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    Life without the DWGR.

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    Post by WyrmHero Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:40 pm

    I wonder how PvP would be without the DWGR. Would everyone fast roll? Would a new higher SL cap be established so that tank builds can fast roll? 50 End minimum builds? Havel's Ring a must? If DWGR didn't exist, this would be my build.

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    LOL @ the rings.
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    Post by TehInfamousAmos Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:45 pm

    I do without DWGR and med roll on some builds.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:48 pm

    Mine

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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:50 pm

    I think it would do the online aspect of DkS a world of good. But that's just my personal opinion.

    Maybe I'm biased since I usually go to the trouble of keeping most my builds at regular fast-roll speed.
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    Post by WyrmHero Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:51 pm

    LOL Forum I think everyone would use Havel's + FAP.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:54 pm

    I'd only use something else with casters. Every melee oriented build would be 56 poise and fast roll, whatever the cost.
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    Post by WyrmHero Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:56 pm

    Indeed, I don't think we would see an increase of fat rolls. Maybe medium rolls...
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    Post by Forum Pirate Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:59 pm

    Their would be more fat folls, they'd just all be turtles.
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    Post by Buggy Virus Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:06 am

    We wouldn't raise the level cap, turtles would just have to deal with not having a fast roll.
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    Post by RANT Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:08 am

    this is what i wear sometimes, i go with med roll a lot which is actually pretty good and not that much changes in my fighting styles when i do. i would never fat roll, i just dont like tanking(i dont mean turtling which most fat rollers do)
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    Post by DamageCK Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:10 am

    I have some with and some without. Never used a build that didn't have some form of fast roll. You'd probably just end up seeing even more Dex builds to keep weight down. Or turtle tanks as suggested.
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    Post by WyrmHero Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:14 am

    Yeah, everyone with tiny weapons. At least we would see less Zweis and BKGAs, LOL!
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    Post by Unforseen Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:33 am

    I have had most of my characters have the ability to fast roll with some nice armor and decent poise. Since i generally go for pure melee builds, it leaves me with a larger array of armors and weapons to use while fast rolling. It's fun in pvp imo.
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    Post by FruitPunchNinja Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:54 am

    Im about to post a topic you guys might be interested in winking well maybe.
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    Post by bloodpixel Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:57 am

    No black cleric robe?
    Disappoint.
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    Post by ErrJon6661 Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:57 am

    If you don't worry about poise, the dwgr becomes useless. I've been free of it ever since I started running 0 poise builds.
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    Post by Federally Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:49 am

    I did away with the DWGR a while ago.

    I have 2 fast rollers, a medium roller and a fat roller. I love my fat roller tbh, everyone gets over confident thinking I'll be easy to BS, poor them.
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    Post by ErrJon6661 Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:23 am

    Its actually not really any easier to bs someone who's rolling slow. It all depends on how good that person is at defending against bs.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:02 am

    **** 0 poise.

    You're argument is absurd by the way. If I don't worry about damage, weapons become useless. If you don't worry about life, air becomes useless. Technically true, but not valid become its to broad.
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    Post by Federally Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:26 am

    ErrJon6661 wrote:Its actually not really any easier to bs someone who's rolling slow. It all depends on how good that person is at defending against bs.

    It doesn't matter if its true or not, they think it's true, which leads to death by blunt force trauma.
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    Post by N_Raist Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:44 am

    My thoughts about the DWGR: it should work with a burden weight, and not with a percentage. If you are under, lets say, 30.0 weight, you can ninja roll. It would totally make sense, because a ninja tank is simply stupid. My opinion.

    WyrmHero wrote:LOL Forum I think everyone would use Havel's + FAP.

    That would mean no Hornet Ring.
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    Post by Forum Pirate Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:05 am

    Ever been bsd by a lightning great axe? Without the hornets ring it breaks the 1400 mark, more than enough to kill many builds, and thats no dragon roar, no pw, not a counter attack.


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    Post by Forum Pirate Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:09 am

    The game is what it is guys, either don't play, or stop complaining about things you don't like. Email From, because they can change things. We can't.
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    Post by Darkson Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:18 am

    But at least people can discuss things/share their oppinions/look for affirmation.

    I guess mainly it's about looking for affirmation...
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    Post by Federally Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:24 am

    Forum Pirate wrote:The game is what it is guys, either don't play, or stop complaining about things you don't like. Email From, because they can change things. We can't.

    People talk about things they like. Sometimes they even complain about things they like. It's the way of things, don't fight it.

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