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    Post by Encore Tue May 14, 2013 4:45 pm

    densetsushun wrote:Don't place the blame on the devs when the publishers(like EA) put absurd pressure on them to expand and sell 5mil. It's not the devs lack of passion or creativity, but the stifling powers of the publishers' money.

    Actually I ment the publishers. My wording was incredibly bad in what i said.

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    Post by Latitoast Tue May 14, 2013 4:46 pm

    Dibsville wrote:Ehh? And why's that? Did they actually find a map that gives you it or is it just some random set of equipment nowadays?
    It was a going away present.

    They've unlocked Recon for every player in Halo 3, now it's just another set of armor like in Halo Reach and Halo 4.

    In Halo Reach the Skull Helmet is the new Recon, since it requires max rank, and in Halo 4 Mark VI is the new Recon since it requires you to beat the game on Legendary.
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    Post by Dibsville Tue May 14, 2013 4:47 pm

    Ehh.
    Games these days are disappointing honestly.
    I miss the good ol' medieval type games, which is why I caught on to Dark Souls....
    But ever since I've played Dark Souls, no game has come anywhere close to being as deep. I loved how hard it was, how finally beating something actually MEANT something. When people could relate with my problems;

    "Hey, how do I beat the Capra Demon. The dogs keep killing me."
    "Yeah I had problems with them too, try [insert tactic here]..."


    Honestly, I don't think Dark Souls 2 will be anywhere near as good as Dark Souls.


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    Post by Latitoast Tue May 14, 2013 4:48 pm

    I really want to play Demon's Souls, if PS4 has backwards compatibility I'm planning on switching over just to play Demon's Souls.
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    Post by densetsushun Tue May 14, 2013 4:55 pm

    PS4 won't have backwards compatibility for the same reason why every iteration of PS3 doesn't have backwards compatibility: It's a new chip with a different architecture.

    Having worn myself out on both Souls games, I've taken a step back and played other games and realised for myself that Souls are not the end all, be all in gaming. Games for me are first and foremost about the experience, and any game can illicit a positive and wonderful experience. I'm currently rediscovering my love for RPG's, specifically jRPG's because they're such a wonderful medium for storytelling without overly complicated game mechanics. Similarly, Journey is a game all about the experience without so much as a narrative, but you live through the protagonist's journey, and it's compelling.

    I'm also able to enjoy brogames like Army of Two because I play it with my girlfriend, and we're able to enjoy just co-oping with one another and strategising. The story isn't compelling or interesting and the gameplay isn't top notch, but it's playable and we can coordinate. The experience is in playing together, just like in LBP.

    My point is, I used to think about other games like you as well, that Souls ruined other games for me, but having taken a step back from Souls, I've come to realise and rediscover my love for gaming in general, for the many ways in which positive experiences can manifest through different genres and different game mechanics.
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    Post by Latitoast Tue May 14, 2013 4:56 pm

    Well I have a sad now if I can't get a PS4.

    I guess I'll buy a cheap one from someone around the PS4's release date, and pick up Demon's Souls.

    It's one of those games where I REAAAALLLY want to play it, but can't.
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    Post by Encore Tue May 14, 2013 4:57 pm

    Hmm... I wonder how long this forum will be alive... I plan to stay untill the end.
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    Post by Encore Tue May 14, 2013 4:58 pm

    densetsushun wrote:PS4 won't have backwards compatibility for the same reason why every iteration of PS3 doesn't have backwards compatibility: It's a new chip with a different architecture.

    Having worn myself out on both Souls games, I've taken a step back and played other games and realised for myself that Souls are not the end all, be all in gaming. Games for me are first and foremost about the experience, and any game can illicit a positive and wonderful experience. I'm currently rediscovering my love for RPG's, specifically jRPG's because they're such a wonderful medium for storytelling without overly complicated game mechanics. Similarly, Journey is a game all about the experience without so much as a narrative, but you live through the protagonist's journey, and it's compelling.

    I'm also able to enjoy brogames like Army of Two because I play it with my girlfriend, and we're able to enjoy just co-oping with one another and strategising. The story isn't compelling or interesting and the gameplay isn't top notch, but it's playable and we can coordinate. The experience is in playing together, just like in LBP.

    My point is, I used to think about other games like you as well, that Souls ruined other games for me, but having taken a step back from Souls, I've come to realise and rediscover my love for gaming in general, for the many ways in which positive experiences can manifest through different genres and different game mechanics.

    They do plan to offer backwards compability through online streaming.
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    Post by densetsushun Tue May 14, 2013 4:58 pm

    I'm sure you can get a Super Slim at a decent price with nice prebundled games. Or check eBay or Craigslist for secondhand Slims. But I wouldn't recommend getting a PS3 for DeS as much as I'd recommend getting an Xbox for Halo.

    Tehdoomgrasp wrote:They do plan to offer backwards compability through online streaming.
    Do you have an article where this is stated? I've seen a lot float by and I'm intent on filtering out everything that might be a rumour.
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    Post by Latitoast Tue May 14, 2013 5:00 pm

    Tehdoomgrasp wrote:Hmm... I wonder how long this forum will be alive... I plan to stay untill the end.
    As do I, the last forum I was on turned into /b/ rather quickly once mods lost the power to ban for parody threads, and the censor filter was almost removed.
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    Post by skarekrow13 Tue May 14, 2013 5:00 pm

    If Sony actually comes through on a major promise (something they have dropped the ball on a good deal in the past....looking at you PSP remote play) then it will have backwards compatibility just through their Gaikai acquisition. I've seen a glimmer of the tech via OnLive giving me a free game to make an account before and it's promising for sure.

    As for Demon's Souls specifically, since it's already a PSN game it's likely that it would be an early convert to streaming services, particularly due to the rabid fanbase (that got it anointed to PS+ recently to rave reviews).

    Until it happens and happens well, skepticism is definitely warranted however (I'm looking at you Vita remote play)


    Also, it is good to break away. I took frequent Skyrim breaks this year and last and currently I'm having a blast with inFamous.
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    Post by densetsushun Tue May 14, 2013 5:02 pm

    skarekrow13 wrote:Also, it is good to break away. I took frequent Skyrim breaks this year and last and currently I'm having a blast with inFamous.
    I started playing through inFamous 2 and though I'm bothered by the art style and the different VA, I'm enjoying it as much as I did 1.
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    Post by Encore Tue May 14, 2013 5:03 pm

    densetsushun wrote:I'm sure you can get a Super Slim at a decent price with nice prebundled games. Or check eBay or Craigslist for secondhand Slims. But I wouldn't recommend getting a PS3 for DeS as much as I'd recommend getting an Xbox for Halo.

    Tehdoomgrasp wrote:They do plan to offer backwards compability through online streaming.
    Do you have an article where this is stated? I've seen a lot float by and I'm intent on filtering out everything that might be a rumour.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/ps4-backwards-compatibility-elimination-was-a-hard-decision-to-make-says-sony

    Though I still believe you should distrust anything you hear.
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    Post by Encore Tue May 14, 2013 5:04 pm

    Oh yyeah, about InFamous, know about the latest game? InFamous: Second son?
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    Post by Latitoast Tue May 14, 2013 5:04 pm

    I just became hollowed.

    Neat.
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    Post by Encore Tue May 14, 2013 5:05 pm

    Cool!
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    Post by Latitoast Tue May 14, 2013 5:06 pm

    I'm about to die, and lose my sanity...

    I'd hate to harm you after death...
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Tue May 14, 2013 5:06 pm

    And then you revive yourself.
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    Post by densetsushun Tue May 14, 2013 5:07 pm

    Tehdoomgrasp wrote:http://www.examiner.com/article/ps4-backwards-compatibility-elimination-was-a-hard-decision-to-make-says-sony

    Though I still believe you should distrust anything you hear.
    Ah, I think I do remember something like that from the PS4 reveal now. Thanks for the refresher.
    Tehdoomgrasp wrote:Oh yyeah, about InFamous, know about the latest game? InFamous: Second son?
    I like what I saw in the trailer, that's all I can say really. lol!
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    Post by Dibsville Tue May 14, 2013 5:07 pm

    I want to fight your Artorias pretty badly Lati...
    I've only lost to 1 Artorias wannabe ever, and it was only because he was a hacker. Point Down


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    Post by Encore Tue May 14, 2013 5:08 pm

    Latitoast wrote:I'm about to die, and lose my sanity...

    I'd hate to harm you after death...

    I will follow even after death and insanity.
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    Post by Latitoast Tue May 14, 2013 5:08 pm

    Dibsville wrote:I want to fight your Artorias pretty badly...
    I've only lost to 1 Artorias wannabe ever, and it was only because he was a hacker. Random Off-Topic - Page 21 3248139268
    Wrong thread.

    To be honest, I'm decent with it, and have killed a couple people, but I still have problems fighting some people.

    I'm having a bit of trouble Dead-Angling shield turles, I've never really seen someone do it so I have no clue how to do it.
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    Post by Dibsville Tue May 14, 2013 5:08 pm

    I won't allow it.
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    Post by Dibsville Tue May 14, 2013 5:09 pm

    Wasn't the wrong thread, I just didn't specify which person. Shrug
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    Post by Latitoast Tue May 14, 2013 5:09 pm

    I can't dead-angle, so if we fought I wouldn't even attempt it.

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