PLEASE LOCK THIS

Good luck with the covenant, if you are interested, we can make an alliance between Deathlurkers and Soul Reavers.

- https://soulswiki.forumotion.com/t11880-soul-reaver-covenant#240925

You may need to check with Billy_Bayonet and his darkstalkers, and Viral_Ensign's Gravesworn, before making this covenant. Thank you!

So I suppose this is another one of the dishonorable covenants....

Not to sound disparaging....but people really should get involved with the established user covenants befire making their own.....

Yes lol... or at least make an original one.

Hmm....

are you serious?

People should simply read the current covs before they make their own,

billy_bayonet wrote:are you serious?

.....Much?

say his name another two times and......

i Dont wnat to be rude but you posted in the Ds thread a few days ago saying your the true darklord now you make this covenant which shows you knew abuot the DS i was told you had ripped text straight from my page, so i ask you again are you serious!

Sorry billy, my summon sign popped up. Seems the signals got crossed.

I say, let the guy try... we are all here for fun.
If people gives him credit, let it be.

FellipeMariano wrote:I say, let the guy try... we are all here for fun.
If people gives him credit, let it be.

We already have too many covs and too few people for them, we actually cant afford covs which are virtual rip offs of other bigger ones.

Again while we encourage new people to try user covenants..... most people who have done this already are pretty protective of thier niches if you will..... I mean now we have 3 Darkwraith covenants all doing the same thing.....

Personally I'm going to stick with using my Wraith for the Darkstalkers.

billy_bayonet wrote:i Dont wnat to be rude but you posted in the Ds thread a few days ago saying your the true darklord now you make this covenant which shows you knew abuot the DS i was told you had ripped text straight from my page, so i ask you again are you serious!

Bro, the whole dark lord stuff was for laughs, and I never intended to copy you. Think of it more as inspiration, if it makes it any better, I can simply join the Darkstalkers. I'm a +3 Darkwraith.

FellipeMariano wrote:I say, let the guy try... we are all here for fun.
If people gives him credit, let it be.

Look, both you and infinite are new to the user covenant thing. You're also ripping on existing covenants. Now if you had an original idea behind them like fighting with only light gear or hosting to start impromptu dead mob soccer matches, that would be much better. As it is right now You wanna have a DS with no level restriction, and You Infinite just want to glue the DS and GS together to make some freaky chimera covenant.

Both Fellipe and Infinite should try out being in a covenant first, than maybe you can consider it after a trial event, that way everything's shiny with everyone and you may find a new covenant idea.

Thats what I thought. And we dont want to run out new user covenants but most people who start them dont fully think them through, and with no prior experience ina actually being in a user cov to see how they work really does aid in maintaining a self sustaining membership.

I would actually suggest you guy do try out some time in the other user covs not only to see what makes them entertaining but also to get ideas for your own.

ALSO PEOPLE SERIOUSLY HAVE TO READ THE STICKIED LIST OF USER COVENANTS..... because compared to the Darkstalkers..... I fear you may be losing out on members or even spliting what could be a joint member base.

Seriously, I think you're all making a storm in a water glass.

Have you ever considered that, maybe... just maybe, Me or He wants to be in a Darkwraith covenant or something like that without the rules, SL restriction and the whole thing of the Darkstalkers?

What I'm seeing is just a bunch of people concerned about something that even get started. I don't see any real motive of being that agressive against those new covenants.

Other thing, a big unified covenant is not necessarly better than having small covenants with "related" themes. It add competition, diversity and can even help grow the community (have you ever thought that some people would not like to enter a user-covanant with already dozens of members and very strict rules?)

But, besides all that... I put myself in the position of decline my the whole covenant if the community doesn't aprove it. The unique point of the covenants are in make a competitive and active community, sharing events ans etc. If my covenant is not well accepted in it, I will probably end not participating in any of the "events", and by that the whole point of my covenant will fall to pieces.

Well, why not give an existing covenant a try? See if you can create one that goes in a completely new direction. Like hosting and fighting with no rules?

We have competition between the covs, but we dont have the player base to support a lot of covs. If we have a lot of similar smaller covs then each cov is less active. In the end it all comes down to our player base, which is not very large and is not growing very much.
Also whats the point of being in a cov with no restrictions or rules? (of which the DS has so few already). Thats part of being in a cov (imo), doing something different to change your normal pvp/co-op experience.

DoughGuy wrote:We have competition between the covs, but we dont have the player base to support a lot of covs. If we have a lot of similar smaller covs then each cov is less active. In the end it all comes down to our player base, which is not very large and is not growing very much.
Also whats the point of being in a cov with no restrictions or rules? (of which the DS has so few already). Thats part of being in a cov (imo), doing something different to change your normal pvp/co-op experience.

This

The DS have one rule, SL55 max thats it, and trust me if you know what your doing you can make a 55 build that can trouble 120+ players

SL 55 is super boring though, only elemental builds there. :/