Dragon Magic

Okay, with my newfound confidence, I shall post my writeup for the story and mechanics of Dragon Magic: 

Spells are called Rituals ( I Need a better single word name)

Used by individuals called Sages 


Bestowed upon them by the Everlasting Dragon(s)


Summons drakes (NOT DRAGONS)


Uses Draconic attacks


Good if you want to deal damage at close range and summon draconic minions


Weapon Buffs (if any) deal Increased physical or magic damage


Self or Minion buffs increase the resilience of the target instead of healing (Increase to Phys. Defense, Health, etc.)


Catalyst is an Orb, possibly a dragon's eye

I also have an idea about dragon weapons being an upgrade path, which increases the damage greatly but is worthless at higher stat levels, just like the regular dragon weapons.

Dibsville wrote:If this were in the game, I'd definitely use it. When I saw the title I immediately thought Pyromancy, but this is pretty cool.

Seems like it could be easily implemented on any type of build, so it would be really useful in general.



Also, we already have an upgrade that boosts damage but takes away scaling, that being Raw. Unfortunately, since it only goes to +5, it's only the equivalent of a +10 weapon, or an unupgraded Occult, Chaos, Lightning, or Enchanted weapon.

 Wow. 3 years been playing this and I never even realized Raw did that. I suppose this would have to replace raw and go up to +10 (probably thanks to some ember) and maybe the specialty ember could add the stuns that Dragons adore so much.

I don't like the idea of summoning things, but alot of the spells were cool, some of them were kind of copies of other spells but still cool.

Wilkinson3424 wrote:I don't like the idea of summoning things, but alot of the spells were cool, some of them were kind of copies of other spells but still cool.

 I want to draw some minor parallels with Sorcery because of Seath. Maybe he could've reverse engineered some Rituals into Sorceries. I know that summoning does break with the theme of loneliness that Dark Souls is famous for, but I think that it really makes this style differ from the others. You're not supposedto feel a sentimental attachment to them. Hold on! Idea! Maybe, if you've been weakened profusely, anything you have summoned will turn on you! 


Also, I adore that sig.

Well I don't like summoning because gankers could each summon a drake and it would be a 6v1

Wilkinson3424 wrote:Well I don't like summoning because gankers could each summon a drake and it would be a 6v1

 Oh right. That's a problem. I hope friendly fire or weakening the summoner will remedy that, so you could gain a few allies in the situation, but seeing as that may be insurmountable . . . any ideas?

Dibsville wrote:Summoning is something that crosses the boundaries of Dark Souls. If anything, the summons should replace Phantoms. I.E., if you summon a white, you can only summon 1 Drake. If you summon 2 phantoms, then you can't have any Drakes. And Vice Versa.

 What about invader's summons?

I agree with Dibs. But, maybe for PvP type situations, you either get NO dragon summons, or, the dragons can only fight other dragons. I like your idea but even if gankers were able to summon, they would let dragon do all the work and attack you at the right moment.

I was thinking . . . Could some one list a set of possible criteria for a summons betrayal? All I can really think of is low player health.

I've concluded that summons role in this magic style will be reduced. Also, would it be a fix if summoned creatures simply wouldn't attack invaders on sight, only if they are hit like with white phantoms.

Personally now that I've thought about it, dragons shouldn't be used at all in PvP. Here's why;
I invade you, if I have the chance to summon a dragon, I would just sit back and let my dragon do most of the work. If we are able to heal these dragons, how can a non magic player stand a chance. I just attack with full force x2.
If you could set up a dragon ONLY type PvP, the invader has the choice to either fight solo, or just send his/her dragon while the player stays in his/her world. Also, you need to think of summoning times. A player may not have the chance to summon the dragon. Especially if there are gankers just waiting for an invasion.
Also, it may ruin game experience because people might just use their dragon to kill everything and walk thru the area unharmed. Take havel in undead burg, why not just send your dragon instead of experiencing fighting him. I say this because your summon has no time limit.
If your dragons can attack you if hp is 50% or less, can you kill it or shut it off?

I have taken all these things into consideration and my first realization is: I have to flesh out summons. I will use all of the current feedback and post a how do summons work thingy.

Finally! Thanks to ResIs for taking the creation initiative.

After much ambiguity . . .

 How summons work:

• Summons are NPC's in service to the player, and do not take up an invasion slot.
  
• A summon can be damaged by everything except falling, and if damaged enough, will become aggressive to everything unless it is the player character dealing the damage.
  
• If a summon is killed by any player other than the player character, that player will lose a little health and souls to the killer.
  
• A summon will not attack an invader/invadee unless aggroed or if the opponent lowers the summoner's health below 60%.
  
• A summon will attack a hostile npc on sight.
  
• A summon will attack its own summoner if the summoner's health falls below 15%.
  
• A summon will attack an invader's summon on sight. This will trigger aggroe for both summons, meaning they will attack each other's summoners on sight as well.
  
• Through a covenant item, a summon can be sent to invade another world as a more powerful variant of itself and will appear as a blue phantom. It will attack mobs, but will switch to the host if possible. I will explain more about this covenant later.
  
• A boss will almost never target a summon unless it has to.
  
• Player's cannot heal the summon directly unless outlined in the ability. A player shares all indirect healing its summon gets.
  
• A summon cannot get a status effect; These effects go directly to the player.
  

You know, this largely community driven. Make some stuff, people! Help me! Let your creativity burst forth!

   

Blessing of the unknown
Noone is quite sure how undead dragons came to exist but even so they have ties to the old magic

Player 'causes poison build up on each swing jump attacks have longer range and cause an aoe stun around player upon landing player also has a weakness to fire and lightning player takes form of undead dragon(both top and bottom halves
Overdrive
Summons a miniature complete(lower and upper) undead dragon to aid the player
Attacks
Bound: the undead dragon leaps at enemies(mid range)
Claw: attacks with claws(close range)
Stomp: attacks with a powerful stomp(close range causes short aoe stun)
Poison spew:spews deadly poison at enemies(mid rang causes poison build up)

While i am not too sure about summonings in Dark souls. I will say that blessing of the clamity looks like something  i would personally make a favorite of, If you can make a physical damaging version of it, something like double your damage output and swing speed, while begin in calamity like effect

Reckless Curse
Cursed Ritual acquired from the Lunatic Dracolich, a dragon who returned itself to life by force of will alone.
There was once a clutch of Reckless, Willful Dragons. These dragons died off quickly in the Dragon War, but not before taking scores of the Gods' faithful with them. 
You deal double physical damage from all equipped weapons, and your attack/movement speed is increased by 10-25%.Your total poise is reduced by 50%, and the damage you take is increased by 50%. The visuals are of a burning everlasting dragon.Overdrive sends out large, fast fire orbs in random directions at the cost of 10-50 HP per orb.