Life without the DWGR.

I think cutting poise in half would still be a better option. The description could be something like:

"Makes the wearer lighter than air, but they lose their footing much more easily.

The assassins of the far east took pride in their ability to out maneuver their foes, but their lack of fortitude made even the smallest attacks detrimental to their movement. "

That way even someone wearing full havels with the dwgr only has just over 60 poise.

I would use the same character. Who needs armour anyways?

Thats how I roll pretty much. I use armor for the looks.

Plus for its weight, most of the light armor offers great defense against elemental and magic weapons, meaning 80% of players you go against won't do good damage to you.

All this talk about medium roll being ok, the truth of the matter is it isn't as good as the flip roll (IMO). Not only does it give more i-frames and mobility, but it also allows for more defense and poise per stat point.

I'll agree that flipping tanks are annoying though.

There are 3 things to keep in mind when choosing armour. In order - Style, poise, weight.

Style; Poise and Weight are luxurious.

reim0027 wrote:All this talk about medium roll being ok, the truth of the matter is it isn't as good as the flip roll (IMO). Not only does it give more i-frames and mobility, but it also allows for more defense and poise per stat point.

I'll agree that flipping tanks are annoying though.

I don't think anybody in their right mind would say that the medium roll is as good as the ninja flips, just that they've found the medium roll to be adequate and the ninja flips not entirely necessary for their builds

Reaperfan wrote:

reim0027 wrote:All this talk about medium roll being ok, the truth of the matter is it isn't as good as the flip roll (IMO). Not only does it give more i-frames and mobility, but it also allows for more defense and poise per stat point.

I'll agree that flipping tanks are annoying though.

I don't think anybody in their right mind would say that the medium roll is as good as the ninja flips, just that they've found the medium roll to be adequate and the ninja flips not entirely necessary for their builds

Ok, that makes sense. Never really cared for the medium roll myself, but I haven't used it in PvP either.

I never said medium rolling is better, it is a fact it is much weaker. But I still like to do it, think of it as fighting with an arm behind your back. You lose, oh well you had a massive disadvantage. You win? Ha! You beat them with only one arm!

Tolvo wrote:I never said medium rolling is better, it is a fact it is much weaker. But I still like to do it, think of it as fighting with an arm behind your back. You lose, oh well you had a massive disadvantage. You win? Ha! You beat them with only one arm!

This is how I feel fat rolling. Fat Rolling R1 is awesome lol

I've actually won some FC fights fat rolling on my fat roll toon haha. In particular Cosplaying as Smough and killing someone wit the R2 is something I'll always remember haha.

Tolvo wrote:I've actually won some FC fights fat rolling on my fat roll toon haha. In particular Cosplaying as Smough and killing someone wit the R2 is something I'll always remember haha.

Better then the R2 is the plunge attack, goes off fast and has a long reach. Plus it knocks people down

I won fat rolling yesterday against one of the best Burg duelers. He was very pissed.

TehInfamousAmos wrote:Rant, I love the Greataxe xD - it is an amazing weapon - my FH is using it with SLB :L Just won a 4v1 with it HR BS can OHKO enemies that BS fish you etc; parries are a whole other story - then the roll attacks and r1s hit like 900 on full giants xD

yes! and the rolling attack somes out of nowhere too wich is pretty awesome, i gotta give the forest another try, first time i went there i got raped, the second time i brought my faith build with twop and 9 wog and it was just too easy and i liked that i got hatemail from gankers lol

WyrmHero wrote:Yeah, everyone with tiny weapons. At least we would see less Zweis and BKGAs, LOL!

Says who? My Havel build has haunted Anor for many months with his Lightning Zwei and all of his fast rolling glory.

http://tinyurl.com/7nxsowc

Honestly I do not have a build with the DWGR. I have had nearly 30 builds by now and I think I only used it 2 or 3 times right when the game first came out. It just looks too bloody stupid to use. it is an embarrassment.

Nice build!!!