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    reim's Guide to Making Builds

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    Post by reim0027 Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:45 pm

    So, I've seen a lot of threads recently about help with creating builds. I thought I'd share my knowledge; how I make builds. While I'm not the best at PvP, I do have a good understanding on stat points and making the builds.

    I'll put the individual topics in spoilers, so this doesn't look like a huge wall of text.

    *Note: this is how I make builds. Everyone has different methods, but all the concepts are the same.*

    Basics:

    Vitality:

    Attunement:

    Endurance:

    Strength:

    Dexterity:


    resistance:

    Intelligence:

    Faith:

    Ok, we've covered the basics. Now, here's a step-by-step planning guide.


    1. Pick your play style, and pick one play style. Power, speed, spells, spellsword, pyro, etc.
    2. Pick your desired Soul Level. Common ones are 20, 55, 75, 80, 100, 120, and 200.
    3. Pick your weapon(s)
    4. Pick your spells/miracles/pyros and put the appropriate numbers into attenuation. 12, 14, 16, 19, and 23 are the only numbers you will put here, unless you are a heavy spell caster.
    5. Go to Dark Souls Character Planner and max out your weapon. But, don't go above the stats I've listed above (pretty much, don't go over 40). This includes your spells as well.
    6. Pick your endurance, based on the stamina you want (40 for most cases, 30 for lighter faster weapons, base for pure spell casters).
    7. Pick your armor
    8. Adjust your endurance up until you get to the exact point to get the roll you want (fast, mid, fat, etc) and don't go one point above that.
    9. Dump the rest of your points into Vitality. Is it enough? If not, make some adjustments, but do sacrifice vitality for weapon power.


    Strongest build possible is 380:

    TL;DR:


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    Post by Knight Alundil Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:53 pm

    I click into this for 2 seconds and learn something new. I never knew the "Armor planner" Existed. Love.
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    Post by WyrmHero Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:42 pm

    Pretty much all that concerns making a build is covered here. +1
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    Post by Serious_Much Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:24 pm

    It's a good guide reim...

    buu-t I always get apprehensive over guides to making builds as it just encourages everyone to do the same thing rather than experiment a bit.. I don't think glass cannons are even mentioned here :|

    I guess what I'm saying is that you should strongly consider putting in something about different, interesting builds other than just the proverbial cookie cutter explained in plain english

    plus 1 though, if only for the armour calc, really didn't know that thing existed
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    Post by FexDS Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:29 pm

    Nicely done Reim big grin

    I take guides as recipes. You start here, try once or twice, then add your own twist winking
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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:29 pm

    I kind of agree, Serious. Also, "Attunement" is misspelled. winking

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    Post by Serious_Much Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:31 pm

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:I kind of agree, Serious. Also, "Attunement" is misspelled. winking

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    Did you also know the word attunement is used completely in the wrong meaning? I guess englishese/japanglish strikes again.
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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:35 pm

    I always kind of thought they meant it in an almost sort of Taoist Zen meaning of attuned. Like you have to have your senses/spirit attuned to the natural/supernatural in order to be able to use spells. silly
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    Post by Forum Pirate Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:56 pm

    lol at "resistance is futile"
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    Post by RANT Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:12 pm

    i would go 45 int, the extra damage you get from 44 to 45 is worth it, mugen only showed that going from 44 to 45 only gave you one point iirc but its 3(or more).
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    Post by WyrmHero Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:30 pm

    45 Int is only worth it if using Logan's Catalyst. TCC's mag adj scaling is low compared to Logan's.
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    Post by reim0027 Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:41 pm

    Yeah, this is a general guide for people to understand the basics. Once you understand the basic principles of how the stats work and how to maximize your damage, then you can make better "non-cookie cutter" builds.

    As for the Int stat, that is going to be heavily based on your Catalyst. 44 is a cutoff simply because of the Crystal Soul Spear.

    And, damn about the attunement. I'll go fix that.
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    Post by RANT Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:15 am

    That's actually exactly what I meant, players should aim for 45 int and use Logan's cat.
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    Post by reim0027 Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:10 am

    Got it. I'll add it in.
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    Post by reim0027 Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:15 pm

    I just noticed, http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/ now has an armor selector tab as well. Not as good as the other Armor Selector I linked, but still nice to have in the same place.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:48 pm

    If one needs a guide to making builds, one probably shouldn't be making a glass cannon. Just saying.

    Just to affirm your efforts reim, this is almost exactly how I build. (sometimes in a slightly different order though)
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    Post by Rifter7 Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:52 pm

    for strength you could say 14-16 for dex builds too.
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    Post by Myztyrio Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:40 pm

    Nice work, I especially liked the line "Resistance is futile." winking
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    Post by reim0027 Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:11 pm

    Thanks, Myz.
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    Post by Demon Slayer Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:55 pm

    http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=233186293427188053

    Reim you are the Best creating builds Proper Bow

    And thanks this help me a lot +1 you deserve it Sun
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    Post by sjackson12 Mon May 20, 2013 2:09 am

    I tried your steps to make a dual tracer build

    http://mmdks.com/2e6o
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    Post by reim0027 Mon May 20, 2013 2:25 am

    Stats look solid. Can't say too much about the armor. That is not my thing. I don't see any wasted stats at the SL.
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    Post by sjackson12 Mon May 20, 2013 3:08 am

    reim0027 wrote:Stats look solid. Can't say too much about the armor. That is not my thing. I don't see any wasted stats at the SL.

    I wanted something with poise that I also liked the looks of
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    Post by reim0027 Mon May 20, 2013 3:42 am

    Got it. Everyone has their preferences about armor.
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    Post by sjackson12 Mon May 20, 2013 4:20 pm

    A the same time, if there's something that can give me good poise that I can get earlier in the game that would be helpful. I'm not sure if I can get better than 20 without going overweight.

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