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    Post by billy_bayonet Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:07 am

    So a new tech has been made publicly aware on youtube called the 360 Degree Ghost strike, its basicly a Forced Dead angle with more uses and can be used on Nearly any Weapon.

    I have been using the technique past few weeks and have been perfecting its use. its not that consistent yet but i plan on getting better.

    I wonder about your thoughts on the issue


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    Post by Aigaios Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:51 am

    I really dont know what to say, half of me is shocked and excited to experiment with this and the other half thinks this should have never been discovered and will be the subject of a lot of future ragemails that I will receive. Now that I think about it... This is the answer to my bane, turtles nothing will save you now!

    Looks so AMAZING with katanas.
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    Post by Tolvo Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:01 am

    This is one of those things I've been hoping would never get discovered by more and publicly known.  This is the dark side of dead angling, I should also mention this is against the rules since in the video you posted they detail how to do it.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:06 am

    people have posted videos of EWGF's Pvp oddities before which had Dead angling in it
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    Post by Tolvo Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:13 am

    The mods will decide, dead angling has seem to always have been gotten the greenlight and while this is a form of dead angling it has much more wicked potential.  It's up to the mods really.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:14 am

    We cant keep hiding away from these things its out in the public and if we dont know about it then how do we counter it
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    Post by Zeta Prime Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:17 am

    They are delving to deep! some secretes were never meant to be found, some powers never meant to be trifled with! tongue  I remember when the video came out for the roll move that allowed you to roll but land facing the opposite direction... I was frightened but, I never found a pvper who did it to me.

    This seems pretty deadly as well.. how does it holdup against moving targets and ones that fight back? is it a great advantage?
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    Post by Kirk-Barb Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:32 am

    Time to learn how to pvp without a shield. PvE
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:45 am

    Dear god this is not what I wanted. Well time to start duel wielding now with this thing around since shields are worthless. Not joking this is one thing I hoped never happened.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:49 am

    i dont think its a bad thing, means the end of turtles and such, also its very punishable you can bs them as they try it, and it can also be parried like a normal attack.


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    Post by Sentiel Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:14 pm

    I was under the impression that we're forbidden to speak about glitches and such in here. But I guess it boils down to personal opinion on such things.

    As for me, I was aware of this "secret technique" for some time, but never spoke about it so that it doesn't ruin PvP for me any further in case it would go widespread like regular Dead Angles and Toggle Escape did.

    In the end, it doesn't concern me that much anymore because I mostly gave up on Dark Souls' broken PvP some time ago. I can only hope that Dark Souls II will be rid of such nonesense.
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    Post by Acarnatia Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:23 pm

    This sucks. Billy raises a valid opint about coutnering it, though I'm not sure that makes it okay to post it, regardless.
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    Post by Tolvo Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:24 pm

    How to counter a glitch is fine to talk about, we often do discuss with each other how to counter glitches.
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    Post by billy_bayonet Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:27 pm

    the forum constantly cries about pvp being broken and such, but you will willingly ignore stuff like this and not even learn about it to coutner it am i the only one who can see the hypocrisy?
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    Post by Soris Ice Goldwing Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:39 pm

    Some things are better left in the dark. My issue is the fact it tells you how to perform it. Countering it sure but not knowing how to do it.
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    Post by Sentiel Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:45 pm

    Why learn to counter broken mechanics of the game?
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    Post by quench Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:53 pm

    Awww **** pvp just got harder for me AGAIN!!!!!!!
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    Post by Acarnatia Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:54 pm

    ^better point.
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    Post by DigitaLinsanitY Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:00 pm

    If given a choice, I'd rather stuff like this not exist... but really I'm not too bathered by it. We've all encountered much more obnoxious glitches.

    The fact that you can parry it and it has a longer starting animation make it managable.
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    Post by Zeta Prime Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:22 pm

    ^ agreed

    also he's using it on a non moving target.. we all still know how to dodge and fight back right? it can't be that big of a deal.. but the washing pole is scary... complimented with that un-blockable attack and it's range.. oh no
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    Post by GrinTwist Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:49 pm

    I think I've seen this on PS3, although this is from memory but it's not hard to counter. You just need to avoid using a shield if you see someone about to do this type of attack oh and dodge once they do it of course.

    Oh and yes the washing pole is a horrible thing to deal with if they're using this attack.
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    Post by OrnsteinBro Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:32 pm

    Soris Ice Goldwing wrote:Some things are better left in the dark. My issue is the fact it tells you how to perform it. Countering it sure but not knowing how to do it.
    No. 

    It is essential to know how to perform something to be able to counter it. Not understanding the process that makes a counter work pretty much invalidates the usefulness of a counter, as an intelligent glitcher can always work around what is effectively a laundry list of instructions.

    Furthermore, restricting information only serves to make it even more difficult to identify what type of glitch you are trying to counter (and, as a result, make countering even more difficult), since there are potentially many ways to achieve the same thing the glitch does. 

    Covering up information also reduces the number of people working on countering the glitch/tactic, drastically reducing the chances that a fix or a counter will ever reach the general public. Basically, it greatly widens the gap between the people who know how to exploit it and do, and the people who don't.

    In this respect, glitching very similar to security flaws; they're both arms races. There is always bound to be some loophole somewhere, and the most important element to handling said loophole is awareness. The fact that one person can discover it just means that there are many more out there who potentially also could do the same, and abuse it.

    That's why these things shouldn't be kept in the dark, because in the long run absence of knowledge is only hurting everyone more than it is helping them.


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    Post by billy_bayonet Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:01 pm

    People are to quick to condemn something they know nothing about.

    its easy to right something off, or kick it under the carpet and hope it doesnt exist and we wonder why the community is degenerating into what it has become.
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    Post by Sentiel Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:04 pm

    Yet all I see is the quality of the PvP degrading because of people that use exploits.
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    Post by Leet Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:59 pm

    I see how it is billy!

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