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    Post by About8547Souls Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:43 pm

    I was approached by a friend of mine earlier who plays Dark Souls but is not on this forum. He mentioned to me that he has been counting armor sets he sees used online, and that the Elite Knight set is the one he sees the most. It isn't always the full set, but he encounters people using at least a piece or two very frequently. More-so than any other armor set pieces.

    I mentioned to him that the US version of the Elite Knight set has been nerfed, and that we never got the patch to make ours evened out with the version everyone else has.

    That is what someone told me anyway. So if I am wrong, please feel free to correct me.

    If I am correct however; I would like to ask if anyone believes I should attempt to petition that the US version is altered to be like what everyone else has.

    I know, the set isn't that big of a deal. That is what I said at first. "It's just one set of armor, and it's not like it would be upgraded much anyway. Why would anyone bother signing a petition for it?" Then my friend said it's simply for the fact that we realize we are being treated unfairly. I am inclined to agree. It matters not about the set itself so much as it is the fact that we (I'm assuming only US) are being denied equality.

    If I am wrong in this, or if I just feel absolutely no one will want to actually sign a petition I'll simply send them my own personal petition. I'm sure it will either be read and discarded, or perhaps not even read at all. But at least it will be better than doing nothing.
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    Post by DoughGuy Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:45 pm

    O hlord dont let serious see this. he already sent a petition abou tthis, had a lot of sigs too. And guess what? They did nothing, just ignored him. So to answer your question no we shouldnt petition, because it wont do anything.
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    Post by About8547Souls Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:46 pm

    The more we do it the better. And I don't plan to just have signatures from here. I'm more than prepared to actually go to every single site I have to and ask Dark Souls players to sign.
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    Post by DoughGuy Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:01 pm

    You'll have to ask Serious but I know he did a lot. Im not sure how off site he went though. But the fact is with the DLC coing out FROM and Namco have bigger things to worry about than a poise difference for a single set of armour.
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:10 pm

    im hoping for a fix for things like that with the dlc or shortly afterward as they should have time then.
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    Post by BLA1NE Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:50 pm

    There's no way From will issue a patch just for one armor set, especially this late in the game, because patches are costly for devs. It is strange that they didn't patch every region the same since we all play together online, though...

    Like twinkly said, our best chance is when the DLC is released, and maybe after. But as far as petitioning goes, I hate to be defeatist or pessimistic, but I think it'd be useless. Bringing the issue to their attention would be a good thing, but as long as they know, then there's nothing more we can do.

    (And while they're at it, I hope there's a lot of other things they patch besides just the Elite Knight Set!)
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    Post by Carphil Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:54 pm

    Now that this was mentioned, we could test this online at least.

    someone in US summon someone in Japan, both put on same gear with elite knight armor and hit each other with a greatsword. If the US version gets stunlocked in the first hit, unlike the Japan guy, this is a huge problem! I know they won't do anything for now, but the reason I don't use EK chest its because of 5 poise! and I know a lot of people think the same way. They could at least, fix it with the DLC patch
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    Post by DoughGuy Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:02 am

    Isnt it 34 poise vs 46? So both get stunlocked by greatswords. Where is Serious?
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    Post by Carphil Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:49 am

    DoughGuy wrote:Isnt it 34 poise vs 46? So both get stunlocked by greatswords. Where is Serious?

    yes but:

    71 poise - EK chest with 15 poise

    If EK chest had 20 poise, it would be 76 poise! See the difference?
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    Post by DoughGuy Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:52 am

    Ah i thougth you meant put on full elite knight armour, not elite armour with something else to boost the poise.
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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:54 am

    Petitions are for soft people.

    Hunger strikes are where it's at. winking
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    Post by Buggy Virus Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:42 am

    How many DkS petitions are there now?
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    Post by Serious_Much Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:48 am

    Honestly, this won't happen (yes dough thanks for your concern silly ) Just to say dough, it wasn't a petition, was an enquiry using a batch of surveyed results from this forum winking

    Anyways, back story, here is the thread which shows the email I sent to both FROM soft and Namco: https://soulswiki.forumotion.com/t2715-elite-knight-poise-query-thread?highlight=Elite+knight

    Those were the results of the survey (I know, crazy small), but I sent this letter through the enquiry route on FROM as told to by someone else, and Namco, and well.. I havent heard back from them and it's been 4 months. All I got was a auto reply saying my message was received..

    Anyway, I personally think that the poise will be readjusted in the DLC, or next patch if there is one (doubt it), that is if they bothered to read what I wrote :|

    You can try to petition, but honestly for one armour set I don't think they will bother. It's just not worth it for them.

    P.S. For those of you who don't know, there's a wiki linked to this forum, hows about using it lol! (but yes, the total poise is 34/46, however it's more the poise/weight ratio that causes imbalance between regions than it's poise power as a set)
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    Post by Forum Pirate Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:59 am

    Petitions should be used sparingly and reserved for big issues, to preserve the impact of such a petition should it become necessary.
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    Post by lextune Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:03 am

    BLA1NE wrote:(And while they're at it, I hope there's a lot of other things they patch besides just the Elite Knight Set!)

    [cough] Dark Wood Grain Ring [/cough]
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    Post by TheBigLebowski Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:10 am

    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:Petitions are for soft people.

    Hunger strikes are where it's at. winking

    Maybe you can give the petition to Sparkly then. Maybe she gives you a titanite slab for it? cheers
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    Post by mr.lucaslion1000 Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:27 am

    mines at 46 and i live in america
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    Post by sparkly-twinkly-lizard Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:35 am

    TheBigLebowski wrote:
    WhatDoesThePendantDo? wrote:Petitions are for soft people.

    Hunger strikes are where it's at. winking

    Maybe you can give the petition to Sparkly then. Maybe she gives you a titanite slab for it? cheers

    for a second there i thought you meant me...
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    Post by WhatDoesThePendantDo? Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:40 am

    Gender confused much, Sparkly? lol
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    Post by retro Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:15 am

    I don't think this an issue worth petitioning over, at least not on its own. If someone is interested enough to create a petition anyways, I would urge them to bundle it with other remaining issues, instead of being specific about one thing.

    -we have the return of the dragon-glitch
    -miracle resonance is still broken on PS3
    -there's in-game text that's still messed up (wrong item descriptions during loading screens, "returning to your wor")

    So there are things that negatively impact PvP in a significant way, an online function that doesn't work for nearly everyone on an entire system, and something as simple as text is still messed up and makes the final product look less polished than it should. The Elite Knight being different for different players is unfair, but if anything should be added to a list of problems, because it doesn't seem that worthy of singling out imo. happy
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    Post by Serious_Much Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:07 pm

    Has anyone downloaded an update which causes their elite knight poise to change?

    Me and my friend played his for first time in a couple of months and he downloaded and update on his xbox which changed poise of chest from 15 to 20.

    If this is the case I'd like to christen it the Serious patch silly
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    Post by Carphil Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:36 am

    Serious_Much wrote:Has anyone downloaded an update which causes their elite knight poise to change?

    How? :shock:
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    Post by DoughGuy Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:40 am

    I think think all xbox playres got patched up to the 46 poise but some PS3 players didnt.
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    Post by Serious_Much Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:31 pm

    I christen it the Serious Patch Praise the Sun

    Still haven't emailed me. Wankers.

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