Lordran's Deliverance

swordiris wrote:

Forum Pirate wrote:And whining like a 3 year old and getting angry is more fun than just DCing and moving on?

Hey, DCing is wrong.

That is called ragequitting where I'm from and is the third worst thing anyone could do in Dark Souls.

Oh. I thought he said BCing out.

Yeah, DCing is cheating. I don't agree with it.

Cant BC as a host. Neither is it easy to bc in a gank.

Still you should take your loss or try to deal with em.

Disconnecting is plain cheating unless power went out or something.

I'm not recommending DCing to avoid losing. I'm saying if you don't like playing with XxwogforyouxX and he invades, DCing rather than get angry and complaining would probably result in having more fun.

Its not cheating to refuse to play with people I don't enjoy playing with Sword. My fun is my choice, I won't abide your rules on my fun.

I'd rather people don't DC, and they learn that this is simply a video game. Made for enjoyment. if you don't enjoy it, stop freaking playing instead of complaining.

That's true if you are playing single player.

If you are playing single player do anything you feel like It is your time.

But don't hook connect to online if you are going to do something like that

Or don't go human unless you're hosting Red Phantom Duels.

I do host red duels. I'm still invaded by people on occasion that I don't want to play. I'm usually better than they are. I still DC because I don't want to play with them.

Sword, I can and will do whatever I damn well please to maximise the fun I have while playing. As DCing if I don't like fighting someone is more fun than fighting them, it will happen. Its my free time. Neither you, nor anyone else gets to tell me how I may or may not have fun. If you'll kindly stfu, I'll happily drop the subject now, because I really don't want to argue.

You are trampling on the fun of others by doing so and that is why it is wrong. It is a robbery of someones time and a potential win.

Forum, language is very much not needed. But I'm glad it didn't keep going.

DCing is cheating. it's the same as glitching. It's as bad as the new dragon glitch. It's on the same level. But that's my perspective. You CAN DC, but I really don't think you should since the Developers didn't want you to. Clearly.

But, if you want to, oh well. I don't get angry at people who do this. I pity them. They're not having the fun I'm having in playing the game the way the developers made it.

In the end, who cares? 'cause, no one REALLY should haha! Video game. Have fun.

Sword, their fun is not my responsibility. Based on your logic it was wrong of me to fight the bullies instead of letting them kick people around, and its wrong of me to win most of the time, because losing is less fun. Them invading me, by choice or not, if I don't enjoy fighting them, is just as much a waste of my time as me DCing is a waste of theirs.

Your "logic" holds less water than a spaghetti strainer. Come back when you have a valid point.

How is it cheating? I gain nothing. I'm not winning. I don't have an advantage. I'm refusing to engage them. They lose 45 seconds, It would probably take me longer to deal with them normally, and I wouldn't be enjoying myself. If I'm not having fun, the game has no purpose. Why then should I waste my time playing a game in a way I don't enjoy?

You're going against the rules set up by the game. You cannot quit out of the game when invaded. The developers don't want you to be able to quit out when invaded. But you go against the rules anyway. It's cheating, just like the Dragon Head Glitch.

Not quite like the dragon head glitch dragon head glitch makes you win. DC'ing means nobody wins.

It is what it is. If you use it to win, you use it to win. Using it at all is cheating, though.

I'm not breaking the games rules. I'm utilising the playstations rules, which evidently supercede the games rules. The playstations rules allow me to quit at any time, for any reason.

Dude, you said the dragon head was = to DC'ing
I just disagreed with that xD

*shrug* you're playing the game on a ps3. Just because baseball is played on a baseball field doesn't mean you play the rules the field presents.

gravity supercedes the laws of baseball.

dancash1808 wrote:Dude, you said the dragon head was = to DC'ing
I just disagreed with that xD

In my viewpoint, it is. I'm just expressing my viewpoint in a conversation about it.

We can disagree just fine. But, I still think that DCing is the same as any glitch in the game. All glitches are equal in my mind.

dancash1808 wrote:gravity supercedes the laws of baseball.

There's nothing on the PS3 that forces you to DC other than internet connection, which I'm fine with if you don't pull the plug yourself.

Hrm, evidently we disagree on a few key points I will leave it at that. perhaps gravity was a poor example.

Just because I disagree with it doesn't mean people will stop. I don't expect to change your viewpoints. I hope to, but it probably won't happen. And I'm ok with that. The subject was up, and we were conversing, but I guess it's run its course, eh?

Now let's go have some jolly cooperation!

It does though. You can't make a basket if there isn't one present. You can't hit a homerun without bases.

The playstation says I can quit whenever I'd like, dks is on the playstation, hence I can quit whenever I'd like.

The baseball field is the playstation, the game is dks. The field was built for the game, but the game is played on the field. To change the fields rules you must change the field, where the games rules are independent and less important than fields. The field says there are 4 bases. It doesn't matter if the game says there are 6, without modifying the field, there are still 4 bases.

Dks says I can't quit, but the playstation disagrees and lets me. Unless the modify the "field" I can still quit and its not cheating because the fields rules are more important.

Forum Pirate wrote:It does though. You can't make a basket if there isn't one present. You can't hit a homerun without bases.

The playstation says I can quit whenever I'd like, dks is on the playstation, hence I can quit whenever I'd like.

The baseball field is the playstation, the game is dks. The field was built for the game, but the game is played on the field. To change the fields rules you must change the field, where the games rules are independent and less important than fields. The field says there are 4 bases. It doesn't matter if the game says there are 6, without modifying the field, there are still 4 bases.

Dks says I can't quit, but the playstation disagrees and lets me. Unless the modify the "field" I can still quit and its not cheating because the fields rules are more important.

The game says there are 4, and the field says there are 4. that's reality. But the field allows you to spit on your baseball before pitching it, which is EXTREMELY illegal. The field allows a lot of things, but the game restricts it to create, well, a GAME. The game you are playing. We're all playing DkS here. If you're cheating, I won't. I can't keep you from cheating. But it's still cheating.

And the playstation would allow you to hunt down the person and hit them with your controller. Game rules work within field rules. Field rules specifically allow my quitting by intentionally making the option permanently available, just as the field has fences to determine when a ball is out of play, intentionally allowing players to hit the ball into areas where it cannot be retrieved. Its not cheating to do so. The 6 bases analogy was for arguments sake, saying "thats reality" isn't actually a counter point.