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    You are the final boss of Dark Souls 2.

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    Post by Rynn Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:37 am

    Just imagine this for a second.
    What if Dark Souls 2 scanned your memory unit and the final boss of Dark Souls 2 had abilities similar to any character you beat the game with that was still on your memory unit?

    Certain abilities would of course have favor over other ones, the final boss would for example favor maybe the Great Club over rapiers or greatswords, for example, but it would be a souped up interpretation of your experiences with Dark Souls, magic, pyromancies, etc included.

    There would of course be a template for players that never beat/played dark souls, but presuming dark Souls 2 happens in the future, I'd love to enter a fog gate and hear a jarring, warped interpretation of Gwyn's theme with the words "Chosen Undead" for the boss name.
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    Post by WandererReece Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:20 am

    ^ Bethesda did that in the Shivering Isles, and it wasn't very good. However, Bethesda's programing skills aren't very good either. It could work if From does it right.
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    Post by GrinTwist Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:38 am

    Interesting, I believe I would either be fighting a ninja flipping black knight halberd user, a magician spamming dark bead, or a naked hollow with a lightning buffed claymore.

    All three would be odd fights regardless.
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    Post by morte Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:41 am

    Well, I'm safe for sure. I'll either be a dex build that insisted on wearing full giants, a boxer with no shield and **** weapons, or maybe a wanderer that can't parry.
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    Post by Ashran Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:10 pm

    Oh god at least i wont fight a giantdad with +15lightning zwei.
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    Post by WandererReece Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:14 pm

    ^ Lucky, I would probably have to go up against this. http://tinyurl.com/9sa6k93

    It'll be hard if From does a better job then Bethesda, and they probably will.
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:22 pm

    Oh how I love to fight against my best in dark souls....and brutally kill the thing in cold blood! twisted I would have too because that fight would last an hour it because I'd be in a stalemate from this guy . And that's if he doesn't switch between the chaos blade, or the claymore!
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:12 pm

    the sheer mutability of the a.i required seems to make this unlikely, with so many movesets and tactics a computer player is going to be inferior unless it gets other advantages/ attacks. for example the homing soul mass's for the old monk, maybe they could spawn doppelgangers...
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    Post by Djem Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:40 pm

    WandererReece wrote:^ Bethesda did that in the Shivering Isles, and it wasn't very good. However, Bethesda's programing skills aren't very good either. It could work if From does it right.

    I finished Shivering Isles, but I really can't remember where this happened o_O

    Also on the topic, it would be good for another boss fight, but the final boss fight is too symbolic. I wouldn't like to see something like this for the final fight.
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    Post by samster628 Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:50 pm

    Shivering Isles was epic bar the fact that it broke the cure vampirism quest. I think the person who mentioned this was reffering to the part where [spoiler if you never played oblivion] you get the wood from that tree to remake sheogoraths staff and fight a doppleganger of yourself [/spoiler if you never played oblivion]. Anyways would be a good fight.
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    Post by BIG TIME MASTER Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:10 pm

    I wouldn't want the final boss to be naked.

    If he was me, he'd be naked.
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    Post by Rynn Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:09 am

    Rynn wrote:the final boss of Dark Souls 2 had abilities similar to any character you beat the game with that was still on your memory unit?
    Note the choice of any, I meant for it to combine your abilities. So say you beat the game with a person that had a pyromancy glove, and you also beat it with a dark bead using magician, then this boss would both use pyromancies and dark sorcery, relentlessly.
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    Post by samster628 Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:09 am

    So the boss has a set moveset but can't access some of its own abilities unless you completed dark souls using those abilities. Hmm while quite a good idea i dont think it will work. Firstly because a lot of people will overwrite their previous characters with new saves meaning there is no saved record of them and secondly i dont see how dark souls will remember what you used at different times in the game. i for one often change what equipment i use but pick up evey rare item on the game.
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    Post by Serious_Much Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:15 am

    I think the boss would have the name "Dark lord" if they did.. the whole 'chosen undead' thing was the tale spun by the gods to get you to rekindle the flame, and kill yourself in the process..

    Anyhoo not sure I would want it, to be honest the final boss would be a bit lame for some and fun for others depending on the skills your guy had.... I don't wanna have a fight with a guy who just has some rubbish *** weapons and awful stat distribuion
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    Post by swordiris Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:53 am

    I'd fight a SL 200 Dex build with a DMB Balder swag sword and WotGs that do like 500 damage a pop.

    I'm pretty screwed. At least no family mask or chest gear though.
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    Post by Rynn Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:42 am

    Serious_Much wrote:I think the boss would have the name "Dark lord" if they did.. the whole 'chosen undead' thing was the tale spun by the gods to get you to rekindle the flame, and kill yourself in the process..

    Anyhoo not sure I would want it, to be honest the final boss would be a bit lame for some and fun for others depending on the skills your guy had.... I don't wanna have a fight with a guy who just has some rubbish *** weapons and awful stat distribuion
    The way I imagine it is that it's stat distribution wouldn't pay attention to what your build really was. It would have inhumanely high stats as a souped up version of your builds. 4800 HP, 200 poise, and 50 in all damage related stats, for example.

    Perhaps not as a final boss, but unless this is set in the extremely distant future, I'd just love to meet myself in combat.
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    Post by morte Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:05 pm

    Rynn wrote:
    Serious_Much wrote:I think the boss would have the name "Dark lord" if they did.. the whole 'chosen undead' thing was the tale spun by the gods to get you to rekindle the flame, and kill yourself in the process..

    Anyhoo not sure I would want it, to be honest the final boss would be a bit lame for some and fun for others depending on the skills your guy had.... I don't wanna have a fight with a guy who just has some rubbish *** weapons and awful stat distribuion
    The way I imagine it is that it's stat distribution wouldn't pay attention to what your build really was. It would have inhumanely high stats as a souped up version of your builds. 4800 HP, 200 poise, and 50 in all damage related stats, for example.

    Perhaps not as a final boss, but unless this is set in the extremely distant future, I'd just love to meet myself in combat.

    Hypothetically, it'd be great to be fighting yourself, but most builds require a good bit of skill or they become very easy to take down, since they don't react as fast as humans do. This would mean that the AI would need to be incredible or it would just fail hard. We'd be better off with something like the DS Old Monk.
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    Post by Rynn Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:25 pm

    I hope in the next game, they give us another old monk fight, but restrict our AR to avoid griefing phantoms. Make it so the "boss" can't heal, and give the weapons static AR based on their weapon class. "Dagger can have no greater then 200 AR" "Greatsword can have no higher then 420 AR"

    (On NG+ "Add 100 AR to player weapon" or something.)
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    Post by gmwdim Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:59 am

    Ah, so THAT'S what happens in Shivering Isles. I have the DLC but never played through it because Sheogorath just annoyed the hell out of me. By far my least favorite Daedric Prince.

    If they do implement this idea, I guess my final boss would be really easy to backstab. You are the final boss of Dark Souls 2. 2707236321

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