Quelaag Fury Sword...why the hating?

i dont really use dex weapons much but at sl 120 qfs is pretty weak compared to other weapons.

I feel it depends on perference and movesets, I usually perfer to use it on S&O only, otherwise I'm using a longsword so I can stab as well.

In regards to higher ARs aside from great weapons, I believe lightning weapons and some chaos weapons if you have 10 humanity could beat it.

I don't hate it. I just don't use it because I find that other weapons give you more bang for your buck. However, I'll give it another go just in case I've underrated it. I'm always ready to learn (usually the hard way)

QFS may do less damage, but it's also much quicker than most weapons. It's very effective. I think the distaste some people have for it stems from the idea of it being a "first playthrough" weapon. Kind of like the Drake Sword (minus the scaling issues). If you get a hold of it your first trip through Anor Londo it'll be your best friend for a while, but I think most people sort of move on from it eventually.

I remember thinking at first how wicked-cool the thing is, but somewhere in my second playthrough the elegance of many of the other amazing weapons in the game drew me away from it.

Its great, 500ish AR on a 3.5 weight weapon. It stunnlocks better than its weight, it can parry if in left hand, it has reach and speed.

The downside to its low weight is that it makes it a favorite of the... I'll call them "super-low-level invaders" in the Burg/Parish. But if they didn't use QFS they'd just use something else, I guess.

I like it but there are simply better weapons out there. For example I have strength build and use a Zweihender plus a lightning Ricard's Rapier and the rapier does better damage then QFS and has an elegant move set as well.

Actually, for such a crazy-looking weapon, the Furysword has a fairly elegant moveset too. That graceful scimitar arc. Nothing can match the rapiers in that respect though.

Yes, I would love to upgrade Velka's Rapier - seems like a formidable weapon - but I don't have the patch ( I have to buy an adapter so my 360 can connect to my wi-fi) so TT is almost impossible for me to get. Are there any good rapiers that do not require TT to upgrade?

Also, without the patch, titanite chunks are extremely hard to find. I spent two hours defeating royal sentinals in Anor Londo with my humanity at 6, and serpent ring equipped, and did not get a single chunk. Seems like the patch makes drops much more common. And before anyone mentions it, I've had no luck with harvesting TT from clams. At least at Ash Lake. All I got was purging stones for my effort.

Peace, and thanks for the replies,

TOkidd

Tokidd wrote:Yes, I would love to upgrade Velka's Rapier - seems like a formidable weapon - but I don't have the patch ( I have to buy an adapter so my 360 can connect to my wi-fi) so TT is almost impossible for me to get. Are there any good rapiers that do not require TT to upgrade?

Also, without the patch, titanite chunks are extremely hard to find. I spent two hours defeating royal sentinals in Anor Londo with my humanity at 6, and serpent ring equipped, and did not get a single chunk. Seems like the patch makes drops much more common. And before anyone mentions it, I've had no luck with harvesting TT from clams. At least at Ash Lake. All I got was purging stones for my effort.

Peace, and thanks for the replies,

TOkidd

Responding to your points in reverse ftw!

Man...I remember having to farm TT from the Clams...not fun. I would say though, depending on how easily you can kill the clams, farming the ones outside of Seath's second boss chamber is much more efficient than Ash Lake. At least twice the amount of clams and an easily accessible bonfire so you aren't running around alot (given that you've beaten Seath that is ).

As to the titanite Chunks, I'd say go to New Londo and farm the Darkwraiths. They're much easier to kill than the Royal Sentinels, theres 10 Darkwraiths per run as opposed to 2 Sentinels, and have a (what feels like at least) much higher drop rate. You may even get really lucky and find a slab on one of them

As to the rapiers, the (generally considered) best rapiers are the ones that don't use Twinkling. The normal Rapier, Estoc, and Ricard's Rapier are the most popular ones to my knowledge and they all go up with normal titanite upgrade paths, meaning if you're going Int (I'm assuming you at least have some Int since you showed interest in trying Velka's) you can still make them Magic/Enchanted or even just +15 along with the Crystal Magic Weapon buffing spell.

Anyway, hope this helps some

Ditto to all that^ (and +1 if I had one left to give).

Thanks Reaperfan, I'll definitely look into those other rapiers you mentioned.

QFS is great in PVE, but PVP is another thing. I love QFS, and I'll always keep it on me for a quick menu swap. That said, it's a weapon that takes time to find the proper style. It has range, scales, and is the midground for curved to great curved swords. It's strength lies in it's ability to stunlock and using its sweeping r2s, but you have to be able to get through poise, which is getting hard to do with turtles and flipping tanks.

Tokidd wrote:Ok, thank-you for contributing. But putting aside greatswords, which weapons are more powerful than the QFS?

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Most weapons in a dedicated build will out damage it.
That 420 number is not as magic as you think, my Great scythe +15 with 40 dex does 500 Pure Physical Damage. A Butcher knife +15 does 420 Pure Physical with 50 Str, A Falchion+14 with 40 Dex does ~400 Pure Phys damage.

I specify Pure Phys because it is better than the split damage of QFS.

When I see it in PvP I can't help but laugh, It hits me for maybe 100 damage max? The only bad thing (for me) is the stunlock.

^^Right there is my reason.....my Scythe does tons of damage. But really, I like the moveset better.

I have a build that uses it as a secondary weapon. I think people tend to under estimate it because of the split damage but 75-80% of the damage(not sure of exact numbers) is fire which is higher then any fire or chaos weapon. Plus if you're fighting a turtle it tends to be more effective then a pure physical damage weapon do to the fact that most shields have a lower defense to elements than to physical damage. Bonus it is harder to parry it then greatswords and such unless you're fighting a skilled player or your opponent is just lucky.

Great scythe +15 is amazing. I have a chaos great scythe +5 that its great with enough humanity. In pve the damage difference from the regular great scythe +15 is negligible, but in pvp it packs quite a wallop. Also dead angle and wide sweeping r2 attack.

I just wish the Crystal Halberd was repairable. Mainly because those evil little b*****ds in the Duke's Archives don't like it one bit.