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    Post by Glutebrah Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:32 pm

    Spoiler:

    i got this from the general forums for those who didn't see it. looks like SL120 is done with.
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    Post by Ghadis_God Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:34 pm

    Done with for Arena duelers, but I'll keep 120, it just feels right. Also, SL 99 might emerge since it's easier and faster to build if you're not glitching or duping.
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    Post by RANT Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:39 pm

    people didnt care about sl cap anyway, most people are sl 130 in the burg and ive fought hosts with sl in the 300's.
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    Post by Glutebrah Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:42 pm

    it may "feel right" but it will be out dated. SL120 was just a level agreed upon by the community, but now there are official pvp brackets the community doesn't have to agree on any level any more.

    it would have been nice to see FROM acknowledge the SL120 agreement and give SL120 a special individual bracket.

    i will be turning my current SL120 build into a SL149 so i can keep pyro and the same set up with out DWGR.

    and the one i was leveling up to SL120 i will stop at SL99 now.
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    Post by Ghadis_God Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:57 pm

    I think there are going to be problems with the Arena itself, and I don't really think that DkS PvP is well suited to a 4-man free for all. I honestly don't think we should just jump on the bandwagon and change; 120 was chosen for a reason, 50-level brackets were chosen without real thought. SL 149 can do too much for each build to be truly unique, there's too much overlap between roles, and 199 eliminates build individuality. I do like 99, it's on the threshold where scaling stats (choosing one) start to beat elementals and heavy armor still can't fast roll. We dedicated players who've been using 120 don't have to change, we have the power to keep using 120 and keep it alive.
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    Post by Phoenix Rising Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:58 pm

    I was thinking the same thing...keep my build at 99 to compete in the arena.
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    Post by Glutebrah Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:08 am

    Ghadis_God wrote:I think there are going to be problems with the Arena itself, and I don't really think that DkS PvP is well suited to a 4-man free for all. I honestly don't think we should just jump on the bandwagon and change; 120 was chosen for a reason, 50-level brackets were chosen without real thought. SL 149 can do too much for each build to be truly unique, there's too much overlap between roles, and 199 eliminates build individuality. I do like 99, it's on the threshold where scaling stats (choosing one) start to beat elementals and heavy armor still can't fast roll. We dedicated players who've been using 120 don't have to change, we have the power to keep using 120 and keep it alive.

    with the nerf to DWGR SL149 isnt really a jack of all trades build. it takes SL148 to build the identical build of my old SL120
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    Post by Noob-of-Artorias Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:13 am

    I'll probably keep my build's at 120, I might level a couple of them to 149 or 150 (depending on where the cap ends)

    Even now my 120 often beats out 200's and even 225's.
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    Post by RANT Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:15 am

    thats kind of a downer for me, they just pull that out of their a55, lame. i have to say i most likely wont go to the arena thing and will end up just invading and having friendly duels.
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    Post by Glutebrah Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:22 am

    Noob-of-Artorias wrote:I'll probably keep my build's at 120, I might level a couple of them to 149 or 150 (depending on where the cap ends)

    Even now my 120 often beats out 200's and even 225's.

    oh absolutely, the SL149 build i am going to make is no stronger then my SL120 i am just going to put ALL the points into Endurance and at exactly SL149 it allows me to wear the same armor set up (that i find looks amazing) with Havels ring that my SL120 now wears with DWGR

    (my SL120 build only had 44 end, and DWGR instead of Havels, everything else is identical)

    so basically SL149 is my new SL120


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    Post by FruitPunchNinja Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:24 am

    Thats one of the main reasons im glad bb glitch is gone. Sl50 pvp is going to be awesome. I will most likely pvp at 50 and 100.
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    Post by Noob-of-Artorias Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:26 am

    FruitPunchNinja wrote:Thats one of the main reasons im glad bb glitch is gone. Sl50 pvp is going to be awesome. I will most likely pvp at 50 and 100.
    150 for me, I like fighting people at their absolute maximum
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    Post by omega Elf Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:35 am

    If bb is to be no more then where does that leave builds we've already created,
    will they even be allowed to compete in the arena, also this arena how is it really
    any different to invading does it have a leader-board or something
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    Post by ROOSTER330 Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:44 am

    sl 50 and 100 will be my thing. Anything higher in my opinion just takes away the uniqueness, everyone ends up being too similar at higher Sl's for my taste, too much diversity for each character, less strengths and less weaknesses.
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    Post by Glutebrah Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:45 am

    lol why was this moved? it was clearly a PVP topic
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    Post by Forum Pirate Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:08 pm

    I fight mostly at 80, but the japanese standard is 100-110. its not a departure from THE standard at all, just the western worlds standard. Considering from is japanese, it make sense.

    I really hope the bb isnt't gone, and 50 pvp blows so hard it isn't even funny. Unless there are some major changes to elemental weapons, it won't change. If there are big changes, str weapons will actually have a purpose there.
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    Post by Rifter7 Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:32 pm

    sl 120 was an optimal level carried over from demon's souls.
    hint* optimal.

    with the patch (which will most likely change over time, the pc doesn't suffer the same restrictions as the consoles) maybe 120 will no longer be optimal.
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    Post by Wisp Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:55 pm

    If you die in the arena, you get all your spells refreshed when you re-spawn
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    Post by bloodpixel Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:39 pm

    I'm probably gonna use the SL200 because I can use the Abyss sword's awesome flip.
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    Post by dancash1808 Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:52 pm

    Elemental weapons are getting nerfed further since somebody asked. the example I read stated that a lightning +5 BSS had been nerfed to a round 200 on both damage types. this suggests to me that Elemental weapons lightning and fire will be equal damage to +15 plus the same in their element.

    also everyone seems kinda angry no matter what from does. I kinda feel like they have done as much as can reasonably be expected. and that no matter what SOMEONE is going to have a problem with it.
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    Post by reim0027 Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:15 pm

    Glutebrah wrote:lol why was this moved? it was clearly a PVP topic
    I moved it because it deals with the PC gameplay with spoilers, as per Emergence's request. https://soulswiki.forumotion.com/t10323-pc-section-threads-and-spoilers
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    Post by TehInfamousAmos Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:36 pm

    This is one of my 99 builds that I will use in the arena: http://tinyurl.com/9o62zyd
    lol
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    Post by SEANB240 Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:49 pm

    Do you receive any items or anything after arena duels?

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