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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:22 pm

    Ciaran the Lord's Blade, One of Gwyn's Four Knights

    Since the beginning of the original/vanilla game Ciaran has been an object of mystery much like Artorias and Gough, other members of Gwyn's four elite knights. Her ring perhaps was a symbol of her power, the sheer damage a single Hornet Ring Backstab could dish out was incredible, and in some ways may have captured the interest of the community at large.

    Now with the DLC, the Prepare to Die content, released for the new PC port I, one of Ciaran's greatest fans since the early days, felt the need to do a bit of digging into her character and her gear.

    So if you don't want any spoilers in regards to her character please do not read on any futher. This thread contains in depth information about the DLC, specifically in regards to Ciaran's character, equipment, and role in the lore of Dark Souls.

    From what few scraps of footage I have seen It is clear that Ciaran is alive and well and found later at the site where the player character kills the now corrupted Artorias. From what I gather the player character can op to trade the Soul of Artorias for her blade (perhaps this means that multiple play throughs are required to get all of her gear).

    Ciaran is an NPC style character and not a boss, so she has no underlying health bar, but from PeevePeeverson's footage it is clear that she has a sizeable amount of vitality, perhaps in the region of 2-4 thousand. She makes use of a variety of techniques.

    Throwing Items- I have determined from the footage that Ciaran makes use of a number of thowable items.

    1- Lloyd's Talisman- This is perhaps her most dangerous ability as she is alble to stop the player character from healing through the use of Estus Flasks. She often makes use of this ability when the player character gains distance from her.

    2- Posion Throwing Knives- She thows mildly damaging Knives at the Player which can cause poison or so I believe, perhaps the DLC has included some kind of bleed inducing throwing weapons.

    Melee Attacks- Ciaran seems to be a purely combat oriented NPC, not making use of Pyromancies, Spells, or Miracles. Her two weapons the Gold Tracer and the Dark Silver Tracer have been speculated to cause bleed and poison damage (see equipment section for more information) and also do significant damage.
    Her attack follow a spinning/ flowing sort of combo, indicated by her "gold tracer" lighting/ glowing before spinning a in a series of quick and damaging arcs. This is parriable but it does not seem to be too easy.

    Showcasing of the fight with Ciaran ( with Peevepeeverson) and the armour she wears

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NUHBZIi-3o



    ViralEnsign_'s Projected Ciaran Build

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=3474884871341826


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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:22 pm

    Equipment of the Lord's Blade



    The Gold Tracer

    "Curved Sword used by the Lord's Blade Ciaran, one of Gwyn's Four Knights.

    Ciaran brandishes her sword in a mesmerizing dance, etching the darkness with dire streaks of gold."


    Attack Type- Slash

    Phys (at base rank)- 130 Bleed Damage- 300

    Scaling- STR- E Dex- A

    Stat Requirements- STR- 9 Dex- 25

    Weight- 2.0 Durability- 240



    The Dark Silver Tracer

    "A dark silver dagger used by the Lord's Blade Ciaran, of Gwyn's Four Knights.

    The victim is first distracted by dazzling streaks of the Gold Tracer, then stung by the viscious poison of this dagger"

    Attack Type- Slash/Thrust

    Phys (at base rank)- 75 Critical- 160

    Scaling- STR- E DEX- S

    Stat Requirements- STR- 6 DEX- 25

    Weight- 1.0 Durability- 120



    Weapon Demonstrationa and stats attributed to JCrosco- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IKUaAPNwwY

    How to get the Tracers-


    The Tracer weapons are attained by giving Ciaran the Soul of Artorias after you defeat him in his sanctuary. By exiting the game and re entering Ciaran can be found at as small makeshift Grave near the centre of the arena.

    Thereupon she asks the player character for the Soul of Artorias. Should the the player agree (the Yes option) then she simply gifts you the blades saying she has no need for them anymore.


    Porcelain Mask

    "Mask of the Lord's Blade Ciaran, one of the Four Knights of Gwyn.

    The cyclops head piece is common to all of the Lord's Blades, but Ciaran was determined to earn this soft porcelain mask as a unique decoration of honour. The mask is lined with Ivory locks of hair.

    Physical Def- 13.0 Strike- 13.0 Slash- 13.6 Thrust- 14.3

    Magic Def- 10.0 Fire Def- 12.0 Lightning Def- 8.0

    Poise- 3.0 Bleed Res- 11.0 Poison Res- 19.0 Curse Res- 11(7).0

    Weight- 2.5 Durability- 250



    Lord's Blade Robe-

    "The robe of the Lord's Blade Ciaran, one of Gwyn's Four Knights.

    A robe common to all of the Lord's Blades. These deadly women shift nimbly between layers of darkness, etching streaks of Gold into the night air, and planting visions of terror in the minds of thier targets"

    Physical Def- 34.0 Strike- 24.0 Slash- 35.7 Thrust- 37.4

    Magic Def- 26.0 Fire Def- 32.0 Lightning Def- 20.0

    Poise- 8.0 Bleed Res- 28.0 Poison Res- 49.0 Curse Res- 25.0

    Weight- 5.4 Durability- 250



    Lord's Blade Gloves-

    "Gloves worn by the Lord's Blade Ciaran, one of Gwyn's Four Knights.

    A robe common to all of the Lord's Blades. These deadly women shift nimbly between layers of darkness, etching streaks of Gold into the night air, and planting visions of terror in the minds of thier targets"

    Physical Def- 15.0 Strike- 15.0 Slash- 15.7 Thrust- 16.5

    Magic Def- 11.0 Fire Def- 14.0 Lightning Def- 9.0

    Poise- 3.0 Bleed Res- 12.0 Poison Res- 23.0 Curse Res- 11.0

    Weight- 2.8 Durability- 250



    Lord's Blade Waistcloth

    "Waistcloth of the Lord's Blade Ciaran, one of Gwyn's Four Knights.

    A robe common to all of the Lord's Blades. These deadly women shift nimbly between layers of darkness, etching streaks of Gold into the night air, and planting visions of terror in the minds of thier targets"

    Physical Def- 27.0 Strike- 27.0 Slash- 28.3 Thrust- 29.7

    Magic Def- 20.0 Fire Def- 25.0 Lightning Def- 16.0

    Poise- 6.0 Bleed Res- 22.0 Poison Res- 38.0 Curse Res- 20.0

    Weight- 5.0 Durability- 250

    How to attain Ciaran's Set-


    Ciaran's Set can be attained by killing her at the makeshift Grave of Artorias after you defeat Artorias and have exited and re-entered the game. She acts like a normal NPC offering a sort of buffer amount of damage before attacking.

    She is quick and her weapons are damaging and hard to parry. She has in the region of 2000- 2500 HP and throws both poison daggers and Lloyd's Talismans at the player.

    Upon her death the items are added to the player characters inventory.


    Hornet Ring

    "One of the special rings granted to the four knights of Gwyn. The Hornet Ring
    Belonged to the Lord's Blade Ciaran. By boosting critical attacks, its wearer can

    annihilate foes, as Ciaran's dagger laid waste to Lord Gwyn's enemies."

    Effects- Increases Critical Damage, from ripostes and backstabs, by 30%

    Aquired from- Located behind the Grave where the player fights Sif. The Hornet Ring will be on a corpse leaning up against the Grave.


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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:22 pm

    Reserved for lore

    BIG UPDATE- It seems that Ciaran is not the only Lord's Blade in existance. The Chest Piece of her armour suggest that there are more Lord's Blade about. Perhaps she is the best thus one of Gwyn's knights!

    "A robe common to all of the Lord's Blades. These deadly women shift between layers of darkness, etching streaks of gold into the night air, and planting visions of terror in the minds of thier targets."

    Lorehunter Tolvo's Theory

    First of all she is a part of a group, most likely women due to the nature of her armor. A mix of knight, Pardoner, and Witch of Izalith. The fabric of a witch and texture, design of a pardoner, and armor like Ornstein. Now then, with that idea the pardoner is known as a swordsman, standing to reason that each of them are. The term pardoner could have more of a negative meaning, such as the act similar to a Darkmoon as is with the cut content. Those who hunt others to purge them of their sins, servants of Velka. Interesting to note the mixture of dexterity in similarity, as well as choice in daggers, clothing design, and purpose of killing. With that as well a female, contrasting to the knights. Gough the Giant, all the giants are male. Ornstein male, like the Silver Knights. Artorias also male, like all other black knights. Cirian however must lead a group just like the others, likely a group of assassins. More than likely females such as herself as women make for better assassins. Not genetically, but in culture.


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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:25 pm

    Why not create a Ciaran focused user covenant?
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:29 pm

    I aM!
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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:30 pm

    Oh, lol.
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:36 pm

    Yeah Well actually its more a section of the noble knights if dough lets me but heck yeah ill start of join any cov named the Lord's Blades!
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    Post by Rin Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:04 pm

    ViralEnsign_ wrote:Yeah Well actually its more a section of the noble knights if dough lets me but heck yeah ill start of join any cov named the Lord's Blades!

    get yo *** back to de forest you have a squad of deadly samurai ninja hunters to lead
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:05 pm

    Yuh but Ciaran is cooler. you want to lead the sentinels Rin?
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    Post by twilightwarwolf Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:19 pm

    im confused wuts goin on? u makin another covenant?
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:20 pm

    No this is simply a thread to enlighten people about Ciaran's character, equipment, and lore significance.
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    Post by twilightwarwolf Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:24 pm

    i c well use her ring always but wut about the other knight because there is orenstien, ciaran , artorias , and one other?
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:25 pm

    Im not interested in them but I could do a thread on the four Knights if anyone becomes interested in this one.
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    Post by twilightwarwolf Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:26 pm

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    Post by Emergence Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:40 pm

    Moving this to PC discussion since it's relevant to the PC edition.
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    Post by Rin Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:42 pm

    twilightwarwolf wrote:i c well use her ring always but wut about the other knight because there is orenstien, ciaran , artorias , and one other?


    THE OTHER ONE????? :shock: how can you forget the name of the best most badass knight of them all, not to mention hes like the only one that dosent want to kill you it is Hawkeye Gough

    @viral no ty thats your job n_n
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    Post by BishopHavel Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:40 am

    Does someone know if you can wear Gough's armor and bow?
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    Post by nemesismonkey Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:59 am

    BishopHavel wrote:Does someone know if you can wear Gough's armor and bow?
    You do get his bow. I assume you have to kill him for the armor..
    To get the bow you have to kill the black dragon, then go back and just keep talking to him till he gives it to you
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:49 am

    Do you guys want me to turn this thread intoa full Four Knights thread? Ill do it and grab all the related info for all armours and such!
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    Post by Glutebrah Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:44 am

    it is my job to hunt down every Ciaran player i find.
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    Post by Wisp Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:45 pm

    Just did some calculations and i think at 40 dex a +5 golden tracer will have roughly 20 AR less than a +15 falchion. However, it does have bleed.
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    Post by Reaperfan Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:00 pm

    not to be "that guy..." but why is Ciaran normal-human-sized? Seems a bit...I dunno...disappointing :|
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    Post by Glutebrah Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:13 pm

    Reaperfan wrote:not to be "that guy..." but why is Ciaran normal-human-sized? Seems a bit...I dunno...disappointing :|

    Ornstein is normal sized until he absorbs Smough
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    Post by Reaperfan Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:53 pm

    Glutebrah wrote:Ornstein is normal sized until he absorbs Smough

    Normal-sized for them is different from Human-sized. For instance, Black Knights are "normal sized," yet Ciaran is "human sized."
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:34 pm

    Apparently the Hornet ring is being nerfed as well so Ill uodate that when I can.

    And thats a good point. Why is Ciaran the size of the player?

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