was wog "spamming." The culprit in question, and every other "spammer" are mentioned as if they're separate from or below everyone else because they use an effective strategy.
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    Post by SunlightCrusader Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:26 pm

    I allow a brief cooldown between uses but I will use them consecutively if not really spam them. However if somebody is bs fishing, heals, etc I will chain and then I will laugh at their suffering.
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:31 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:The discussion as a whole isn't bad, its the negative overtones. I'm better now, no longer feel the need to go tell everyone off. This specific instance was wog "spamming." The culprit in question, and every other "spammer" are mentioned as if they're separate from or below everyone else because they use an effective strategy.
    Cheap strategies are usually effective *shrug*
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    Post by Forum Pirate Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:34 pm

    Thats called making effective use of your casts. cant heal and dodge at the same time, and consecutive casts will get you roll bsd. I allow a "cooldown" too, specificly to ward off said roll bs.

    It was the way people who "spam" were being talked about. We're all people, playing a game, to have fun. Why must people pass judgement on others based on how they play a game? If you don't want to play with someone, DC rather than ***** about their strategy or attack their character. How hard is that?
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:35 pm

    Because their own fun is more important than other's fun.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:38 pm

    And whining like a 3 year old and getting angry is more fun than just DCing and moving on?
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    Post by JoeBroski09 Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:39 pm

    Yeah. It is. Because if you hadn't done it, you wouldn't have known. And now you know that they spammed, and now you're getting frustrated, and now you want to converse about it with friends. and when they agree with you, you're bonding, and you feel better.

    Until ForumPirate comes around and takes alllll the fun away. lol!
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    Post by swordiris Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:41 pm

    Forum Pirate wrote:And whining like a 3 year old and getting angry is more fun than just DCing and moving on?

    Hey, DCing is wrong.

    That is called ragequitting where I'm from and is the third worst thing anyone could do in Dark Souls.

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