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    Ceaseless Discharge is an optional boss!

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    Post by Tolvo Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:42 pm

    Ahhh, I'm torn! This character is supposed to host FC in strange spots, so I don't know if I should kill the Centipede, but...Research....Ahhhh! He is an Int toon too, so the Centipede would be incredibly easy for him to kill.
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    Post by DoughGuy Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:48 pm

    This is a difficult time for you Tolvo but remember, you can always make a new toon but if we dont get our research now my head is going to explode!
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    Post by Tolvo Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:13 pm

    I remembered actually if you just cut his tail off you get the ring, so I left him alive. I then ran around the Taurus Demons, Orange and Flameplate Ring, Flash Sweat, full Gold Hemmed. I picked up the Chaos ember by his feet, and found nothing. Killed some Demons before dying, however I found out you can hit him from down here, and he won't strike back.
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    Post by PhlyingDutchman Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:17 pm

    I'll try to run that fiery gauntlet later tonight, but I really want Kirk to invade me since I've never done his quest line to completion. I'll let you guys know if he shows up with Ceaseless alive.
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    Post by DoughGuy Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:02 am

    He does, I already had him invade me. Just be human cause it raises your fireDef so it works out for the best anyway.
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    Post by Railage Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:07 am

    DoughGuy wrote:What if told you the BB glitch wasn't a gltich?

    Matrix reference?
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    Post by Tolvo Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:08 am

    Do you think I should kill the bed of Chaos and see if anything happens to him?
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    Post by DoughGuy Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:43 am

    Yes. Leaving him alive has to do something if its meant to be difficult.

    Railage wrote:
    DoughGuy wrote:What if told you the BB glitch wasn't a gltich?

    Matrix reference?

    yep.
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    Post by PhlyingDutchman Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:13 am

    Wow it totally worked! Not that I didn't believe y'all, I just wanted to see it for myself! Upgraded Black Iron Armor actually has even better flame resistance than Giant's, btw. I made it without the Flame Stoneplate Ring, because I didn't want to lose my RoFaP, and I used DWGR for fast run and flash sweat as my buff. I sniped the Capra with dragonslayer arrows to clear the way, and then made a dash for it, using Estus about halfway. On the other side, I was promptly invaded by Kirk, who fell quickly to my sunlight-infused balder sword. I killed the Firesage, opened the elevator, and then killed the Centipede without issue. Truly an optional boss.


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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:29 am

    Awesome but I wonder if this is the strange method Miyazaki mentioned. Even if it is that case what is the significance of being able to by pass Ceaseless Discharge?
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    Post by DoughGuy Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:28 am

    Hopefully when Tolvo gtets back from killing the bed of chaos there will be some change with ceaseless. It always seemed weird to me that killing the bed did not unmake the demons it spawned/mutated. I also think Quelaan may give you a new quest, saving her brother or something.
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    Post by Tolvo Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:24 am

    Snakes, why did it have to be snakes? It figures my most hated boss in the entire game is needed for research, son of a *****.
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    Post by ViralEnsign_ Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:31 am

    Do it and we'll like you more.

    Peer pressure always works...hehe.twisted
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    Post by Tolvo Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:24 am

    291 tries, and finally I managed to kill the Bed of Chaos, I hope this information is worth something because I'm literally never playing Dark Souls again. This completely ruined the game for me, I can't even pick up my controller anymore. Nothing happens, nothing changes. He does *** nothing at all, it took all night and zip, nada. I hope you're *** satisfied.
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    Post by Gol Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:31 am

    ENB says he thinks (I don't think I misheard, I'm pretty sure he said he wasn't sure) Miyazaki said that, but maybe Miyazaki just said you could kill him without really fighting him and was talking about the method wich consist in making the boss falling off of the edge and we all agree about the fact that it looks like a glitch.
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    Post by Tolvo Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:32 am

    My Bed of Chaos is dead, my Ceaseless Discharge is still alive.
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    Post by DoughGuy Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:09 am

    Well ... crap. That really really sucks. Have you spoken to Quelana? Maybe she says something?
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    Post by Tolvo Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:21 am

    I'll try, but I don't know how far I'll make it from the bonfire.
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    Post by DoughGuy Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:39 am

    Can i just ask why was it so hard to beat the bed of chaos? Surely you've done it loads of times before?
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    Post by Tolvo Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:43 am

    She just said she was blessed to have met me, that she could call me a fool no longer, and gave me tempest like usual.

    That is the most difficult boss in the game for me, you can't dodge it's attacks. Your damage output doesn't matter, your shield doesn't matter, your armor doesn't matter, you poise doesn't matter. It just kills you, and if you're lucky you'll make it through. At one point I literally couldn't lock onto the parasite in the middle, so I had to try and hit it with a rapier which you must imagine was near impossible, so for my next run I had to take a long sword out of the box, got fire tempest while breaking through branches, finally made it in and again fire tempest. It just kills you, I *** hate it. The worst boss in the game.
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    Post by befowler Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:46 pm

    ChizFreak wrote:
    Wade_Wilson wrote:He's either making an april fools joke or referring to the bottomless box glitch.

    Maybe the BB glitch isn't a glitch?

    A number of us have long thought this, although it's hard to explain given the forum restrictions on discussing its mechanics. Let's just say that beyond the suggestive name not only has it not been patched, it was actually made easier in 1.05.

    And I join Tolvo in calling bed of chaos the worst boss in the game (and among the worst designed in any game I've faced). Most bosses not only aren't stupidly random like boc, but let you have a fair chance of beating them with whatever build type you've developed. With bed of chaos, regardless of my build the only way I ever beat it is with a high upgrade eagle shield and precise blocking of the horizontal sweeps. And even then you often just eat random fire blasts or spikes. I've actually had it kill me before I even fell completely out of the entry chute, which was basically like getting OHKO'd by a boss while you're still stepping through a fog gate. What's the point?
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    Post by callipygias Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:36 pm

    Tolvo wrote: , you can't dodge it's attacks. Your damage output doesn't matter, your shield doesn't matter, your armor doesn't matter, you poise doesn't matter. It just kills you, and if you're lucky you'll make it through. At one point I literally couldn't lock onto the parasite in the middle, so I had to try and hit it with a rapier which you must imagine was near impossible, so for my next run I had to take a long sword out of the box, got fire tempest while breaking through branches, finally made it in and again fire tempest. It just kills you, I *** hate it. The worst boss in the game.
    True that damage output doesn't matter, but you can dodge or roll through all its attacks, and block its "arm" swipes with even a medium shield. The only one you can't block is when it does the swipe with its left arm and then slams it down, but you can just block the first, then roll.

    Oh, and next time your weapon won't hit the parasite just roll into it. Or unequip and punch it.

    Just to go further off topic, the other day I went to help a friend kill it. Had him hang back while I jumped down to that branch. Apparently BoC is another boss that gets tougher in co-op, because it actually hit me with Fire Tempest ON THE BRANCH, right when I landed. First time ever.
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    Post by Darkstar485 Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:44 pm

    quote:Just to go further off topic, the other day I went to help a friend kill it. Had him hang back while I jumped down to that branch. Apparently BoC is another boss that gets tougher in co-op, because it actually hit me with Fire Tempest ON THE BRANCH, right when I landed. First time ever.[/quote

    Oh no, trust me, it does that outside of coop. over, and over, and over again... fun times...fun times...


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    Post by Kaminari Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:57 pm

    callipygias wrote:
    Tolvo wrote: , you can't dodge it's attacks. Your damage output doesn't matter, your shield doesn't matter, your armor doesn't matter, you poise doesn't matter. It just kills you, and if you're lucky you'll make it through. At one point I literally couldn't lock onto the parasite in the middle, so I had to try and hit it with a rapier which you must imagine was near impossible, so for my next run I had to take a long sword out of the box, got fire tempest while breaking through branches, finally made it in and again fire tempest. It just kills you, I *** hate it. The worst boss in the game.
    True that damage output doesn't matter, but you can dodge or roll through all its attacks, and block its "arm" swipes with even a medium shield. The only one you can't block is when it does the swipe with its left arm and then slams it down, but you can just block the first, then roll.

    Oh, and next time your weapon won't hit the parasite just roll into it. Or unequip and punch it.

    Just to go further off topic, the other day I went to help a friend kill it. Had him hang back while I jumped down to that branch. Apparently BoC is another boss that gets tougher in co-op, because it actually hit me with Fire Tempest ON THE BRANCH, right when I landed. First time ever.

    not like I want to brag or something, but it has been hitting me with the firestorm half a second before I was going to hit the parasite, I had my weapon swinged back, never had the time to swing it forward sad

    Also, I feel sorry for tolvo sad doing all the sh*t and get nothing for it sad
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    Post by Matthew718 Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:56 pm

    Has anyone tried progressing further with the pendant and having skipped ceasless discharge to see if there are any other differences.

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