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Suiciding when invaded?
Grindgear- Posts : 3
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- Post n°1
Suiciding when invaded?
Well, I just got Dark Souls the other day and wasn't aware of the Invasion mechanic being tied into being Human. Is it considered bad form to suicide and deny a invader a kill? I did so because I hit them once for full damage and their health barely dropped, so I decided to kill myself rather than give them the satisfaction of killing me.
godpenguin- Addicted
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
lol.
hageshisa- Caffeinated
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
You will always find people who approve most things. For me, I would concider it bad manners if I was the invader since I wouldn't you where new to the game and all that stuff.
DoughGuy- Duke's Archivist
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
Out of interest what level were you?
WhatDoesThePendantDo?- Duke's Archivist
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
It's fine, I guess. Plus you're not "denying" them anything, really. They'll still get all of their rewards for your death, so they're not really affected in that sense.
Knight Alundil- Insomniac
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
At the end of the day the group of people in this community who care about etiquette are a nasty, hypocritical little minority. Don't care man, just play how you want to
Edit: Hit a bit too close to home eh?
Edit: Hit a bit too close to home eh?
Last edited by Knight Alundil on Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:22 pm; edited 1 time in total
Tolvo- Town Crier
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
They still get their kill, so it really isn't bad manners. If you don't wish to have a long battle you believe you'll lose, you can jump off. Some invaders might be a bit kind though, so you could be denying yourself help from them.
I'd mainly do it if you feel they are wasting your time. Or if you want to die where you can retrieve your souls and humanity.
I'd mainly do it if you feel they are wasting your time. Or if you want to die where you can retrieve your souls and humanity.
TehInfamousAmos- Chosen Undead
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
Knight Alundil wrote:At the end of the day the group of people in this community who care about etiquette are a nasty, hypocritical little minority. Don't care man, just play how you want to
Edit: Hit a bit too close to home eh?
Alundil - I don't think it hit close to their home. I believe that they instead just like being courteous - it is good social etiquette, especially on a forum with such widespread viewpoints to not ostracize any members of the community. I know martyrs refers to people with courtesy as "The Honor Brigade" That is not meant to be an insult, it is just a generalization of people who uphold their ethics no matter what the situation etc;
I just think they would prefer you to be a bit more considerate of their opinions in the future and not to be so judgmental.
Best Regards
Jason
P.S
This isn't intended to be antagonistic - I am just hoping to let you understand why the negative rep was given.
TehInfamousAmos- Chosen Undead
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
On a note, it is no issue to commit suicide when an invader invades you - though I would suggest just for practice that it would be a nice idea to fight them...
Though if you enjoy being human then I would suggest playing offline.
Best of luck to you Grind.
Though if you enjoy being human then I would suggest playing offline.
Best of luck to you Grind.
Carphil- Chat Moderator
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
Next time, troll them and make them waste time by running, hiding or throwing dung pies before commiting suicide or until they give up and leave
Knight Alundil- Insomniac
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
TehInfamousAmos wrote:Knight Alundil wrote:At the end of the day the group of people in this community who care about etiquette are a nasty, hypocritical little minority. Don't care man, just play how you want to
Edit: Hit a bit too close to home eh?
Alundil - I don't think it hit close to their home. I believe that they instead just like being courteous - it is good social etiquette, especially on a forum with such widespread viewpoints to not ostracize any members of the community. I know martyrs refers to people with courtesy as "The Honor Brigade" That is not meant to be an insult, it is just a generalization of people who uphold their ethics no matter what the situation etc;
I just think they would prefer you to be a bit more considerate of their opinions in the future and not to be so judgmental.
Best Regards
Jason
P.S
This isn't intended to be antagonistic - I am just hoping to let you understand why the negative rep was given.
Nah, not antagonistic at all man. And i'm actually happy, as odd as it may be, that I got that down rep. Made me laugh
But yeh just didn;t want this guy to get convinced by someone to do something the "honourable" way then have one of the people who claim to have some sort of etiquette wog spam him to death cause y'know... he used a specific spell/wep/gesture they don't consider "honourable".
Edit: Oh and btw dude, what you're saying about not ostracizing members because we all have varied viewpoints? Check out the thread in my sig. That thread destroyed any hope I had for considering respecting other peoples opinions here a rule.
Grindgear- Posts : 3
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
I was about level 10ish when I got invaded? It was from the first Bonfire after you get out of the undead asylum.
WhatDoesThePendantDo?- Duke's Archivist
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
That would be the Firelink Shrine bonfire. You cannot be invaded there, you must mean the 2nd bonfire after the Asylum.
Grindgear- Posts : 3
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
Yeah, I think that's the one. The one inside of the burg.
Lord of Ash- Insomniac
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
Knight Alundil wrote:At the end of the day the group of people in this community who care about etiquette are a nasty, hypocritical little minority. Don't care man, just play how you want to
Edit: Hit a bit too close to home eh?
i agree with this in not to many words those who play with honor typicaly abandon their so called honor as soon as it suits them and probably only use honor cause they dont know how to deal with "dirty" fights and rage when they feel helpess I only have ever gotten hate mail from those who claim to be honorable but on another note i like the burg for 1v1 and the forest when I want to test my mettle
Rifter7- Hollowed
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
do whatever you feel you need to do.
i tend to avoid pvp at those levels unless i'm in some good pvp gear personally..
i tend to avoid pvp at those levels unless i'm in some good pvp gear personally..
eduardolee- Casual
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
Carphil wrote:Next time, troll them and make them waste time by running, hiding or throwing dung pies before commiting suicide or until they give up and leave
Who gives up in the middle of a battle? :|
Carphil- Chat Moderator
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
eduardolee wrote:Carphil wrote:Next time, troll them and make them waste time by running, hiding or throwing dung pies before commiting suicide or until they give up and leave
Who gives up in the middle of a battle? :|
not a battle, the host won't fight, only run away and hide. Got it?
Tolvo- Town Crier
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
Lord of Ash wrote:
i agree with this in not to many words those who play with honor typicaly abandon their so called honor as soon as it suits them and probably only use honor cause they dont know how to deal with "dirty" fights and rage when they feel helpess I only have ever gotten hate mail from those who claim to be honorable but on another note i like the burg for 1v1 and the forest when I want to test my mettle
Ash please do not try to incite a heated argument.
Lord of Ash- Insomniac
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
Tolvo wrote:Lord of Ash wrote:
i agree with this in not to many words those who play with honor typicaly abandon their so called honor as soon as it suits them and probably only use honor cause they dont know how to deal with "dirty" fights and rage when they feel helpess I only have ever gotten hate mail from those who claim to be honorable but on another note i like the burg for 1v1 and the forest when I want to test my mettle
Ash please do not try to incite a heated argument.
Im not trying to start a heated argument just like you and everyone else Im giving my opinion based on my experiences Ive never fought a "dirty" fighter and have him send hate mail
petals18- Newbie
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- Post n°21
Re: Suiciding when invaded?
well it wouldnt make sense for them to do that^ if you believe anything goes, then why would you send hatemail to someone who also believes that? that would be hypocritical.
Tolvo- Town Crier
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
I suppose I should give a bit more explanation Ash.
It's fine to have views, but this is one of those things that in the past has caused a lot of problems. We've had gigantic basically flaming threads come from it. Honor people, Pragmatic people. Both sides would get really angry and just tear into one another. So we're a bit gun shy about that sort of topic.
It's fine to have views, but this is one of those things that in the past has caused a lot of problems. We've had gigantic basically flaming threads come from it. Honor people, Pragmatic people. Both sides would get really angry and just tear into one another. So we're a bit gun shy about that sort of topic.
Lord of Ash- Insomniac
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
I understan referi its fin but they had no right to down rep alundils rep not cool
TehInfamousAmos- Chosen Undead
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
I will state that I was one of the people whom -ve repped him. I believe I gave a reasonable opinion on the matter. Ash, people will give -ve rep in situations where they feel the persons post was unjust. As a community we just have to learn to live with it.
TehInfamousAmos- Chosen Undead
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Re: Suiciding when invaded?
Bare in mind that everyone has a different phenomenology. They will interpret things differently to how you may interpret it. Qualia will always come into this as everyone gains different feelings when they read things (Jokes,posts,novels). That is why it isn't right to ostracize or call people out for negatively repping someone.